Whittaker

***Winston Ingram*** · 10-12-2017 03:23 PM

Was absolutely hopeless today.

Sinclair ripped him every time he got the ball. He was never the quickest but now looks even slower and more cumbersome than ever before.

There’s no doubting his quality on the ball but we really are going to have to consider whether he’s capable of playing quick tricky wide players. I bet Murty is praying he starts this week as Windass will have the same sort of joy against him as Sinclair had today.

**~~The_Horde~~** · 10-12-2017 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by Winston Ingram

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Was absolutely hopeless today.

Sinclair ripped him every time he got the ball. He was never the quickest but now looks even slower and more cumbersome than ever before.

There’s no doubting his quality on the ball but we really are going to have to consider whether he’s capable of playing quick tricky wide players. I bet Murty is praying he starts this week as Windass will have the same sort of joy against him as Sinclair had today.

Injured. Not fully fit and had no help.

***Brightside*** · 10-12-2017 03:31 PM

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Injured. Not fully fit and had no help.

He had a lot of help. He's just done. Boyle spent too long in our half helping him out. RB is our weakest position now with the current issues with DG and SW

***KeithTheHibby*** · 10-12-2017 03:52 PM

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Injured. Not fully fit and had no help.

Well surely play McGregor if that’s the case? SW was very poor today. I know he was up against Sinclair however was still poor.
Will be surprised if he sees out his 3 year deal.

***Mon Dieu4*** · 10-12-2017 03:24 PM

Or maybe as far as Scottish football goes Sinclair is actually really really good, it happens

**heretoday** · 10-12-2017 03:26 PM

Whittaker is a liability. Gray is missed right now.

***Billy Whizz*** · 10-12-2017 03:26 PM

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Whittaker is a liability. Gray is missed right now.

He’s not a liability, man’s injured.

***easty*** · 10-12-2017 04:03 PM

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He’s not a liability, man’s injured.

I've nae doubt he is injured, but today he was a liability, and I was surprised he was given so long on the park.

**Thecat23** · 10-12-2017 04:06 PM

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I've nae doubt he is injured, but today he was a liability, and I was surprised he was given so long on the park.

Shouldn’t have been near the first 11. To then say he isn’t fully fit makes it even more baffling!

***Kojock*** · 10-12-2017 04:09 PM

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He’s not a liability, man’s injured.

So why was he playing? surely Ambrose right back and McGregor in the middle should've been formation.

**Ronniekirk** · 10-12-2017 09:16 PM

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He’s not a liability, man’s injured.

Today Billy he was a Liability Agree probably carrying an injury but was never comfortable and made us vulneranlevdown that flank

***Mibbes Aye*** · 10-12-2017 10:03 PM

I think there were a number of errors, in varying number, by almost all the team today. Partly that's the nature of football but we shouldn't forget that this is a strong Celtc team who are good enough to create the conditions that lead to mistakes by the opposition.

As a counterpoint I couldn't believe how often we won possession from challenges and intercepted passes. It is rewarding for the players to see what their endeavour can lead to.

With Whittaker specifically, he didn't look quite right today. If he's carrying a pelvic injury then that will obviously impact on pace, but hopefully it's a temporary state of affairs. I'm sure he's meant to be a good trainer who looks after himself, which bodes well. For me, his biggest plus points are that technically he is proficient - very good feet, he seems to have a good attitude and he has bags of experience at a level that means he should be very comfortable in our games, if fully fit.

**MWHIBBIES** · 10-12-2017 04:10 PM

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Whittaker is a liability. Gray is missed right now.

Gray is also a liability, he was subbed at half time last time we played Celtic.

***Jack Hackett*** · 10-12-2017 04:15 PM

I have a lot of time for Whitty, but he's obviously not fit and I'll be surprised... and dismayed, if he's on the team sheet against the zombies

***Fergus52*** · 10-12-2017 04:16 PM

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I have a lot of time for Whitty, but he's obviously not fit and I'll be surprised... and dismayed, if he's on the team sheet against the zombies

Windass gave him a tough time at ibrox, if he's not fully fit it could be even worse this time. If we're going to play a back four I'd defo be sticking Efe at RB.

***Arch Stanton*** · 10-12-2017 04:26 PM

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I have a lot of time for Whitty, but he's obviously not fit and I'll be surprised... and dismayed, if he's on the team sheet against the zombies

I think our upcoming game on Wed must have played a part in today's team selection - playing Whitty and Stokes, neither of whom I expect to start on Wed.

***Jones28*** · 11-12-2017 09:10 AM

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Whittaker is a liability. Gray is missed right now.

He's injured and playing against one of the quickest streaks of pish in the league.

**FilipinoHibs** · 11-12-2017 09:13 AM

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He's injured and playing against one of the quickest streaks of pish in the league.

Whittaker like that in first spell with us. Good coming forward and plays nice triangles. Easily turned on the defensive role. Balance is not good.

***Jones28*** · 11-12-2017 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by SingHibs

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Whittaker like that in first spell with us. Good coming forward and plays nice triangles. Easily turned on the defensive role. Balance is not good.

If he wasn't good enough defensively he wouldn't have played at the level he has, at least not as a right back.

***Vault Boy*** · 10-12-2017 03:31 PM

I said when we signed him that I was glad to see him back but that Gray is a significantly better defender, a few disagreed which is fair enough but I'd stand by that statement. He's been pretty decent usually but his biggest weakness for years has been letting players cut inside him and playing a team like Celtic only highlights that issue. Still a very decent signing and good player in the squad.

**ancient hibee** · 10-12-2017 03:35 PM

I can never understand when we have a good result that postersimmediately come on here to criticise our players.Whittaker was not fit but went out to do his best because that was what was needed.

***Allant1981*** · 10-12-2017 03:49 PM

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I can never understand when we have a good result that postersimmediately come on here to criticise our players.Whittaker was not fit but went out to do his best because that was what was needed.

being fit had nothing to do with some of those passes or marking today, thats just being poor

**Thecat23** · 10-12-2017 03:50 PM

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being fit had nothing to do with some of those passes or marking today, thats just being poor

Correct.

**Borderhibbie76** · 10-12-2017 07:32 PM

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I can never understand when we have a good result that postersimmediately come on here to criticise our players.Whittaker was not fit but went out to do his best because that was what was needed.

Sorry but that's rubbish mate
..he was badly at fault for both Celtic goals and the offside Sinclair goal. If he's injured then our manager should not be playing him...but for me he is well past it...slow as a wet week and cannot defend to save himself

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***overdrive*** · 10-12-2017 03:25 PM

He shouldn’t have been playing. He’s clearly not fit. I hope we play Ambrose at right back on Wednesday with McGregor at centre half.

**S4uzee** · 10-12-2017 03:26 PM

Don’t think people realise how quick Sinclair actually is

***neil7908*** · 10-12-2017 05:07 PM

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Don’t think people realise how quick Sinclair actually is

If Whittaker had an injury that's one thing but for both Celtic goals and earlier in the game when Sinclair got round him only for Marciano to save, Sinclair didn't have to do anything to get past him. No tricks, turns, skills etc. Whittaker just watched him go by.

I've defended him for much of this season but he looked very poor today. Can only hope the injury was a big factor.

A 3 year deal isn't looking great at the moment though.

Nameless · 10-12-2017 03:28 PM

Lennon confirmed Whitty has a pelvic problem, and has been suffering for most of the season. If that's how he plays injured, he will be a fine addition to the team when fully fit.

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**HoboHarry** · 10-12-2017 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by Winston Ingram

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Was absolutely hopeless today.

Sinclair ripped him every time he got the ball. He was never the quickest but now looks even slower and more cumbersome than ever before.

There’s no doubting his quality on the ball but we really are going to have to consider whether he’s capable of playing quick tricky wide players. I bet Murty is praying he starts this week as Windass will have the same sort of joy against him as Sinclair had today.

That's the spirit....😴