Super John McGinn

[seanshow]

Every day John McGinn is with us he will remain a legend, but do you think any of these options are the cause of more error strewn performances recently.

• Carrying an injury/illness/personal issue.
• Slight loss of form,tired and ready for the winter break.
• Saving himself for bigger games ahead.
• Behind the scene negotiations/pre contract with other club arranged.
• Unhappy with his team mates, thinks he's carrying the team.

He quickly applauded the crowd at the end of the game today and was the first person up the tunnel, very unlike him.

[we are hibs]

Think he's going through a rough spell of form and I don't think he looks sharp, it's like he's not running freely at times which stands out more because he's a player who uses every ounce of energy

[JohnM1875]

Probably knows he didn’t have the best of games and just wanted to head up the tunnel. I’ve no doubt he’ll be one of our best players on Wednesday. But agree that he winter break will do him some good. Looked spent last 15! Against The Rangers.

[Pretty Boy]

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Every day John McGinn is with us he will remain a legend, but do you think any of these options are the cause of more error strewn performances recently.

• Carrying an injury/illness/personal issue.
• Slight loss of form,tired and ready for the winter break.
• Saving himself for bigger games ahead.
• Behind the scene negotiations/pre contract with other club arranged.
• Unhappy with his team mates, thinks he's carrying the team.

He quickly applauded the crowd at the end of the game today and was the first person up the tunnel, very unlike him.

I think his reaction at the end of the game today was just one of a player who knew he hadn’t been at his best. It happens.

I love John McGinn. He’s a legend and he’s the kind of player who makes you want to watch football. He’s had a tough time more than once in recent weeks and it just doesn’t seem to be happening for him. It looks to me like he’s trying too hard to force it and would maybe benefit from keeping it simple. It’s probably worth remembering he is now facing better players every week than he has been used to in the last 2 seasons.

[RoYO!]

He's also probably picking up on the fact that the fans are getting on his back/ moaning if he's not absolutely perfect...

[Ronniekirk]

Word on the street in Paisley is that he could be off to West Brom for 3 Million
No idea if any milage in this or just St Mirren fans desperate for their cut of a Big TransferFee


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[greenlex]

None of the above. Trying too hard. Thought he was actually slightly better today than of late.

[Allant1981]

most wont agree but think he needs to leave soon to improve, he seems to have stalled a bit in his progression. Still one of the best players at the club and we will miss him when he is gone

[Mcpakeisgod]

I’ll just enjoy the guy while he’s here

[J-C]

Thought McGinn was poor again today, tried hard but his levels have dropped this past couple of months. He played a superb diagonal pass to Boyle in the 1st half and then took a free kick which was way over hit. I don't think he's carrying an injury but he does seem to be trying far too hard at times, McGeouch on the other hand strolled through this game and was by far the better of the 2, composed, solid in the tackle, clever runs and passes and just makes the team tick when he's on form. McGinn recently has been getting caught too often in possession, misplacing too many passes and only showing glimpses of what we know he's capable of.

We were told he was a wee bit upset his move didn't happen in the summer, I'm wondering if that's been playing on his mind and may also be mulling over a new contract and what he wants to do with it.

[MWHIBBIES]

Poor in a 2 man midfield, far better beside Fyvie and Dylan

[Onion]

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He's also probably picking up on the fact that the fans are getting on his back/ moaning if he's not absolutely perfect...

Had poor game today, a performance that would get him no where near the higher level he aspires to. In saying that, he's a lad that never ever hides and is always looking for the ball. Next game, he's just as likely to be MOTM.

[Onceinawhile]

I'm convinced he's got a time of first throw in bet on every week.

Cannot be any other reason for those centres.

[Frazerbob]

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I'm convinced he's got a time of first throw in bet on every week.

Cannot be any other reason for those centres.

Surely he’d have told to pack it in by Lennon. It’s very odd though.

[bookert]

It's playing in a two man midfield, it's hard work doing the defensive duties as well as supporting the front two.

[Pretty Boy]

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I'm convinced he's got a time of first throw in bet on every week.

Cannot be any other reason for those centres.

It’s a very common centre. The idea is to push the opposing team right back into the corner and try and press the throw-in. A bit like kicking for territory in rugby.

We just aren’t very good at it.

[Smartie]

I was just thinking he wasn't himself at all today when during the second half he weighted a lovely pass with his right foot in front of Boyle.

He's set a high bar for himself, that's for sure, but I there's no way watching that game that you'd have thought McGinn was our most saleable asset. Many players played a lot better than him today.

I heard a rumour from a fairly decent source a few weeks ago, that he is off to West Ham for £4.5 million in January.

[Heisenberg]

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I was just thinking he wasn't himself at all today when during the second half he weighted a lovely pass with his right foot in front of Boyle.

He's set a high bar for himself, that's for sure, but I there's no way watching that game that you'd have thought McGinn was our most saleable asset. Many players played a lot better than him today.

I heard a rumour from a fairly decent source a few weeks ago, that he is off to West Ham for £4.5 million in January.

He’s a quality player but i’d snap their hand off for that kind of cash. Can’t see it being that much unfortunately.

[Pretty Boy]

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He’s a quality player but i’d snap their hand off for that kind of cash. Can’t see it being that much unfortunately.

If we are going to get big money for him it will have to be in January. No one is going to spend more than they have to on a player in the summer when they can get them on a pre contract for nothing this time next year.

[Smartie]

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He’s a quality player but i’d snap their hand off for that kind of cash. Can’t see it being that much unfortunately.

Me too, and it raised my eyebrow, that's for sure.

That was a few weeks ago, and at that time West Ham were maybe a bit more desperate than they are right now.

There is silly money in England and if there were a few clubs fancying taking a chance on someone who is already in the International squad and has potential to improve, then whilst a bit fanciful, it might not be ridiculous.

[Vini1875]

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I think his reaction at the end of the game today was just one of a player who knew he hadn’t been at his best. It happens.

I love John McGinn. He’s a legend and he’s the kind of player who makes you want to watch football. He’s had a tough time more than once in recent weeks and it just doesn’t seem to be happening for him. It looks to me like he’s trying too hard to force it and would maybe benefit from keeping it simple. It’s probably worth remembering he is now facing better players every week than he has been used to in the last 2 seasons.

Said exactly the same thing at the game today. If you compare him with Scott Brown, Brown does little things very well and conserves his energy for when its needed. SJM has a tendacity to push things, take on players instead of a simple pass, 40 yard cross field balls when a short on the deck ball is on and charging into tackles when all he needs to do is pressure a player into a mistake.

I love McGinn but he is still well short of being an old head and managing his own game.

[ancient hibee]

Even when he’s having a bad game he never hides.Didn’t like it today when he was gesticulating at players who failed to reach some pretty desperate passes.Somebody else must be given the free kicks and corners because they’ve been very poor.He’ll play his way out of it.

[3pm]

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I was just thinking he wasn't himself at all today when during the second half he weighted a lovely pass with his right foot in front of Boyle.

He's set a high bar for himself, that's for sure, but I there's no way watching that game that you'd have thought McGinn was our most saleable asset. Many players played a lot better than him today.

I heard a rumour from a fairly decent source a few weeks ago, that he is off to West Ham for £4.5 million in January.

Sure he wasn’t getting confused with the £300K from Wigan for Jamie Walker? 😂

[theonlywayisup]

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None of the above. Trying too hard. Thought he was actually slightly better today than of late.

The boy is class. He'll be even better surrounded by better players.

He never hides - he can have a stinker, but then picks himself up and then tries again.

[tamig]

John McGinn needs the Jan break. He’s been awful for weeks now. Whether he’s still with us at end of Jan is anyone’s guess.

[Shrekko]

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Said exactly the same thing at the game today. If you compare him with Scott Brown, Brown does little things very well and conserves his energy for when its needed. SJM has a tendacity to push things, take on players instead of a simple pass, 40 yard cross field balls when a short on the deck ball is on and charging into tackles when all he needs to do is pressure a player into a mistake.

I love McGinn but he is still well short of being an old head and managing his own game.

Scott Brown could be an impetuous idiot at times when he was that age and very immature with it.

McGinn will mature into a fantastic player at a very high level. Been a pleasure to have him.

[thebakerboy]

Wonder if he knows he is off and is trying to avoid injury , I dont think that is a good idea because holding back is when you get hurt. I hope this isnt it because I think he is an honest guy and wouldnt let us down but it could just be at the back of his mind.

[pacorosssco]

[QUOTE=Shrekko;5256036]Scott Brown could be an impetuous idiot at times when he was that age and very immature with it.

Brown would lose or give away ball cheaply when younger learned to retain it better. Him Mcginn different players but would have complement each other well as a pair. Brown was a joy to watch

[stoneyburn hibs]

He had his worst game in a Hibs shirt today imo. He's quality though, only ever going to be an improvement.

[matty_f]

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John McGinn needs the Jan break. He’s been awful for weeks now. Whether he’s still with us at end of Jan is anyone’s guess.

He was excellent against Celtc, very good against The Rangers, poor against Aberdeen (but so were all of his teammates).

He was ok today, probably poor against his own standards but I don't think the formation suits him.