I know there has been a bit of an overreaction from last Sunday on here, but it has prompted a discussion about where we are right now.
I’d be happy finishing fourth and taking stock at the end of the season, but there is a feeling of stagnation from some and rumours about Lennon and the Scotland job.
Interested to hear what people think about a refresh either now or at the end of the season (my preference).
How would you view us taking £3m for McGinn if we could get it, getting some compensation from the SFA from Lennon, moving on Stokes, Dave, a couple of others and building from there?
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28-01-2018 11:18 AM #1
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28-01-2018 11:38 AM #3
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If we can salvage this season by getting a European place (realistically that's finishing fourth and hoping that one of Celtic, Aberdeen or Rangers win the cup), I'd be very happy. Fourth without Europe would sting a little but would still be a good first season back. The cup defeat definitely takes the shine off it, and I just hope we don't go into a bit of a tailspin and end up slipping down to 6th or, god forbid, the bottom half. I think we've done enough in the first half of the season to avoid that scenario happening though.
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28-01-2018 11:54 AM #4
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£3 million for McGinn would be good business for the club, not sure how much would be reinvested into the team.
moving on stokes & big Dave would seem sensible as neither are anywhere near getting a game.
there is no way I would be letting the manager go anywhere, we are 4th in the league and in with a good shout of European football
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29-01-2018 05:55 AM #5
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What do you mean 'salvage'? This season is going pretty well fpr a promoted team, leavue cup semis, and out after a tight derby in our third year in a row of very tough cup draws.
Salvage suggests this season has been bad. I would argue it has been good, amd the only frustration is how much better ot could have been if two or three matches in the league had ended differently.
Seems to me there are a lot of hearts-esque posts here, trying to foment the idea that our season is somehow over because we went out the cup. If that is true, why do we even bother playing in the league? Just because hearts went through a period of self-flagellation for the last two seasons after we pumped them out of the cup, doesnt mean we habe to.
Very transparent attempts imo.Last edited by SouthsideHarp_Bhoy; 29-01-2018 at 05:57 AM.
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29-01-2018 06:55 AM #6
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If SJM is to go, sooner he went now for good money than later for a pittance. His performances of late have been average at best. We need McGinn and Stokes moved on, and some decent money put into good replacements plus a RB.
Lennon is the best we've had in 20 yrs, even though he's far from perfect. His signings have been questionable, especially if you take away his Celtic connections (Effe and Stokes). His tactics and use of subs are often iffy as well. But I like his passion, the way he sticks up for the club and the standards he sets and expects of players. Really hope he stays.
If we lose Lennon and SJM, we'll fall back and likely end up scrapping in the bottom 6.
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29-01-2018 01:21 PM #8
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The only rumours about Lennon and the Scotland job are made up ones from rag papers, repeated here by a mixture of Yams, roaster posters and people who should know better.
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28-01-2018 12:10 PM #10
After paying St Mirren their share, I think that most of the McGinn money will be invested in the full sized indoor pitch for East Mains that has been mentioned.
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28-01-2018 02:01 PM #11
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29-01-2018 04:22 AM #12
Well that wasn’t what I expected from the thread title...
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29-01-2018 05:14 AM #14
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Who do people think Lennon, McGinn and Stokes would be replaced with?
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29-01-2018 06:32 AM #15
No need to be hitting any button. We are doing just fine. McGinn will move on at some point and we will reinvest in the club in some form.
We have a clear structure in place and will probably not reap anything like the full rewards for another four or five years.it might even be a bumpy ride. Luck plays a big part. Just take the last two Tynecastle ferries as proof of that. Patience.
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29-01-2018 11:31 AM #16
We need stability, I for one hope Lennon stays. For far too long we have had this revolving door of managers in/out.
Transfers will happen if we like it or not, but we need a stable foundation to build on, this we have now so if Lennon moves on we will be back to square one.
On Stokes who was AS rabbit out of the hat that won us the Cup, but it’s clear that he is no longer of much use to us and causes more problems than we can manage.
Sitting fourth after a fun of results that could have been a lot better isn’t too shabby at this point, we can and should be keeping on the heels of The Rangers and Aberdeen and 2nd / 3rd isn’t too far away, and at the start of the season, if we were offered finishing 4th, I think most of us would take that.
The quicker the window closes and all the speculation stops the better, yes I hope we bring in a goal scorer without having to lose any of our big players.
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29-01-2018 11:59 AM #17
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29-01-2018 12:21 PM #20
The impression I get from Lennon from listening to every interview he’s given is that he loves it here and is building something for the future.
Watch his interview from earlier this season when he signed his contract extension, he’s as happy as a pig in *****!!
Another 2 or 3 years at least until he moves on.
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