Stokesy

[Captain Trips]

I started a thread were I was majorly pissed at him and the others. If there is a bit more to it than carry on in Portugal and he is willing to give it 100% then I still believe he offers us a lot.

I hope he gets a game tomorrow and does well, I really really want this to work out.

[Cod Boy]

He won't start tomorrow might be on bench.

[Lago]

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He won't start tomorrow might be on bench.

That will be a good start and sign

[stokesmessiah]

I just watched NL press conference and in all honesty, I think Stokes is done at Hibs. Whether they can get rid before next Wednesday, I don’t know and if not, it’s going to have to be an arm round the shoulder to get what we can from him. I will be gobsmacked if he is in our lineup next season.

[silverhibee]

After seeing the full interview from Lennon on another thread it wouldn't surprise me if he travels with the club as part of the squad but might find himself sitting in the stand.

[Sammy7nil]

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I just watched NL press conference and in all honesty, I think Stokes is done at Hibs. Whether they can get rid before next Wednesday, I don’t know and if not, it’s going to have to be an arm round the shoulder to get what we can from him. I will be gobsmacked if he is in our lineup next season.

Intend to agree but lots of strange things happen in football.

[snooky]

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After seeing the full interview from Lennon on another thread it wouldn't surprise me if he travels with the club as part of the squad but might find himself sitting in the stand.

Trying to read between the lines, I get the feeling Lennon's thrown the towel in re. Stokes. But like poster SM above says, all things can change. Tomorrow is always another day.

[silverhibee]

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Trying to read between the lines, I get the feeling Lennon's thrown the towel in re. Stokes. But like poster SM above says, all things can change. Tomorrow is always another day.

Six strikers traveling up to be in contention, two make the starting 11 and 2 make the bench and that could leave 2 sitting in the stand, maybe, certainly one will be up in the stand.

[greenlex]

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Trying to read between the lines, I get the feeling Lennon's thrown the towel in re. Stokes. But like poster SM above says, all things can change. Tomorrow is always another day.

You could see Lennons body language on Sunday was t great. I’d possibly correctly guess that part of that is being let down by he players. I wonder who might be top of that list?
We saw how stubborn Lennon is during the Fyvie situation in the summer. So...

[confused]

In all honesty no player should ever be allowed to continually disregard the rules , for me , sorry it’s bye - bye

[Sir David Gray]

From what Lennon said in his most recent interview, I get the impression that he considers Stokes to be unmanageable.

[Smartie]

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From what Lennon said in his most recent interview, I get the impression that he considers Stokes to be unmanageable.

If he doesn't screw the nut for Lennon - a tough manager who has done a lot for Stokes in the past - then who does he knuckle down under?

My personal opinion is that Stokes thinks he's bigger than us. Sadly for Stokes, the only clubs likely to now be interested in him will be well below even our level.

If he were to go back to Celtic, go to an EPL team or find a big club on the continent then he might sort himself out. But let's face it - that is never going to happen.

This might be Stokes' last chance to salvage something from a career on a downward trajectory, up to him whether or not he fancies it.

I'd be inclined to agree with Lennon - Stokes may well be unmanageable.

[BSEJVT]

One definition of insanity is doing the same things and expecting different results

Time to cut our losses on Stokes IMO.

I still think they guy is a decent player but that his ability doesn't outweigh the baggage that has and always will travel with him.

Realistic enough to acknowledge that if we cant get rid, he may play his way back in, but would prefer to get shot.

Thanks for the memories.

[J-C]

I don't know if Stokes was ever gonna start or even play against Hearts after Portugal but by asking for time off he took that decision out of Lennon's hands, I just wonder if his father back home in Dublin had summoned him back over to give him a right bollocking, I know he has a lot of influence over Stokes.

After watching the latest Lennon interview, all the correct things are being said but it doesn't look like he'll be in the squad, it sounded to me like Lennon has washed his hands of him after giving him every opportunity to help his career, only for Stokes to continually through it back into his face.

[Souter96Mac]

It'll be interesting come 6:45 when the team gets announced.

[Geo_1875]

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From what Lennon said in his most recent interview, I get the impression that he considers Stokes to be unmanageable.

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If he doesn't screw the nut for Lennon - a tough manager who has done a lot for Stokes in the past - then who does he knuckle down under?

My personal opinion is that Stokes thinks he's bigger than us. Sadly for Stokes, the only clubs likely to now be interested in him will be well below even our level.

If he were to go back to Celtic, go to an EPL team or find a big club on the continent then he might sort himself out. But let's face it - that is never going to happen.

This might be Stokes' last chance to salvage something from a career on a downward trajectory, up to him whether or not he fancies it.

I'd be inclined to agree with Lennon - Stokes may well be unmanageable.

No. You agree with SDG who gets the impression that Lennon considers Stokes to be unmanageable.

And people wonder why unfounded rumours grow arms and legs and are suddenly quoted as fact on the back pages of the **** and the ******.

[allmodcons]

Lennon quoted as saying "I think everyone will be looking for a bit of payback - if he plays. He owes everybody something".

That sounds to me like he's seriously considering playing him tonight?

[hughio]

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I started a thread were I was majorly pissed at him and the others. If there is a bit more to it than carry on in Portugal and he is willing to give it 100% then I still believe he offers us a lot.

I hope he gets a game tomorrow and does well, I really really want this to work out.

If he gets a game surely its to put him in the shop window with a view to getting some money back on a poor investment before the January window closes.

He's clearly a law unto himself and a disruptive influence ,disrespecful of the manager,club and fans I'm sorry to say.

Should know better by now Anthony.

You've blown it.

[SeanWilson]

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Lennon quoted as saying "I think everyone will be looking for a bit of payback - if he plays. He owes everybody something".

That sounds to me like he's seriously considering playing him tonight?

Its an absolute nightmare scenario - hugely talented game changer in the ranks but clearly done something to P him off! Big decision to make.

[allmodcons]

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Its an absolute nightmare scenario - hugely talented game changer in the ranks but clearly done something to P him off! Big decision to make.

He's a quality player, but a mess of an individual.
It's easy to criticise, but sounds to me like he has some serious issues.
I doubt he'd be at Hibs if his head was in the right place.

[Stokesy's on fire]

I hope he does play tonight!

[Sir David Gray]

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No. You agree with SDG who gets the impression that Lennon considers Stokes to be unmanageable.

And people wonder why unfounded rumours grow arms and legs and are suddenly quoted as fact on the back pages of the **** and the ******.

At no point have I stated my opinion as fact or even suggested it to be fact.

I think I made it very clear that I had formed that opinion based purely on the back of my interpretation of Lennon's comments on the matter.

If anyone wants to take my post and turn it into a fact-based rumour or anything like that then that's up to them.

[Smartie]

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No. You agree with SDG who gets the impression that Lennon considers Stokes to be unmanageable.

And people wonder why unfounded rumours grow arms and legs and are suddenly quoted as fact on the back pages of the **** and the ******.

Ok then, I agree with SDG's opinion.

Hope that makes everyone feel a bit better and keeps the papers at bay.

[Geo_1875]

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At no point have I stated my opinion as fact or even suggested it to be fact.

I think I made it very clear that I had formed that opinion based purely on the back of my interpretation of Lennon's comments on the matter.

If anyone wants to take my post and turn it into a fact-based rumour or anything like that then that's up to them.

That was in response to Smartie who quoted your post but said he agreed with Lennon.

[One Day Soon]

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He's a quality player, but a mess of an individual.
It's easy to criticise, but sounds to me like he has some serious issues.
I doubt he'd be at Hibs if his head was in the right place.

Footballers eh? This is not the first player in Scotland I can think of who had 'issues' outside of the 90 minutes on the pitch.

I think all this is entirely in his hands right now. Screw the nut, train, play and behave - he'll be here a while. Don't and he'll be out.

[Firestarter]

Didn't something happen right before the Inver we replay in the cup? He was getting right pelters and told to gtf and then scored a double to send us through. Certainly worth a punt tonight.

[Hermit Crab]

If he gets right back into the team it doesn't set a good example and may annoy other players as Stokes seems to be untouchable in terms of disciplinary action, while others get hammered.

[Lago]

I tell you one thing, looking at the horizontal rain bashing of my window, he'll probably be hoping NL won't play him. Horrendous weather here just now.

[HoboHarry]

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I tell you one thing, looking at the horizontal rain bashing of my window, he'll probably be hoping NL won't play him. Horrendous weather here just now.

It's going to get up to 17 C here today. Gerritrightroonye.........

[Hermit Crab]

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I tell you one thing, looking at the horizontal rain bashing of my window, he'll probably be hoping NL won't play him. Horrendous weather here just now.

The games not in Kirkcaldy though??