Just wanted to start a thread to mention I would like to see Stokes and Shaw get a run together as a front two.
I've seen some criticism of Stokes recently that, I'll be honest, I think has been OTT. His ball to Stevenson, that led to Shaw's goal v Celtic, was an absolute joy.
However, I think Stokes & Murray doesn't click for me, and Shaw and Murray didn't click the other night, possibly because Murray tries to stay offside all the time (something that I personally wish he would cut out of his game, as he has the natural pace to give most defenders a head start and still beat them...from an onside starting point).
But for 30 mins at Hampden and 20 mins v Celtic (or whatever the timings were) I saw enough to think a front pairing of Shaw as spearhead, and Stokes in a wily withdrawn role, could well do a bit of damage.
I'd keep Simon Murray on the bench at the moment, and run with the Stokes & Shaw show. Interested to hear if others have any thoughts/disagreement/agreement?
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15-12-2017 03:45 PM #1
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Shaw & Stokes as a front two pairing
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15-12-2017 03:52 PM #2
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I agree they played too far away from each other on Weds.
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15-12-2017 03:55 PM #4
I don't think Murray deserves to be dropped for Stokes and Shaw should be drip fed in. Murray up front with our wingers pinging balls in for me.
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15-12-2017 03:59 PM #5
If we are going to play three up front again then one of the two who plays in front of Stokes has to be a poacher-finisher and nothing else. For other oldies, a bit like Steve Cowan. Put away chances and not be looking for a pass or a link up play .
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15-12-2017 04:18 PM #11Elephant StoneLeft by mutual consent!
I think Murray should be starting. Him and Stokes should be able to create a decent partnership anyway, Stokes' passing and link up play is very good and so is Murray's movement.
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15-12-2017 04:19 PM #12
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15-12-2017 04:21 PM #13
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Haha. To be fair I'll put my hands up with that one. Even if Stevenson did still have a lot to do from where murray passed it to him.
Shaw has cut open the defence with that ball to Boyle leaving him 1 on 1 with the goalie and Boyle had a lot less to do than lewy did.
So I guess their contributions to the game were similar. Both laid on one opportunity. Murray must do more.
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15-12-2017 04:29 PM #14
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I (and probably a few others) thought he was going to have a pop at the side netting
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15-12-2017 04:45 PM #16
Is there any way Stephen Dobbie could do half a season here? He is scoring for fun.
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15-12-2017 05:12 PM #18
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think Stephen Dobies family are in lytham be great to get him tho
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15-12-2017 06:16 PM #20
What’s Shaw done to merit a starting place? He looked way out his depth against the huns and shouldn’t be near the team just now.
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15-12-2017 06:25 PM #21
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Normally takes time for partnerships to form. It's obvious Stokes enjoys playing alongside Barker, just as he did Henderson and they form a more natural pairing. It might help if Neil played a consistent front 2 for a few games to help them along, but modern footie usually demands changing formations and rotating players.
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15-12-2017 06:27 PM #22
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Murray is missing a good few chances but at least he is getting into the box. He seems to be a bit of a streaky striker so he may just be a goal away from a decent run. At least you know you will have a very useful player on the park with Murray as he will defend from teh front and move defenders around creating space for others. He also makes runs in behind and has pace which tends to keep defenses honest and stop them pushing up and contracting the game. I don't think we have any striker who is playing well at present but Murray would be the first one on my team sheet and I would want to play Barker and Boyle. That gives us huge pace and movement and that will worry most teams. Stokes and Shaw may be better coming off the bench
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Only scored 2 goals in 30 odd games. Plus he was about 3 or 4 stone heavier back then. Skilful player though and has matured over the years.
That said, he’s 35 now. Is he our future? Nope.
Also if you look at his stats he’s only prolific with QotS. 149 games, 91 goals.
Add up the rest over about a dozen different teams. Approx 250 games. Only around 50 goals he hasn’t exactly set the heather on fire anywhere else he’s been.
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Maybe a bit early to be judging him that harshly. He can't have gone from hero to zero in 4 days.
Let's give the guy a few run outs and see how he gets on . He might be the new Kenny Miller yet!
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