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    We set up completely wrong.

    Frustrating one tonight. Poor team selection tonight. Always felt we looked in first half especially imbalanced and light in middle of park. Stokes Murray and shaw was a horrible decision IMO. Second half much better once barker was on the left, Boyle on the right. We play our best and have abit of balance to the side when we go with the out and out wide players.

    That being said, the 2nd goal especially was shooting ourselves in the foot.


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    Frustrating one tonight. Poor team selection tonight. Always felt we looked in first half especially imbalanced and light in middle of park. Stokes Murray and shaw was a horrible decision IMO. Second half much better once barker was on the left, Boyle on the right. We play our best and have abit of balance to the side when we go with the out and out wide players.

    That being said, the 2nd goal especially was shooting ourselves in the foot.
    You are joking. We have never ever, in my 40 years watching Hibs vs The Rangers dominated a match more....

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    Not playing 3 CMs was a very bad decision

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    Was a mental team selection. The twice that Rangers managed to string a couple of passes together they scored and we were a mess. Should’ve stuck with our usual lineup as our performance in the second half showed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RossScott1991 View Post
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    Frustrating one tonight. Poor team selection tonight. Always felt we looked in first half especially imbalanced and light in middle of park. Stokes Murray and shaw was a horrible decision IMO. Second half much better once barker was on the left, Boyle on the right. We play our best and have abit of balance to the side when we go with the out and out wide players.

    That being said, the 2nd goal especially was shooting ourselves in the foot.
    Agree. Worked for first 20 then Rangers figured us out. Always think Bartley should play in these games. 2nd half we were far better.

    Having said all that, we were the better team tonight and were robbed by a ludicrous decision to not give us a penalty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eesti View Post
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    You are joking. We have never ever, in my 40 years watching Hibs vs The Rangers dominated a match more....
    You must have missed a fair few Hibs Rangers games in recent years then.

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    Its a strange one when we've completely controlled the game from start to finish.

    Apart from a daft 5 minutes which certainly cost us, we played very very well.

    I'd have started with different personnel, but that is a game we could have won handsomely, yet didn't and the team will be questioned.

    Maybe sometimes you just dont get what you should or deserve, although a cheating linesman certainly does not help.

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    You must have missed a fair few Hibs Rangers games in recent years then.
    Nope. But the performance tonight was very good and I still thought that we dominated till the end.

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    Analysing the goals, neither was the result of the formation. The first was Ambrose coming in from right back trying to win s header he never could and then Windass being free. Second was poor from Hanlon but either Stevenson or McGinn should have gone to help him. As for Rocky, dreadful for the second.

    That said, Shaw was totally ineffective. Barker made a huge difference when he came on.

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    7 games in December meant we were always going to rotate the squad and injuries accelerated this. 3 down and 1 win 1 draw, 1 loss. 7 or 8 points (or more) from the final 4 would cement our position going into the break.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eesti View Post
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    Nope. But the performance tonight was very good and I still thought that we dominated till the end.
    We may have been the better team tonight, but we have hammered them several times with far more dominating displays.

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    We may have been the better team tonight, but we have hammered them several times with far more dominating displays.
    The goal that lost us the game was a shocker; Young Oli too easily knocked off the ball, Hanlon gets skinned, Rocky beaten at his front post. That aside, we played superbly and were by far the better team. But none of our strikers looked like scoring, and so, for the umpteenth time this season, we dominate a game yet don't get the result. Shaw has tremendous potential, but Murray was dreadful tonight and Stokes simply never looks likely to score, unless from the penalty spot (of course, he should have been given that chance this evening).

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    Of course it doesn’t help when Boyle ignores two standing unmarked in the middle of the box and has a go himself when Foderingham has already narrowed the angle.Two nil then and they would have collapsed.

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    I think part of the problem is not just this game but our general failure to kill off teams.

    We need to start keeping far more clean sheets than we do and our chances to goals ratio is poor.

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    We were the better team and I’m all for attacking football but 3 strikers on from the start. We still couldn’t score the bucket load of chances we made.

    Can’t remember once shaw or Murray passed to one another. The Rangers set up against us like Dumbarton and most championship teams did last season with 11 men behind the ball and hit us on the break. We were without doubt the better team but we seriously need a very good goal scoring poacher.

    2-1 down and Murray off for Whittaker. Not what I would have done but then I don’t get paid to make these calls. NL had us playing well tonight of that there is no question but please Hibs all I want for Christmas is a poacher in the box.

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    Too soon for Shaw. Tin hat. Bartley should have been deployed instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ancient hibee View Post
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    Of course it doesn’t help when Boyle ignores two standing unmarked in the middle of the box and has a go himself when Foderingham has already narrowed the angle.Two nil then and they would have collapsed.
    Without doubt a game changing moment - that goes in its a whole different game. You saw the visible lift they got from not going 2 down. Terrific move too, Shaw’s ball inch perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eesti View Post
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    You are joking. We have never ever, in my 40 years watching Hibs vs The Rangers dominated a match more....
    We dominate yes, but my point is I think we would have been more effective if we had gone for our tried and trusted set up.

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    What is our tried and trusted set up. Lennon changes personnel and shape every few weeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by wookie70 View Post
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    What is our tried and trusted set up. Lennon changes personnel and shape every few weeks
    My personal opinion is the team that beat hearts. Obviously few changes here and there, however Stokes, Shaw and Murray all in same lineup was first time to try all 3 in team from start and I didn’t think tonight’s game was the one to experiment on.

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    It's a common theme in the big games under Lennon sadly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Northernhibee View Post
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    It's a common theme in the big games under Lennon sadly.
    Played Celtic, drawn twice
    Played The Rangers, won one, lost one
    Played Aberdeen, lost one
    Played Hearts, won one.
    Played Motherwell, drawn one, won one

    Where is the common theme in these big games because for me it shows we are doing not too bad against our main rivals ? Only two defeats in eight in that selection.

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    Nothing wrong with the tactics tonight, imho. We were very good and totally dominant, if we'd won by two or three The Rangers would have had no complaints.

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    I have no complaints about the team tonight. But for a very good performance by Foderingham and a diabolical performance from Clancy, we would have won that game comfortably. We just didn't get our just rewards tonight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matty_f View Post
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    Nothing wrong with the tactics tonight, imho. We were very good and totally dominant, if we'd won by two or three The Rangers would have had no complaints.
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    Played Celtic, drawn twice
    Played The Rangers, won one, lost one
    Played Aberdeen, lost one
    Played Hearts, won one.
    Played Motherwell, drawn one, won one

    Where is the common theme in these big games because for me it shows we are doing not too bad against our main rivals ? Only two defeats in eight in that selection.
    Totally agree. We were a poaching striker away from a convincing win tonight. We are a work in progress but the progress is all in the right direction.

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    "Set up wrong." We should've been 3 up by the time rangers scored!! If Boyle squares it we are 2-0 up and cruising


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    Astonishing to say that "we set up completely wrong".

    We hammered Rangers. Had it been a boxing match it would have been stopped on points.

    With hindsight he probably shouldn't have started with Shaw..........but the young lad was rewarded for his goals against Celtic with a starting place tonight

    Goalie had a mare, we hit the post twice, stonewall pen denied...............we would've been waxing lyrical about the set up had these freakish acts of god gone the other way !

    We lick our wounds and move on


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    Quote Originally Posted by matty_f View Post
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    Nothing wrong with the tactics tonight, imho. We were very good and totally dominant, if we'd won by two or three The Rangers would have had no complaints.


    We showed up well in both halves. Add that to the performance against Celtc, especially in the last twenty, and we are a team that's performing well.

    I think we will kick on in the second half, as we've shown we've got no fear against anyone else.

    Early days yet, but we are sitting well-placed in fourth. By my rough recall, we've managed a top four finish only six times in the last forty years. It's about time we started improving on that and with this manager and this squad, in this league, I feel confident we can do so. Top four and aiming for better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye View Post
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    We showed up well in both halves. Add that to the performance against Celtc, especially in the last twenty, and we are a team that's performing well.

    I think we will kick on in the second half, as we've shown we've got no fear against anyone else.

    Early days yet, but we are sitting well-placed in fourth. By my rough recall, we've managed a top four finish only six times in the last forty years. It's about time we started improving on that and with this manager and this squad, in this league, I feel confident we can do so. Top four and aiming for better.
    There's a big difference between performing well & picking up points. I know what I'd rather be doing.

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