Thought he was extremely poor last night, lost the ball in decent positions and his passing was quite poor. Seemed to make wrong decisions all night. Couple of nice balls and decent turns but we need more from our best player.
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Thread: John McGinn
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15-12-2017 12:35 AM #61
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15-12-2017 01:17 AM #62
It wasn't a game where he got an assist or a goal. Apart from that he was everywhere and trying to make things happen. The original post is reactionary at best.
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15-12-2017 02:23 AM #63
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Thought he had a good game, my only criticism would be his tendency this season to get caught in possession too often at the edge of our box when playing out. Against The Rangers he never hid and was a driving force. Always improving and teams now doubling up on him yet he still comes out on top.
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15-12-2017 06:22 AM #64
Disagree with the original poster, I thought McGinn was very good once again and how teams like Rangers can only dream of having a player like him these days.
I think we can forgive him for a couple of wayward passes but in my opinion that was due to how well organised and hard working Rangers were, which is painful to say.
Finally, that was an example of how good Hibs could be under Lennon and if we just up another signing level of a player and get another striker in, then it's all building nicely for 2018.
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15-12-2017 10:01 AM #65
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He has stepped up from playing in the Championship and is now facing more organised teams and better quality opponents. They are more able to read elements of his game, which leads to some of the things mentioned by several posts on here -caught in possession etc.
I agree with other posters that certain of Neil Lennon's team selections and formation have not helped him and he has been left exposed in some games. He would still be my first name on the Hibs team sheet each week.
In terms of bare stats this season I think its played 24 games, 4 goals scored and I'm struggling to find if he has actually had any assists. He has also picked up 9 yellow cards so far. So perhaps some evidence that he is adjusting to a higher level of play and expectation.
Happy to hear from other posters as to what elements of his overall game you think SJM has actually improved in this season from last, rather than just spout the predictable emotional comments of, clueless, pish, pash, drivel etc when you don't agree with something...I'm sure we are all intelligent enough to have a reasoned debate.
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15-12-2017 10:04 AM #66
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I think this has been his best season yet. He's much more consistent and even when he has a bad game he's still pretty decent IMO.
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15-12-2017 10:41 AM #67
Things can change very quickly in football.
It might not be very long before we're longing for a player to play as "badly" as John McGinn did on Wednesday night.
I actually don't think it does him (or us) any favours to take our set pieces. In open play he is generally superb, but his set piece deliveries really aren't great at all, so when you look back on a game it is easier to focus on a few ballooned crosses or sclaffed free-kicks than the many good contributions made during open play.Last edited by Smartie; 15-12-2017 at 10:43 AM.
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15-12-2017 02:00 PM #68This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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15-12-2017 03:41 PM #69This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I thought he was excellent on Wednesday night. He doesn't always find a man with his passes but he usually does. When he doesn't - it's generally because his job is to play the final, through ball which is the most difficult.
Obviously I'm not saying he can't improve - but he's doing extremely well for this stage in his career.
I really liked McGeouch's performance against The Rangers too but he played deeper. McGinn was the outstanding player on the pitch for me.
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15-12-2017 05:14 PM #70
Its like deja vu on the Stokes thread this thread, only slight difference is that SJM has more supporters than Stokes :-)
I bet you could go back to the advent of Hibs net and see similar debates on the best players of that time with some thinking they could do more and others thinking they can do no wrong.
As ever the truth probably lies in the middle.
Seems to me that the more you achieve, the more some folk expect of you to the point that nothing you can do satisfies them and anything less than a 10/10 performance each week leads to criticism.
Conversely for some other folk one good spell of form means you are exempt from criticism for all time.
My view SJM had a pretty up and down game, some very good, some poor and some okay.
Like many the regular sticking out of his arse infuriates me but SJM has a huge heart and balls of steel to try and do some of the things he does.
Its relatively simple to tackle anything and play non threatening passes whilst retaining possession but guys prepared to try something at at a premium and are often unjustly criticised when it doesn't pan out.
My criticism of SJM (and it is more of Neil Lennon) is that he is too often trying to do to many jobs by tracking back and tackling as well as trying to break forward and create things.
I would rather see SJM preserve his energy for forward forays and breaking forward to get beyond strikers which IMO this team badly lacks
I love having SJM at Hibs and probably more than anyone else on the books at present he is responsible for the reconnection between the support and the team.
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15-12-2017 08:10 PM #71
One of McGinns biggest strengths is also one of his biggest weaknesses imo
His strength
In some situations he is fantastic and can hold off boys, turn them and get away from them brilliantly
In others it’s like he is trying to show everyone how strong he is unnecessarily and instead of playing a simple pass he loses the ball, normally in threatening position.
It’s like he thinks no matter what position he is in or who he is against he can protect the ball and no one can get it off him.
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15-12-2017 08:12 PM #72
If we make enough threads about how ***** John McGinn is word should get around that he’s not worth signing. Genius plan guys.
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I worry that this criticism will turn him into Barry Ferguson - always taking the sideways pass and pointing, rather than taking risks and driving at opponents.
His decision making can definitely improve, but midfielders like him are rare enough already.
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15-12-2017 09:55 PM #74
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McGinn has been exceptional this season, made a few dodgy decisions against Rangers (trying to dribble through when a pass was a better option mainly) but also made a few great passes and runs with the ball. Will be a big loss when he goes as nobody else midfield wise seems to have that energy, strength and passing ability that McGinn has. Players like him are difficult to get, can we just appreciate him while he’s here instead of criticising him and saying he’s gone backwards after one dodgy game?
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16-12-2017 12:53 PM #75
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He is keek again today..mind you so are most of team mates...
Kenny McLean and Graeme Shinnie head and shoulders above our entire midfield.
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17-12-2017 09:39 AM #81
Willie Miller just loved telling radio listeners how good the Aberdeen Midfield were and how poor S J M was
Calling into question how S J M is international and none of the Aberdeen Midfield are
We just love to try and bring players down when they have been doing well
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17-12-2017 09:44 AM #82
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True Ronnie...but on yesterday's performance alone it was fair. Shinnie looked a class above them all - McGinn and McGeouch looked like young boys. During it, I said to my mate that it reminded me of a young Barry Ferguson getting schooled in the art of the game by Sauzee at ER years ago...
Hopefully it will fire them up to do the same back when they come back too our place.
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17-12-2017 11:20 AM #83This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
If we did that, we'd be 2nd not 4th.
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The other thing that Hibs have been poor at for season upon season is getting midfield runners beyond the ball carrier .... watch the best teams, when they have a midfielder on the ball guys are sprinting past him looking for a forward pass, in fact Aberdeen did that to great effect more than once on Saturday. That's why in games against the likes of Ross County I would prefer to see Slivka or Fraser Murray on the pitch ... in fact Murray has shown in the games I have seen him play that getting in advance of the ball is something he is very good at, probably the most forward thinking midfield player we have and I would like to see him get a chance to prove it.
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