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  1. #31
    Very good comeback by Native River. As soon as Cloudy Dream, admittedly not a strong stayer or finisher, came at him he kicked on and won by miles. He'll be cut for the GC now.


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  3. #32
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    Very good comeback by Native River. As soon as Cloudy Dream, admittedly not a strong stayer or finisher, came at him he kicked on and won by miles. He'll be cut for the GC now.
    Well as you just said, Cloudy Dream, not for the first time proves that he doesn't stay the distance and Saphir Du Rheu definitely needed the run, often makes glaring mistakes and all Native River needed to do was jump round and stay on his feet. Bookies benefit really, they wanted an excuse to shorten his price up and they got it.

  4. #33
    Altior. Wow.

    Just walked past the best performing British 2 mile chaser this year. On the bridle, on ground that isn't ideal and after a long lay off.

    Shaping up to be a good face off with Min in March now, he won't be odds against now that's for sure.

  5. #34
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    Altior. Wow.

    Just walked past the best performing British 2 mile chaser this year. On the bridle, on ground that isn't ideal and after a long lay off.

    Shaping up to be a good face off with Min in March now, he won't be odds against now that's for sure.
    He'll win the Champion Chase, looks like Douvan is out for the season. The bookies must love this meeting, first odds-on Native River then a 1/3 favourite wins a 3 horse race and they can shorten the odds even more for the Champion Chase and make him even less attractive for punters. By the way, Altior's only ever run on good/good to soft or soft ground, today was his ground. Class act, a very good horse who does sometimes hit a flat spot in his races but always manages to produce the goods. 1 minor concern would be that he looked vulnerable in last season's festival, but after that was really impressive, so it doesn't make sense to back against him, and it might pay to either back something else each-way or just leave the race alone.

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  7. #36
    Douvan might be in line to appear on Saturday at Gowran. I mentioned earlier in the thread that Ricci said he does have a chance to make Cheltenham. He is entered in the Ryanair but surely would need to go for the Queen Mother.

  8. #37
    Coneygree, Whisper and Bristol De Mai all out at the latest stage of Gold Cup declarations. 27 remain in. Might Bite favourite at 7/2.

    Defi De Seuil and The New One, as expected, both out of the Champion Hurdle. 19 still in. Buveur D'Air fav at 4/9.

    Barters Hill, Beer Goggles, Shaneshill and Cole Harden all out the Stayers. 26 still in. Supasundae fav at 100/30.

    Waiting Patiently out the QM. 21 still in. Altior fav at 8/11.
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  9. #38
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    He'll win the Champion Chase, looks like Douvan is out for the season. The bookies must love this meeting, first odds-on Native River then a 1/3 favourite wins a 3 horse race and they can shorten the odds even more for the Champion Chase and make him even less attractive for punters. By the way, Altior's only ever run on good/good to soft or soft ground, today was his ground. Class act, a very good horse who does sometimes hit a flat spot in his races but always manages to produce the goods. 1 minor concern would be that he looked vulnerable in last season's festival, but after that was really impressive, so it doesn't make sense to back against him, and it might pay to either back something else each-way or just leave the race alone.
    Thatís 3 different types of going youíve named though, and given heís done plenty of his work (and winning) on good.. PB has every right to argue that wasnít his ideal ground?

    Agree though - very impressive and Iíve taken some of sky betís evens theyíve offfered as a boost this week.

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    Thatís 3 different types of going youíve named though, and given heís done plenty of his work (and winning) on good.. PB has every right to argue that wasnít his ideal ground?

    Agree though - very impressive and Iíve taken some of sky betís evens theyíve offfered as a boost this week.
    I jumped on the Altior and Native River double boost at 14/1.

  11. #40
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    I jumped on the Altior and Native River double boost at 14/1.
    Seen that but Native river isnít for me.. yet. Havenít got nearly as far as the gold cup yet haha

  12. #41
    Black day for me with the betting today.

    Black Corton
    Black Ivory
    Blacklion

    Decent chance with that treble I think.
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    Black day for me with the betting today.

    Black Corton
    Black Ivory
    Blacklion

    Decent chance with that treble I think.
    1st
    Brought down (sadly fatally)
    2nd

    Black Corton looks the real deal and has won me a few pennies in the laat year. Nicholls might just have found a new Grade 1 horse.
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  14. #43
    Betfair Chase at Ascot- what a brilliant race. Waiting Patiently is a class horse, and today he proved it, because Cue Card ran an excellent race in defeat, Frodon, Top Notch etc quite a way back. I suppose the only real disappointment was Coney Island who was pulled up much earlier, as I remember him winning so impressively earlier in the season. But this was the race that had everything.

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    1st
    Brought down (sadly fatally)
    2nd

    Black Corton looks the real deal and has won me a few pennies in the laat year. Nicholls might just have found a new Grade 1 horse.
    It's close between Black Corton and a horse called Elegant Escape, they've both beaten each other by roughly the same distance, over roughly the same ground this season. The other horse that was in the mix was Fountains Windfall who was challenging them both when falling in both races. He sadly had to get put down after a freak training accident. Black Corton is best price 9-1 at Skybet for the RSA, Elegant Escape is 17/1. Black Corton has form at Cheltenham, and that could be significant, but it's a hell of a race to work out. I would agree with you that he might well be a Grade 1 horse, he's got an admirable attitude, but he's had a long season for a chaser, going for a race like the RSA, which is a really hard race to call, might just be going to the well once to often this season but I could easily be wrong.

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