Incident at the goal

[21.05.2016]

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I was right behind a small kid when this happened, if it hadn't have been for a small metal bar, he was taking it full on in the face, both off us and a few others were showered in glass, how now one got hurt was just pure luck, nothing else.
I will be contacting the police tomorrow to ask.if they will be following this is up. The bottle came in like a missile, not lobbed etc.
I don't hold hearts responsible for an obvious idiots behaviour but how on earth do you get in with a 750ml bottle of buckfast and not get spotted.
It really could have been so much worse, frightening to be honest to think that a child could have been seriously injured due to an individual's behaviour at a football match.

Unfortunately quite easily I would imagine. None of the people I went with today got searched and we all had big jackets on so if we had wanted to I imagine we could have quite easily got through with a bottle stuffed inside our jackets. In fairness to the stewards/police, thats pretty hard to stop unless your going to rub down search every single person who goes in which is totally impractical.

[murray26]

It’s quite easy.. the key is not to embarrass your club and lob it onto the park when it’s empty 👍

[Nakedmanoncrack]

Some photos of a smashed Buckfast bottle on Twitter, don't know if its the same one, Jambos suggesting this one was dropped rather than thrown.

[Hermit Crab]

What is this? Point scoring? He said she said!! Our fans are idiots too, did nobody see the clown that jumped the hordings and tried to attach the hearts fans in section G?

[EastCalderHibby]

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they are absolute ****bags.

total **** of the earth diet huns

[calumhibee1]

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Some photos of a smashed Buckfast bottle on Twitter, don't know if its the same one, Jambos suggesting this one was dropped rather than thrown.

Dropped from the Wheatfield into the Hibs end at speed. No bother Jambos. Plenty around me seen it. I’m not even going to generalise all hearts fans and call them ****bags for it, because I know the vast majority wouldn’t dream of doing that. But the guy that done it is the **** of the earth.

[Sir David Gray]

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What is this? Point scoring? He said she said!! Our fans are idiots too, did nobody see the clown that jumped the hordings and tried to attach the hearts fans in section G?

No-one's saying we don't have idiots in our support.

I would suggest that chucking a glass bottle into a crowded area is FAR more dangerous and FAR more serious than some headcase jumping over hoardings and running towards the Hearts fans.

[calumhibee1]

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No-one's saying we don't have idiots in our support.

I would suggest that chucking a glass bottle into a crowded area is FAR more dangerous and FAR more serious than some headcase jumping over hoardings and running towards the Hearts fans.

Exactly. Whoever threw it was trying to maim a Hibs fan. And not even a particular Hibs fan, just any Hibs fan. A child was almost the victim.

[WeeRussell]

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What is this? Point scoring? He said she said!! Our fans are idiots too, did nobody see the clown that jumped the hordings and tried to attach the hearts fans in section G?

Are you suggesting that a glass bottle being thrown into a crowd and almost pelting a young child in the face isn't worthy of bringing up, because we have some ar*ehole fans like every other club

[blackpoolhibs]

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What is this? Point scoring? He said she said!! Our fans are idiots too, did nobody see the clown that jumped the hordings and tried to attach the hearts fans in section G?

Ah good old whataboutery.

[CropleyWasGod]

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Some photos of a smashed Buckfast bottle on Twitter, don't know if its the same one, Jambos suggesting this one was dropped rather than thrown.

Doubt it's the same one. The one on Twatter looks like it was taken on a sunny day.

[HarpyHibby]

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Doubt it's the same one. The one on Twatter looks like it was taken on a sunny day.

Nonsense. The ground is lit by floodlights. The stands aren't darkened caves. It landed in the top row of the lower tier, Section H.

I was standing about 5 rows down and 10 seats to the right. The bottle came straight over from Section G seconds after they scored. It was a miracle it never hit anyone.

I heard at work today the ******** who threw it was aiming for the guy in the front row with the tri-colour. The alleged culprit and the intended victim are both from Tranent. Hopefully it was caught on CCTV. Section N and Section G seem to attract people from the total doldrums of society.

[CropleyWasGod]

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Nonsense. The ground is lit by floodlights. The stands aren't darkened caves. It landed in the top row of the lower tier, Section H.

I was standing about 5 rows down and 10 seats to the right. The bottle came straight over from Section G seconds after they scored. It was a miracle it never hit anyone.

I heard at work today the ******** who threw it was aiming for the guy in the front row with the tri-colour. The alleged culprit and the intended victim are both from Tranent. Hopefully it was caught on CCTV. Section N and Section G seem to attract people from the total doldrums of society.

Think you've misread my post. I was commenting on the photo on Twitter, nothing else. Looks like a sunny day to me.

[HarpyHibby]

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Think you've misread my post. I was commenting on the photo on Twitter, nothing else. Looks like a sunny day to me.

Sorry mate, only the first part of my post was to you. I think the floodlights are giving the impression that its a sunny day. Someone on Twitter also questioned where the snow was.. the roof covering the stand being the obvious reason for its absence.

[CropleyWasGod]

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Sorry mate, only the first part of my post was to you. I think the floodlights are giving the impression that its a sunny day. Someone on Twitter also questioned where the snow was.. the roof covering the stand being the obvious reason for its absence.

Fair enough.

at the snow

[Nakedmanoncrack]

The one on twitter does look from the stains on the guys trousers to have been dropped rather than thrown as per the incident being talked about.

[The Modfather]

The Derby brings out the worst in both supports. I was in the front row behind the goals and and someone threw an empty Vodka bottle into the 6 yard box. The Hearts keeper wasn’t there so wasn’t thrown at him but what’s the point?!

There was also a Hibee in the queue to the turnstiles having a right go at the Police with some bizarre rant about working class v upper class. The police woman took it in good spirits and was joking that she was quite chuffed to be called upper class. He kept up the rant for about 5 minutes.

[CropleyWasGod]

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The Derby brings out the worst in both supports. I was in the front row behind the goals and and someone threw an empty Vodka bottle into the 6 yard box. The Hearts keeper wasn’t there so wasn’t thrown at him but what’s the point?!

There was also a Hibee in the queue to the turnstiles having a right go at the Police with some bizarre rant about working class v upper class. The police woman took it in good spirits and was joking that she was quite chuffed to be called upper class. He kept up the rant for about 5 minutes.

The window is still open. Sign him up to take our throw-ins.

[The Modfather]

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The window is still open. Sign him up to take our throw-ins.

Thought you were advocating signing me until I read your post properly 😢

[Hermit Crab]

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Are you suggesting that a glass bottle being thrown into a crowd and almost pelting a young child in the face isn't worthy of bringing up, because we have some ar*ehole fans like every other club

No I’m saying that both sets fans are bad as each other. Objects were thrown at the hearts keeper from our end and the Hibs fan who jumped the barrier to “square go” the numpties in section G. Incredibly he was not lifted just put back into the crowd.


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[WeeRussell]

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No I’m saying that both sets fans are bad as each other. Objects were thrown at the hearts keeper from our end and the Hibs fan who jumped the barrier to “square go” the numpties in section G. Incredibly he was not lifted just put back into the crowd.


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You’re correct - idiots the right term for all those involved in the above. If a thread was started on any of them I’d condemn them too (regardless of which side). I’ve only been to one game against them at tynecastle and it did seem to back-up the idea that it brings out the worst in both sets of fans!

This glass bottle incident is another level though.

[givescotlandfreedom]

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The Derby brings out the worst in both supports. I was in the front row behind the goals and and someone threw an empty Vodka bottle into the 6 yard box. The Hearts keeper wasn’t there so wasn’t thrown at him but what’s the point?!

I must have been next to you. That bloke was an idiot even had a go at folk in the front row sitting down so a young child behind could see. Whilst he had his kid with him.

[RamYer1902]

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Definitely a pie, was thrown from near me.

Didn't know about the bottle incident, seriously unpleasant.

My experience today was of crowd generally very subdued, and better behaved than usual. Worst thing I saw all day was the huge amount of vandalism on the route from Roseburn, presumably the graffiti was sprayed under the cover of the "corteo".

I loved it to be honest

[Sir David Gray]

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No I’m saying that both sets fans are bad as each other. Objects were thrown at the hearts keeper from our end and the Hibs fan who jumped the barrier to “square go” the numpties in section G. Incredibly he was not lifted just put back into the crowd.


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What is this? Point scoring? He said she said!! Our fans are idiots too, did nobody see the clown that jumped the hordings and tried to attach the hearts fans in section G?

That suggested that you were trying to make out that highlighting the bottle incident was somehow sensationalising things and being petty just because we have a few bad eggs in our support.

This incident was at the extreme end of the scale for the potential for serious injury to have occurred and it's only through sheer luck that that didn't happen. God forbid if this is reciprocated at the next derby by Hibs fans throwing a bottle into the Hearts end then I'll repeat my condemnation of that too.

These type of incidents need to be dealt with in their own right. The throwing of glass bottles is on a whole different level from the usual unruly behaviour that is seen at almost every derby match and needs to be highlighted and condemned by every right thinking person, regardless of which team they support.

[Hermit Crab]

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This was your original post on this thread;



That suggested that you were trying to make out that highlighting the bottle incident was somehow sensationalising things and being petty just because we have a few bad eggs in our support.

This incident was at the extreme end of the scale for the potential for serious injury to have occurred and it's only through sheer luck that that didn't happen. God forbid if this is reciprocated at the next derby by Hibs fans throwing a bottle into the Hearts end then I'll repeat my condemnation of that too.

These type of incidents need to be dealt with in their own right. The throwing of glass bottles is on a whole different level from the usual unruly behaviour that is seen at almost every derby match and needs to be highlighted and condemned by every right thinking person, regardless of which team they support.

Blame lies with the stewards and Hearts here! We were searched on entry to the stadium, were the home fans? Surely this will have been captured on cctv.

[Sir David Gray]

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Blame lies with the stewards and Hearts here! We were searched on entry to the stadium, were the home fans?

I don't think it's practical to search almost 20,000 people to be honest, it would take hours to get everyone into the stadium. The only way around that would be for everyone to go through an airport style body scanner which is never likely to happen any time soon. The blame will always rest with the home team though, rightly or wrongly. As I said earlier in the thread, if an injury had occurred at the game, Hearts would have been held responsible if it had been taken to court.

[Hermit Crab]

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I don't think it's practical to search almost 20,000 people to be honest, it would take hours to get everyone into the stadium. The only way around that would be for everyone to go through an airport style body scanner which is never likely to happen any time soon. The blame will always rest with the home team though, rightly or wrongly. As I said earlier in the thread, if an injury had occurred at the game, Hearts would have been held responsible if it had been taken to court.

Theres a tweet and a picture claiming it did cause injury?? Is this not the case?

[Sir David Gray]

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Theres a tweet and a picture claiming it did cause injury?? Is this not the case?

I didn't see anything at the time but I wouldn't be surprised if someone was injured. I hope whoever it is, is alright.

[Kaff]

The only thing that saved the idiot who threw the bottle was the area that separates the lower and upper seats. He maybe aimed it to land in there but i can't honestly accept that, imagine if that was into a general area of the crowd? There would have been no way someone wouldnt have been struck.
I didnt see it land but i saw the trajectory and it was coming in straight from a powerful 'javelin' like throw, it wasn't lobbed over and landed safely in an unoccupied area. Someone above says it hit the railing in front of the yound child and that must have been very frightening even without the potential of broken glass showering him. I'm assuming it was a boy as a father was going mental about it to a copper and the stewards, there wasn't enough concern being shown about the severity of the incident imo although all the other coppers were occupied at the front of the Wheatfield of course.
I know you have the reputation for this sort of stance and whether its intended as wind up or not youre totally wrong Hermit. By all means deride our support for pitch invasion etc but I don't think it should be used to try and dilute this incident as it has to be isolated and dealt with as the serious attempt to injure that it is and not soom mindless act of hooligan bravado.

[Sir David Gray]

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The only thing that saved the idiot who threw the bottle was the area that separates the lower and upper seats. He maybe aimed it to land in there but i can't honestly accept that, imagine if that was into a general area of the crowd? There would have been no way someone wouldnt have been struck.
I didnt see it land but i saw the trajectory and it was coming in straight from a powerful 'javelin' like throw, it wasn't lobbed over and landed safely in an unoccupied area. Someone above says it hit the railing in front of the yound child and that must have been very frightening even without the potential of broken glass showering him. I'm assuming it was a boy as a father was going mental about it to a copper and the stewards, there wasn't enough concern being shown about the severity of the incident imo although all the other coppers were occupied at the front of the Wheatfield of course.
I know you have the reputation for this sort of stance and whether its intended as wind up or not youre totally wrong Hermit. By all means deride our support for pitch invasion etc but I don't think it should be used to try and dilute this incident as it has to be isolated and dealt with as the serious attempt to injure that it is and not soom mindless act of hooligan bravado.

Correct, well said.

That area you refer to between the upper and lower section of the stand is the wheelchair platform. It's simply good fortune that the area the bottle landed in wasn't occupied by a wheelchair user and their carer. As I said earlier, I initially sat there when I first arrived at the ground on Sunday and only moved along just before kick off.

The consequences of that hitting someone in the face or neck really don't bear thinking about.