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**HoboHarry** · 02-02-2018 02:18 AM

Originally Posted by NAE NOOKIE

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Actually that's true. But that's no reason not to think the guy is a complete bellend.

If he is trying to create a pissing contest between his 16 year old prodigy and Scott Brown there can only be one of two outcomes ..... either Brown will absolutely level him the next time the two clubs meet, possibly resulting in a serious injury to a young kid out of his league when it comes to the experienced Brown. Or worse, he will wind Cochrane up so much that he inflicts a serious, possibly career ending, injury on Brown or another Celtic player, or even worse a Hibs player.

Lets not forget this is a kid who in less than half a season of first team football has already been sent off once and could well have inflicted a serious injury on John McGinn. Whether it was an accident or not Cochrane is now sidelined by injury after getting physical with the aforementioned Brown. Levin is playing with fire here and the result could end in tragedy for a kid who should have a bright future if he is handled properly. In my opinion Levin is feeding his own ego and typically it wont be him who pays the price.

I'm all for a bit of trash talk between managers, its all part of the games rich tapestry. But when you do it you have to think of the consequences .. like it or not Levin's last 3 comments have had the following consequences:

His 'natural order' comment whether it was supposed to be funny or not has enraged not only our fans, but also our backroom staff and players which is going to make the next derby a bad tempered hate fest both on and off the park.

His comment about wishing their winner in the last derby hadn't crossed the line came back to bite him big time just a week later, giving everybody a good laugh at his expense.

Now his comment about Brown and his alleged encouragement of Cochrane to mix it with him next time the clubs meet .... how is that not a possible recipe for disaster as I outlined above?

The man is a classless idiot, which it has to be said is a good fit for a club with ..... no remorse ..... no humility .... and a more inflated sense of its own importance than practically any other club in the UK, never mind Scotland.

I would be willing to bet that outside of the Ugly Sisters Hearts are the most unpopular club in Scotland .... not because they are unbeatable on the park, which they certainly are not, but because of their unjustified arrogance and the way they look down their noses at the rest, Budge's comments about ditching the clubs she sees as 'inferior' from the league system being a case in point.

I really don't think you are giving Scott Brown enough credit here. Cast your mind back to all the press given to Joey Barton and how he was going to dominate Scott Brown. Barton ended up so deep in Brown's back pocket that he was made to look foolish. Scott Brown may be aggressive but he can play too......

**mjhibby** · 02-02-2018 03:40 AM

Originally Posted by NAE NOOKIE

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Actually that's true. But that's no reason not to think the guy is a complete bellend.

If he is trying to create a pissing contest between his 16 year old prodigy and Scott Brown there can only be one of two outcomes ..... either Brown will absolutely level him the next time the two clubs meet, possibly resulting in a serious injury to a young kid out of his league when it comes to the experienced Brown. Or worse, he will wind Cochrane up so much that he inflicts a serious, possibly career ending, injury on Brown or another Celtic player, or even worse a Hibs player.

Lets not forget this is a kid who in less than half a season of first team football has already been sent off once and could well have inflicted a serious injury on John McGinn. Whether it was an accident or not Cochrane is now sidelined by injury after getting physical with the aforementioned Brown. Levin is playing with fire here and the result could end in tragedy for a kid who should have a bright future if he is handled properly. In my opinion Levin is feeding his own ego and typically it wont be him who pays the price.

I'm all for a bit of trash talk between managers, its all part of the games rich tapestry. But when you do it you have to think of the consequences .. like it or not Levin's last 3 comments have had the following consequences:

His 'natural order' comment whether it was supposed to be funny or not has enraged not only our fans, but also our backroom staff and players which is going to make the next derby a bad tempered hate fest both on and off the park.

His comment about wishing their winner in the last derby hadn't crossed the line came back to bite him big time just a week later, giving everybody a good laugh at his expense.

Now his comment about Brown and his alleged encouragement of Cochrane to mix it with him next time the clubs meet .... how is that not a possible recipe for disaster as I outlined above?

The man is a classless idiot, which it has to be said is a good fit for a club with ..... no remorse ..... no humility .... and a more inflated sense of its own importance than practically any other club in the UK, never mind Scotland.

I would be willing to bet that outside of the Ugly Sisters Hearts are the most unpopular club in Scotland .... not because they are unbeatable on the park, which they certainly are not, but because of their unjustified arrogance and the way they look down their noses at the rest, Budge's comments about ditching the clubs she sees as 'inferior' from the league system being a case in point.

He's desperately trying to get attention as we keep racking up points and solidify our position in the league. He is unable to make any point that contributes anything positive to Scottish football and as you say the consequences of his nonsense could be huge. Compare that with what Rodgers said re maybe he shouldn't have played him against celtic. He's ruining a decent prospect and it's no coincidence that the likes of walker, Nicholson and Patterson couldn't wait to get away from the club once he was sticking his neck into team matters. Brown does get away with it a lot but every team could do with his type of player bossing the midfield. As Stephen Thompson says sjm gets booted regularly but just gets up and gets on with it.
He has certainly made Fri the 9th March a potentially explosive game with his comments and hopefully fans and players will keep the head and concentrate on winning the game.

**SirDavidsNapper** · 02-02-2018 05:23 AM

Levein is an absolute clown. The "bossed it" comment will have made a 16 year old laddie a target for many players now especially the Celtic and Scotland captain, the most decorated and experienced player in the country. Why put that pressure on a youngster? Idiot comment as per

**NAE NOOKIE** · 02-02-2018 05:46 AM

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I really don't think you are giving Scott Brown enough credit here. Cast your mind back to all the press given to Joey Barton and how he was going to dominate Scott Brown. Barton ended up so deep in Brown's back pocket that he was made to look foolish. Scott Brown may be aggressive but he can play too......

I'm well aware that Brown isn't just a clogger mate and to be honest I don't know where you got the idea that I thought he was. But he does have a mean streak and if he thinks Cochrane or anybody else is taking the piss he will react.

I would say of the two outcomes I could see as a result of Levin's comments the one where Cochrane seriously injures Brown or another player is far more likely ... for all his reputation as a 'hard' player Brown tends to know what he's doing and I cant remember him ever seriously injuring anybody. Cochrane on the other hand, like any young player, makes up for his lack of experience with enthusiasm and adrenalin, a bad combination in high pressure games like a clash with the Uglies or a derby match .... especially when his manager far from encouraging control seems to be intent on fanning the flames of a Cochrane v Brown physical rivalry.

***JimBHibees*** · 02-02-2018 06:28 AM

Even more incredible than the joke statements by the best Scotland manager ever was that there was absolutely nothing in that tackle at all. He clearly has issues.

***Heisenberg*** · 02-02-2018 06:45 AM

Saying Cochrane will sort out Scott Brown in the next meeting is a stupid thing to say in the press. Brown is going to be more motivated than ever to stick the wee kid back in his place. Potter is an idiot.

***greenlex*** · 02-02-2018 06:47 AM

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Even more incredible than the joke statements by the best Scotland manager ever was that there was absolutely nothing in that tackle at all. He clearly has issues.

Correct. It’s a good job Brown wasn’t trying to hurt him. The laddie will be ****ting himself the next time they meet. Levien is an arse.

***One Day Soon*** · 02-02-2018 07:01 AM

Scott is a very, very good football player. If he'd moved to the English Premiership just how good he is would probably have been a lot more evident.

He is a very physical player, partly because he is extremely fit, competes 100% without holding back and and looks after himself properly and always has done since his school days.This is a lad who knew all the way back then that football was his one shot at making it and he put everything into it with incredible focus. What he isn't is a hatchet man.

Levein is trying to play games with this stuff, largely I think with his own support. It's not like starting this controversy is going to unsettle Scott and give Hearts a better chance of winning the League - they just aren't serious competition for Celtc.

This is much more about the fact that Hearts are gash, they're not going to get massively better anytime soon (their window was a bit tumbleweedy), they're back at the wee stadium but still playing eyebleeding football and not making headway with us in the league, they've a tough run of matches ahead and are likely to drop points and their next game against us is at ER. This Scott Brown stuff is classic deflection and as someone else posted elsewhere this is about feeding a siege mentality so that as they fail to clear a succession of hurdles Levein can point to the external injustices and say 'they're all against us'.

I predict seriously unhappy Yam Fud hordes in four weeks time.

***JimBHibees*** · 02-02-2018 07:09 AM

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Saying Cochrane will sort out Scott Brown in the next meeting is a stupid thing to say in the press. Brown is going to be more motivated than ever to stick the wee kid back in his place. Potter is an idiot.

Just underlined Rodgers was correct in saying he was putting too much pressure on poor wee Harry. Absolutely moronic by Levein.

***JimBHibees*** · 02-02-2018 07:11 AM

Originally Posted by One Day Soon

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Scott is a very, very good football player. If he'd moved to the English Premiership just how good he is would probably have been a lot more evident.

He is a very physical player, partly because he is extremely fit, competes 100% without holding back and and looks after himself properly and always has done since his school days.This is a lad who knew all the way back then that football was his one shot at making it and he put everything into it with incredible focus. What he isn't is a hatchet man.

Levein is trying to play games with this stuff, largely I think with his own support. It's not like starting this controversy is going to unsettle Scott and give Hearts a better chance of winning the League - they just aren't serious competition for Celtc.

This is much more about the fact that Hearts are gash, they're not going to get massively better anytime soon (their window was a bit tumbleweedy), they're back at the wee stadium but still playing eyebleeding football and not making headway with us in the league, they've a tough run of matches ahead and are likely to drop points and their next game against us is at ER. This Scott Brown stuff is classic deflection and as someone else posted elsewhere this is about feeding a siege mentality so that as they fail to clear a succession of hurdles Levein can point to the external injustices and say 'they're all against us'.

I predict seriously unhappy Yam Fud hordes in four weeks time.

Agree especially if St Johnstone knock them out the cup.

**eastcoasthibby** · 02-02-2018 07:27 AM

Same media school as the phanny Houston both spout the same twisted and totally one sided crap about there teams ..!

**Dashing Bob S** · 02-02-2018 10:41 AM

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Actually that's true. But that's no reason not to think the guy is a complete bellend.

If he is trying to create a pissing contest between his 16 year old prodigy and Scott Brown there can only be one of two outcomes ..... either Brown will absolutely level him the next time the two clubs meet, possibly resulting in a serious injury to a young kid out of his league when it comes to the experienced Brown. Or worse, he will wind Cochrane up so much that he inflicts a serious, possibly career ending, injury on Brown or another Celtic player, or even worse a Hibs player.

Lets not forget this is a kid who in less than half a season of first team football has already been sent off once and could well have inflicted a serious injury on John McGinn. Whether it was an accident or not Cochrane is now sidelined by injury after getting physical with the aforementioned Brown. Levin is playing with fire here and the result could end in tragedy for a kid who should have a bright future if he is handled properly. In my opinion Levin is feeding his own ego and typically it wont be him who pays the price.

I'm all for a bit of trash talk between managers, its all part of the games rich tapestry. But when you do it you have to think of the consequences .. like it or not Levin's last 3 comments have had the following consequences:

His 'natural order' comment whether it was supposed to be funny or not has enraged not only our fans, but also our backroom staff and players which is going to make the next derby a bad tempered hate fest both on and off the park.

His comment about wishing their winner in the last derby hadn't crossed the line came back to bite him big time just a week later, giving everybody a good laugh at his expense.

Now his comment about Brown and his alleged encouragement of Cochrane to mix it with him next time the clubs meet .... how is that not a possible recipe for disaster as I outlined above?

The man is a classless idiot, which it has to be said is a good fit for a club with ..... no remorse ..... no humility .... and a more inflated sense of its own importance than practically any other club in the UK, never mind Scotland.

I would be willing to bet that outside of the Ugly Sisters Hearts are the most unpopular club in Scotland .... not because they are unbeatable on the park, which they certainly are not, but because of their unjustified arrogance and the way they look down their noses at the rest, Budge's comments about ditching the clubs she sees as 'inferior' from the league system being a case in point.

On reflection, you make interesting points, young Jedi, and victory is yours. Okay, he’s a ****. Never let it be said that I was not gracious in defeat.

**Crazyhorse** · 02-02-2018 11:03 AM

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Levein now saying Cochrane told him he'll sort Brown out in the next game... Levein's response? "You go son!"

Now if that's not endangering his 16 year old prodigy I don't know what is.

I feel a bit sorry for Cochrane. He's a 16 year old kid who is being used by a manager who clearly doesn't give a toss about his welfare.

***JimBHibees*** · 02-02-2018 11:12 AM

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I feel a bit sorry for Cochrane. He's a 16 year old kid who is being used by a manager who clearly doesn't give a toss about his welfare.

Agree most good managers would try and take the pressure off their young players this moron is adding to it hugely with his comments and also encouraging him to engage in foul play. Can see Cochrane getting a really bad injury quite soon given the perverse development approach Levein appears to adopt.

***JimBHibees*** · 02-02-2018 11:13 AM

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I feel a bit sorry for Cochrane. He's a 16 year old kid who is being used by a manager who clearly doesn't give a toss about his welfare.

Absolutely. Pandering to the yam fans lowest denominator with the siege mentality guff.

**hibsbollah** · 02-02-2018 11:29 AM

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I feel a bit sorry for Cochrane. He's a 16 year old kid who is being used by a manager who clearly doesn't give a toss about his welfare.

True. And although I don't see much of Hertz I think he's one of their best players, with Berra doing the simple things well behind him and Lafferty being a bell end but who keeps scoring goals in front of him, they have the potential of having that clichéd 'strong spine'. Not sure the coaching is up to scratch...

***Seveno*** · 02-02-2018 12:59 PM

Personally, I think Levein is being clever here. He is trying to get as much publicity for Cochrane as possible in the hope that they can cash in on him at the end of the season.

They need the money to finish off the finest stand in world football.

**Springbank** · 02-02-2018 01:12 PM

It would not surprise me if Hearts failed to make the top 6 and this week turned out to be the final Celtic v Hearts game of the season.

Go check the table.

We are comfortably 7 points ahead of Hearts.

But hearts are closer to 6th than they are to us in 4th. And 6th placed motherwell have a game in hand on the jambos.

Head down to 7th and 8th place and you find both Killie and St Johnstone have 2 games in hand on the jambos.

So, could be that Cochrane never plays against Brown again...

***Jack Hackett*** · 02-02-2018 01:17 PM

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It would not surprise me if Hearts failed to make the top 6 and this week turned out to be the final Celtic v Hearts game of the season.

Go check the table.

We are comfortably 7 points ahead of Hearts.

But hearts are closer to 6th than they are to us in 4th. And 6th placed motherwell have a game in hand on the jambos.

Head down to 7th and 8th place and you find both Killie and St Johnstone have 2 games in hand on the jambos.

So, could be that Cochrane never plays against Brown again...

It's actually 3 games in hand

**Aim Here** · 02-02-2018 01:21 PM

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It would not surprise me if Hearts failed to make the top 6 and this week turned out to be the final Celtic v Hearts game of the season.

Go check the table.

We are comfortably 7 points ahead of Hearts.

But hearts are closer to 6th than they are to us in 4th. And 6th placed motherwell have a game in hand on the jambos.

Head down to 7th and 8th place and you find both Killie and St Johnstone have 2 games in hand on the jambos.

So, could be that Cochrane never plays against Brown again...

Then again, both teams are still in the cup, so they could bump into each other there.

**Springbank** · 02-02-2018 01:23 PM

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It's actually 3 games in hand

Spot on - depending on how all the games in hand go, it wouldn't be a surprise to see hearts within touching distance of the bottom 6 going into the last fixtures before the split (and we could maybe help them on their way on 9 March

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***Not In The Know*** · 02-02-2018 01:36 PM

Leveins self importance is at full setting just now.

Ideally I hope we can put even more distance between us and them in the league.

***oldbutdim*** · 02-02-2018 02:06 PM

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Scott ......................... partly because he is extremely fit, competes 100% without holding back and and looks after himself properly and always has done since his school days.This is a lad who knew all the way back then that football was his one shot at making it and he put everything into it with incredible focus..............

**ancient hibee** · 02-02-2018 02:09 PM

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Levein is an absolute clown. The "bossed it" comment will have made a 16 year old laddie a target for many players now especially the Celtic and Scotland captain, the most decorated and experienced player in the country. Why put that pressure on a youngster? Idiot comment as per

Nothing to do with this thread.Has the updating of your Predictor League been given up for good?

**The Green Goblin** · 02-02-2018 02:15 PM

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Losing the plot could be one explanation, but I suspect he's got psychological personality problems.Still mentally affected with what happened in '86,his failure as Scotland manager, his pathological hatred of Hibs, his medals count, and his delusional sense superiority where football is concerned in Edinburgh.There's enough material to write a new thesis on behavioral patterns of the failed football manager.

This is my view of it too.

Plus, he's got strange soulless vacant, dead eyes, like a shark.

***Craig_HFC*** · 02-02-2018 03:00 PM

**1van Sprou7e** · 02-02-2018 03:51 PM

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Where is this from?

***PeeKay*** · 02-02-2018 03:53 PM

After the 0-0 game at Tynie, when Lennon complained on Hibs TV that Hertz had kicked us off the park, Levein said he "would not go “running to his mummy” over every infringement. I don't understand why he has not been reminded about this in the media coverage of his comments about Scott Brown.