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    Man fined for helping a homeless man

    This surely should be appealed.

    A man who pulled in to a bus stop on Christmas Day to help a homeless man was fined by a council.

    Lee Williamson, of Evington, Leicester, said he stopped to give a homeless man a blanket, hat, gloves, scarf, food, and chat to him.

    He later received a £70 fine, despite there being no buses on 25 December.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-42961418

    Ridiculous decision. Is there not something social media can do to force the council to change their mind.


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    Quote Originally Posted by theonlywayisup View Post
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    This surely should be appealed.

    A man who pulled in to a bus stop on Christmas Day to help a homeless man was fined by a council.

    Lee Williamson, of Evington, Leicester, said he stopped to give a homeless man a blanket, hat, gloves, scarf, food, and chat to him.

    He later received a £70 fine, despite there being no buses on 25 December.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-42961418

    Ridiculous decision. Is there not something social media can do to force the council to change their mind.
    If this report is acurate and not another twisted headline scoop, then I really despair for mankind.
    This is what you get when you put the law and jobsworths together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theonlywayisup View Post
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    This surely should be appealed.

    A man who pulled in to a bus stop on Christmas Day to help a homeless man was fined by a council.

    Lee Williamson, of Evington, Leicester, said he stopped to give a homeless man a blanket, hat, gloves, scarf, food, and chat to him.

    He later received a £70 fine, despite there being no buses on 25 December.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-42961418

    Ridiculous decision. Is there not something social media can do to force the council to change their mind.
    To be fair is it not likely to have been a bus lane camera thatís caught him? And then itíll be an automated fine based on the camera catching him in the lane?

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    My reading of the story was that he stopped in a potentially dangerous road position when there was alternative parking "metres away" (according to the Council).

    It also said a similar situation had led to the death of a cyclist in 2016.

    As altruistic as his motives may have been, it's still a stupid and dangerous thing to do.

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    I know the guy, Lee can only be described as a gentle giant. He runs a charity I like to help called "Once we were Soldiers". They try and help ex soldiers off the streets and if that's not possible they try and at least equip them properly for life on the street. Knowing Lee there's no way he could have drove past this guy without seeing he was ok. I've heard a local businessman has paid the fine for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg View Post
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    I know the guy, Lee can only be described as a gentle giant. He runs a charity I like to help called "Once we were Soldiers". They try and help ex soldiers off the streets and if that's not possible they try and at least equip them properly for life on the street. Knowing Lee there's no way he could have drove past this guy without seeing he was ok. I've heard a local businessman has paid the fine for him.
    That's even worse. Do you mean to say the local authority hasn't rescinded the fine having found out the true story? What a shower of Shylocks. Absolutely mindboggling. We live in a heartless (authoritative) society.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snooky View Post
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    That's even worse. Do you mean to say the local authority hasn't recinded the fine having found out the true story? What a shower of Shylocks. Absolutely mindboggling. We live in a heartless (authoritative) society.
    The same society that has helped put these guys on the street that now punishes people for trying to help them

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    Overturned by the mayor

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-42973471

    Common sense decision

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    Quote Originally Posted by theonlywayisup View Post
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    Overturned by the mayor

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-42973471

    Common sense decision

    Now, Sir Peter has said he will help overturn the fine, having first stated that "legal parking" had been available nearby.
    He told BBC Radio Leicester: "You can take rules to a crazy extreme.
    "We should do everything we can to make absolutely certain that Lee is not punished for doing this good deed and his parking fine is cancelled."


    The man's a wizard. No wonder he's the mayor.
    Pity someone down the chain (no pun intended) didn't have at least one brain cell tuned into common sense mode.

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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-42972197

    Oh dear. The Walking Dead are at it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Future17 View Post
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    My reading of the story was that he stopped in a potentially dangerous road position when there was alternative parking "metres away" (according to the Council).

    It also said a similar situation had led to the death of a cyclist in 2016.

    As altruistic as his motives may have been, it's still a stupid and dangerous thing to do.

    Here's the traffic cam picture. It was Christmas day. There were no buses running.



    You're right. Playing with people's lives, so he was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snooky View Post
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    Now, Sir Peter has said he will help overturn the fine, having first stated that "legal parking" had been available nearby.
    He told BBC Radio Leicester: "You can take rules to a crazy extreme.
    "We should do everything we can to make absolutely certain that Lee is not punished for doing this good deed and his parking fine is cancelled."


    The man's a wizard. No wonder he's the mayor.
    Pity someone down the chain (no pun intended) didn't have at least one brain cell tuned into common sense mode.

    Naw. Sir Peter originally backed the fine 100%.

    Then he realised how doing so totally made him look a pompous self-righteous idiot.

    So he backtracked and 'changed' what passes for his mind.

    'Course, if you're King Richard III you can park anywhere you like for as long as you like in Leicester.

    Five hundred years or so.

    But then no doubt he had a 'disabled' permit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doddie View Post
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    Here's the traffic cam picture. It was Christmas day. There were no buses running.



    You're right. Playing with people's lives, so he was.
    "Shocking photograph. Where's the so-called homeless man?
    Just another conman trying to avoid parking charges."
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    Sigh....

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-42972197

    And this time there's a human involved at the beginning!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Alf View Post
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    Sigh....

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-42972197

    And this time there's a human involved at the beginning!

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    See post #10.
    I sometimes wonder if failing an IQ test is mandatory for getting a job as a parking warden.
    (Apologies to the good wardens out there - I know there are some ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by snooky View Post
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    See post #10.
    I sometimes wonder if failing an IQ test is mandatory for getting a job as a parking warden.
    (Apologies to the good wardens out there - I know there are some ).
    Ah cheers.. On phone so didn't notice...

    Hey!... Maybe the traffic warden could use the same excuse!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Alf View Post
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    Ah cheers.. On phone so didn't notice...

    Hey!... Maybe the traffic warden could use the same excuse!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Alf View Post
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    Ah cheers.. On phone so didn't notice...

    Hey!... Maybe the traffic warden could use the same excuse!

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    I used to know a number of Edinburgh's TW's, and a fine bunch of chaps they were.

    They had a code for situations like the two we're discussing - if the bosses were hunting them to do a nasty job, like "just pop into George Street and see to any illegally-parked vehicles you find" (half a mile of George Street and usually ten minutes before lousing time), it was "Brer Rabbit".

    If they were on the beat and they turned into a street that was nose-to-tale with offenders (someone was bound to spot you before you got done) it was "Felix the Cat".

    In trouble, Brer Rabbit laid low and said nuffin; Felix just kept on walking.

    In both these cases, Felix would have been their exemplar. Don't stop. Don't look. Keep on walking.

    Thing is, the soldier was done by the camera - some wee electronics geek sitting in a warm cosy office just punching a button and out comes the FPT. Not a warden job at all.

    (Mr Magoo was handy as well - blind as a bat, never saw a thing. )
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    Quote Originally Posted by theonlywayisup View Post
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    Overturned by the mayor

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-42973471

    Common sense decision
    good

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