Chelsea to ban fans for anti Semitic language

[nairn hibee]

Bbc say police are working with Chelsea and Watford after anti Semitic chants.if the police can investigate that. why can't they do the same with the Rangers ,it's got to be in a far larger scale.cant ever see it tho,but why not.have rangers ever banned anyone for bigotry

[jabis]

You come from Nairn, I come from Finechty,we don't count.

[The Spaceman]

There’s a whole thread on Follow Follow just now about the sectarian language (H*n) used by Hibs fans on Saturday and how it should be investigated. Can’t make it up.

[Dinkydoo]

Because as a country, bigotry is our dirty little secret.

Nobody wants to deal with it and the bigots combined with those who'd rather bury their head in the sand by calling it out as a 'Scottish football' problem, in a bid to deflect attention and responsibility away from their own clubs, probably out-number those who actually would like to see us as a nation tackle the problem.

Call me cynical but I'm of the opinion that we're pissing in the wind with this one. The only approach might be to hope that in a modern society these kind of views eventually die out with the people peddling them. Like racism, homophobia et al

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[jacomo]

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Because as a country, bigotry is our dirty little secret.

Nobody wants to deal with it and the bigots combined with those who'd rather bury their head in the sand by calling it out as a 'Scottish football' problem, in a bid to deflect attention and responsibility away from their own clubs, probably out-number those who actually would like to see us as a nation tackle the problem.

Call me cynical but I'm of the opinion that we're pissing in the wind with this one. The only approach might be to hope that in a modern society these kind of views eventually die out with the people peddling them. Like racism, homophobia et al

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Hoping something just dies out doesn’t work.

I think you need some kind of catalyst for change, a bit like Weinstein kickstarting the #MeToo movement.

[nairn hibee]

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You come from Nairn, I come from Finechty,we don't count.

As the county have pumped Buckie twice this season I should count a wee bit more.

[Deansy]

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Because as a country, bigotry is our dirty little secret.

Nobody wants to deal with it and the bigots combined with those who'd rather bury their head in the sand by calling it out as a 'Scottish football' problem, in a bid to deflect attention and responsibility away from their own clubs, probably out-number those who actually would like to see us as a nation tackle the problem.

Call me cynical but I'm of the opinion that we're pissing in the wind with this one. The only approach might be to hope that in a modern society these kind of views eventually die out with the people peddling them. Like racism, homophobia et al

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Can't see the Hun letting bigoted-sectarianism fade away as it's a major part of their recruitment !

[HoboHarry]

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You come from Nairn, I come from Finechty,we don't count.

Years ago i took my american wife through "Finechty"and when we stopped at a tea room she asked me what language I was talking in with the waitress. 😂

[AgentDaleCooper]

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Bbc say police are working with Chelsea and Watford after anti Semitic chants.if the police can investigate that. why can't they do the same with the Rangers ,it's got to be in a far larger scale.cant ever see it tho,but why not.have rangers ever banned anyone for bigotry

it's also not just rangers - celtic were blasting out IRA songs last time they were at easter road. they are absolutely as bad as each other, we just don't get the worst of it from celtic because they see us as their 'wee cousins' or something irritating like that. choobs, the lot of them.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

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it's also not just rangers - celtic were blasting out IRA songs last time they were at easter road. they are absolutely as bad as each other, we just don't get the worst of it from celtic because they see us as their 'wee cousins' or something irritating like that. choobs, the lot of them.

You've not read the script, you can't post that on here. ;-)

[SirDavidsNapper]

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There’s a whole thread on Follow Follow just now about the sectarian language (H*n) used by Hibs fans on Saturday and how it should be investigated. Can’t make it up.

Wow. Just wow

[matty_f]

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You've not read the script, you can't post that on here. ;-)

Wow, it looks like he has posted it on here.

[WeeRussell]

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There’s a whole thread on Follow Follow just now about the sectarian language (H*n) used by Hibs fans on Saturday and how it should be investigated. Can’t make it up.

I just tried to go and have a look at this and discovered that 'follow follow' is blocked at my work.... I quite like that

[Spike Mandela]

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Bbc say police are working with Chelsea and Watford after anti Semitic chants.if the police can investigate that. why can't they do the same with the Rangers ,it's got to be in a far larger scale.cant ever see it tho,but why not.have rangers ever banned anyone for bigotry

I was at a Chelsea v Sunderland game in ‘the shed’ in 2012 and the anti Semitic stuff was shocking. Even worse, when an Israeli player came on for Sunderland( Ex Liverpool, name escapes me) the abuse went up several notches. Not something I have ever heard in a football ground before and I couldn’t believe my ears.

[SouthMoroccoStu]

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There’s a whole thread on Follow Follow just now about the sectarian language (H*n) used by Hibs fans on Saturday and how it should be investigated. Can’t make it up.

Stupid Huns

[Hibee87]

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I just tried to go and have a look at this and discovered that 'follow follow' is blocked at my work.... I quite like that

Someone in my work before I started got Kickback blocked, but not .net

[surreyhibbie]

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Someone in my work before I started got Kickback blocked, but not .net

When I was responsible for Internet access in my job, I did the same. monitored it for a while but nobody attempted to access Kickback,

The only person accessing this site was me!

Mind you, the Company was(is) based in London...

[Keith_M]

I think the police and clubs are doing the right thing. Anti-semitism is competely unnaceptable.


Now, if only the Scottish Police, Clubs and Football Authorities had the same determination to eradicate Sectarianism, Bigotry and Terrorist Worshipping in Scotland, I'd be even happier.

[Haymaker]

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I was at a Chelsea v Sunderland game in ‘the shed’ in 2012 and the anti Semitic stuff was shocking. Even worse, when an Israeli player came on for Sunderland( Ex Liverpool, name escapes me) the abuse went up several notches. Not something I have ever heard in a football ground before and I couldn’t believe my ears.

Chelsea fans are horrible people. The "real" ones that is, not the ones they've had since 2003.

[Frazerbob]

Silverlining to the whole Stokes debacle is that the dreadful song about his old man will surely never be aired again.

[Dashing Bob S]

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Chelsea fans are horrible people. The "real" ones that is, not the ones they've had since 2003.

My uncle is a Chelsea fan. Always supported them as they are his local team in West London. You couldn’t hope to meet a nicer chap. Ran marathons for Save The Children and the RSPCA. Worked for a national charity that rescued abandoned pets. He’s getting on a bit now but still enjoys taking his now grown up grandchildren to Stamford Bridge and isn’t the slightest bit upset that of them inclines towards Arsenal.

[SouthMoroccoStu]

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Silverlining to the whole Stokes debacle is that the dreadful song about his old man will surely never be aired again.

Totally agree

Didn't hear many singing it but was still cringe worthy

On par with the Hearts' Gorgie Billy Boys

[Haymaker]

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My uncle is a Chelsea fan. Always supported them as they are his local team in West London. You couldn’t hope to meet a nicer chap. Ran marathons for Save The Children and the RSPCA. Worked for a national charity that rescued abandoned pets. He’s getting on a bit now but still enjoys taking his now grown up grandchildren to Stamford Bridge and isn’t the slightest bit upset that of them inclines towards Arsenal.

Fair enough Bob but the ones I know - and that's a lot - are not the nicest when you scratch the surface. Very hard-core right wing, racist and anti Semitic. Huge loyalists that follow the "loyalist trinity".

[Iggy Pope]

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Fair enough Bob but the ones I know - and that's a lot - are not the nicest when you scratch the surface. Very hard-core right wing, racist and anti Semitic. Huge loyalists that follow the "loyalist trinity".

The what? Chelsea, Linfield, Rangers by any chance?

Edit: Hamburg would make an unholy trinity +1....

[murray26]

Is calling Sevco fans “Huns” sectarian..? I’ve never thought so.. it sounds more like a justification from them to continue there bigoted bile.. surely nobody’s buying into this nonsense..

[hibsbollah]

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Is calling Sevco fans “Huns” sectarian..? I’ve never thought so.. it sounds more like a justification from them to continue there bigoted bile.. surely nobody’s buying into this nonsense..

This debate is circular, but it is the case that 'hun' is used in Ulster as a derogatory term for 'prods'. Thats a fact.

Personally I call the Rangers 'huns' as well, so i suppose I need to look at my own behaviour, but I use it to mean 'nutcase rangers supporters'; the religion thing doesn't come into it for me personally. Its not really comparable to them singing about up to knees in blood, derry walls or the sash, or their refusal to sign catholic players for large parts of their (previous) history. The huns will use our use of the term as an excuse for their favourite activity, 'whataboutery' of course, and justify their continued inaction to deal with their own shameful position as the worlds most prejudiced, sectarian and bigoted club. (Yes even more than Zagreb, Zenit.)

[Iggy Pope]

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Is calling Sevco fans “Huns” sectarian..? I’ve never thought so.. it sounds more like a justification from them to continue there bigoted bile.. surely nobody’s buying into this nonsense..

Sectarianism aside, trust me. To be called a fenian is to be respected as a poet, artist, warrior, libertarian and extraordinary lover. These ******ed Huns should be acknowledged for recognising this if nothing else.

[Aim Here]

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This debate is circular, but it is the case that 'hun' is used in Ulster as a derogatory term for 'prods'. Thats a fact.

That's the sensible reason for deciding that 'hun' is sectarian; though I've never heard it used in Scotland that way. Is the Irish usage as a slur a new thing?

I've also seen complaints about the modified terms 'Diet huns' or 'Huns without the bus fare'. The argument is that because the modified terms refer to fans of teams other than Rangers, it must be because they're protestant (and not because they're aping the bigotry of a large chunk of the Rangers support or copying the worst parts of the Rangers songbook), and is therefore a sectarian slur. Either that or they think that singing ***** like 'The Billy Boys' is inherently part of protestantness and therefore criticizing it is bigotry. It's a pretty thin argument either way.

[Scouse Hibee]

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I was at a Chelsea v Sunderland game in ‘the shed’ in 2012 and the anti Semitic stuff was shocking. Even worse, when an Israeli player came on for Sunderland( Ex Liverpool, name escapes me) the abuse went up several notches. Not something I have ever heard in a football ground before and I couldn’t believe my ears.

Yossi Benayoun?

[Is It On....]

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Bbc say police are working with Chelsea and Watford after anti Semitic chants.if the police can investigate that. why can't they do the same with the Rangers ,it's got to be in a far larger scale.cant ever see it tho,but why not.have rangers ever banned anyone for bigotry

Chelsea and West Ham are the worst for this when they play Spurs. The worst one isn't even a "chant" and it's been going on for years and nothing has really been done about it [yet].