Whittaker

**Thecat23** · 10-12-2017 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by cleanyman

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Barker was worse.

Eh? Barker played well today. 😳

***easty*** · 10-12-2017 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by Billy Whizz

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He’s not a liability, man’s injured.

I've nae doubt he is injured, but today he was a liability, and I was surprised he was given so long on the park.

***Vault Boy*** · 10-12-2017 04:05 PM

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Eh? Barker played well today. 😳

I thought so too. He defended well for a very attack minded player.

**Thecat23** · 10-12-2017 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by easty

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I've nae doubt he is injured, but today he was a liability, and I was surprised he was given so long on the park.

Shouldn’t have been near the first 11. To then say he isn’t fully fit makes it even more baffling!

***GreenNWhiteArmy*** · 10-12-2017 04:07 PM

Played poor against the most effective winger/forward in the last 18 months in Scottish football.

I prefer him in a right wing back position

***Kojock*** · 10-12-2017 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by Billy Whizz

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He’s not a liability, man’s injured.

So why was he playing? surely Ambrose right back and McGregor in the middle should've been formation.

**MWHIBBIES** · 10-12-2017 04:10 PM

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Whittaker is a liability. Gray is missed right now.

Gray is also a liability, he was subbed at half time last time we played Celtic.

***Jack Hackett*** · 10-12-2017 04:15 PM

I have a lot of time for Whitty, but he's obviously not fit and I'll be surprised... and dismayed, if he's on the team sheet against the zombies

***Fergus52*** · 10-12-2017 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by Jack Hackett

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I have a lot of time for Whitty, but he's obviously not fit and I'll be surprised... and dismayed, if he's on the team sheet against the zombies

Windass gave him a tough time at ibrox, if he's not fully fit it could be even worse this time. If we're going to play a back four I'd defo be sticking Efe at RB.

**number9dream** · 10-12-2017 04:23 PM

Maybe go 3-5-2 on Wednesday, with Boyle and Stevenson wide. Ambrose was our best player today and we need the big man mopping up in the middle.
Stokes and Shaw up top from the start. Daz joining Hanlon & Efe, with Barker & Whittaker dropping out.

***Arch Stanton*** · 10-12-2017 04:26 PM

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I have a lot of time for Whitty, but he's obviously not fit and I'll be surprised... and dismayed, if he's on the team sheet against the zombies

I think our upcoming game on Wed must have played a part in today's team selection - playing Whitty and Stokes, neither of whom I expect to start on Wed.

***Hermit Crab*** · 10-12-2017 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by Winston Ingram

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Was absolutely hopeless today.

Sinclair ripped him every time he got the ball. He was never the quickest but now looks even slower and more cumbersome than ever before.

There’s no doubting his quality on the ball but we really are going to have to consider whether he’s capable of playing quick tricky wide players. I bet Murty is praying he starts this week as Windass will have the same sort of joy against him as Sinclair had today.

To be fair he was injured but he wasn't the only one, Stevenson, McGeoch, Hanlon etc all poor until we scored then they started to believe again!

**andybev1** · 10-12-2017 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by cleanyman

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Barker was worse.

Barker plated great first half when on my side at least.

**Lago** · 10-12-2017 04:35 PM

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Barker was worse.

You know I was about to say exactly that, he was an absolute passenger with only one decent run, I would have put Murray out there to run at them.

**Lago** · 10-12-2017 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by Thecat23

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Eh? Barker played well today. 😳

No he didn't.

***Stuart93*** · 10-12-2017 04:38 PM

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Eh? Barker played well today. 😳

What game could people have been watching to say barker played well, never beat a man all game and when he did his final ball was awful, didn't even look interested

**andybev1** · 10-12-2017 04:38 PM

I think we played too negatively today. I saw forwards wanting players to move up at times but they obviously had their orders to stay back - inviting Celtic to keep coming forward will only result in one thing and it did. We gave a Celtic team that did not look like they fancied it today too much respect and I am positive we could have won if we had given them less respect.

***JohnMcM*** · 10-12-2017 04:38 PM

IMO

Whittaker, compared to what he was, is now slower on the take up, slower to turn and (seems to be favouring his right hip?)

He is not the same player we had all that time ago.

He is prone to much more loose play than he ever was and not as quick to cover anyone else caught out of position.

That sad, he is experienced, good on his day and good squad player.

I prefer guys like Darren McG who seem to give what Whittaker has lost, even though Whittaker makes up in experience what he has lost.

Edit: Just contradicted myself, but I think you know what I mean, huh?

***Malthibby*** · 10-12-2017 04:38 PM

Got to assume that Lennon wanted him there for the shape so you could argue he was hung out to dry because he was struggling from kick-off.
Clearly not fit & probably shouldn't have been on the pitch, but with Gray out just now our options are limited.
Great game though..
GG

***greenlex*** · 10-12-2017 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by Hermit Crab

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To be fair he was injured but he wasn't the only one, Stevenson, McGeoch, Hanlon etc all poor until we scored then they started to believe again!

Rubbish. McGeouch I’ll give you but the other two hardly put a fit wrong all game.

**~~cleanyman~~** · 10-12-2017 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by greenlex

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Rubbish. McGeouch I’ll give you but the other two hardly put a fit wrong all game.

Stevenson's pass completion must have been at about 50 percent. It either went out of play or he humped it up the park.

**andybev1** · 10-12-2017 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by Stuart93

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What game could people have been watching to say barker played well, *never beat a man all game and when he did his final ball was awful, didn't even look interested

not true to say e did not beat a man all game he got to the line and got crosses in but, ok, they came to nothing. I hear people saying barker is no good a lot of the time when I see him doing ok. opinions being like arsholes eh!
(everyone has one)

*you contradicted yourself here - cannot have it both ways - be fair to the guy

***Hibeewilly*** · 10-12-2017 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by crabis

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I think our upcoming game on Wed must have played a part in today's team selection - playing Whitty and Stokes, neither of whom I expect to start on Wed.

Why would you not expect Stokes to start on Wednesday? Against The Rangers....surely the first name on the team sheet

***JohnMcM*** · 10-12-2017 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by Hermit Crab

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To be fair he was injured but he wasn't the only one, Stevenson, McGeoch, Hanlon etc all poor until we scored then they started to believe again!

Really? Is that what you saw today?

I know we are all entitled to our own opinions here, however Hermit, we are polar opposites on your assessment there mate.

Funny old game isn't it.

***Hermit Crab*** · 10-12-2017 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by greenlex

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Rubbish. McGeouch I’ll give you but the other two hardly put a fit wrong all game.

All Stevenson did in the first half was give the ball away! He was better in the second half.

***Arch Stanton*** · 10-12-2017 04:51 PM

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Why would you not expect Stokes to start on Wednesday? Against The Rangers....surely the first name on the team sheet

If he had a stroll through the park today then yes I would pick him but I wouldn't omit Murray to do so.

***Brightside*** · 10-12-2017 04:56 PM

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To be fair he was injured but he wasn't the only one, Stevenson, McGeoch, Hanlon etc all poor until we scored then they started to believe again!

Dylan had a couple of poor passes and was obv chasing shadows for a lot of the game, but I didn’t see a poor performance from the other two.

***JohnM1875*** · 10-12-2017 04:56 PM

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All Stevenson did in the first half was give the ball away! He was better in the second half.

Haha! Forgetting the last ditch tackle on Forrest when he was through 1 on 1 then aye?

***neil7908*** · 10-12-2017 05:07 PM

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Don’t think people realise how quick Sinclair actually is

If Whittaker had an injury that's one thing but for both Celtic goals and earlier in the game when Sinclair got round him only for Marciano to save, Sinclair didn't have to do anything to get past him. No tricks, turns, skills etc. Whittaker just watched him go by.

I've defended him for much of this season but he looked very poor today. Can only hope the injury was a big factor.

A 3 year deal isn't looking great at the moment though.