OK. A thread for wee things that caught your attention and have maybe shown stuff from a different angle.
I was thinking mostly music (behind the scenes stuff, stories behind songs, how stuff was written, etc.), but it can be anything really.
The interweb is full of wee gems (as well as a lot of keech). It doesn't have to be mind-blowing, just interesting.
I'll start - Mike Barson from madness explaining the structure of the classic "My Girl".
https://youtu.be/dmSZ4gdv4KA
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03-12-2017 10:22 AM #1
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03-12-2017 01:26 PM #2
Layla by derek and the dominoes, is supposed to have been written by Clapton about his strong feelings for his friend George harrison’s then wife Patty.
there’s an urban legend that whilst Harrison wrote ‘while my guitar gently weeps’, he couldn’t quite get the solo right when the Beatles were recording it. McCartney and Lennon were apparently being a bit smartarsed about it, and eventually suggested ‘why don’t you ask your pal Eric (Clapton) to give it a try?’
After some time driving around looking for Clapton, he found him, fairly worse for wear and on cocaine. Arriving back at the studio, Clapton, with McCartney and Lennon watching on, nailed the solo first time, and it’s supposedly Clapton on the studio recording performing the solo.
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04-12-2017 11:26 AM #3
Good thread, probably belongs in the holy ground though.
To me, Kurt Cobain was probably one of the most misunderstood artists I can think of. It's epitomised by the classic anthem for teenage rebellion "smells like teen spirit" where the "teen spirit" was actually a brand of deodorant.
He was bullied mercilessly at school and as a result, hung about with girls and gays. Seeing how the world oppressed these groups first hand, he held very stong feminist, anti-homophobic and anti-racist views.
Very angry, and not being able to do physically do anything about it, he found a scene he could relate to in English punk music. Lots of the power chords and progressions found in his music are modelled on that style and he basically considered his music punk rather than "grunge".
He also liked the Beatles and one night he locked himself in a room with only a guitar and a copy of "with the Beatles" determined to produce a song. "About a girl" was the result.
That song, and one that caused a lot of controversy at the time,"rape me", was actually about women's rights and his disgust with the way an overtly masculine society behaved towards them. In the latter, he felt he was tired of skirting around the issue this was his unsuccessful attempt to make it obvious.
For contrast, Guns n Roses were recording a song called "Rocket Queen" where they wanted to have a girl moaning as if she was having sex. Their guitarists girlfriend was in the studio and after being cojoled and persuaded with bottles of whiskey, she agreed to have sex with Axl Rose in the studio while microphones recorded her noises for use on the track.
Kurt Cobain detested Guns n Roses for some reason.
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06-12-2017 01:50 AM #4This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I was never a big fan but they were punk as anything and their songs were very misunderstood.
A few years ago his daughter was asked if she listened to her father's music and she said no. I saw a few articles saying "her father was a musical genius" etc etc. It's not hard for anyone to understand why she doesn't surely?
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07-12-2017 01:19 AM #5This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
You could say they were more punk than the bands they idolised, like ones that were handed $1000 Gibson’s and who’s raison d’etre was to sell clothes.
Totally understand about his daughter who maybe resents the music. Maybe she’ll learn to appreciate it, and therefore try understand her dad a bit more when she’s older.
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17-12-2017 07:35 PM #6This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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04-12-2017 11:45 AM #7
Where to begin with Dylan but the lyrics to Positively 4th Street are scathing. Lots of rumoured subjects of the tirade but generally thought to be a general F off to the fokies who criticised him for plugging his guitar in.
Positively 4th Street https://g.co/kgs/ukEdhg
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05-12-2017 03:24 AM #8
Kiss them for me by siouxee and the banshees. Always liked it as a beautiful piece of music but recently dug a bit further into it's meaning
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05-12-2017 07:00 PM #9
The opening chord in "A Hard Day's Night".
http://www.openculture.com/2011/12/g...ays_night.html
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05-12-2017 07:15 PM #10
Dmitri Shostakovich permeated his music with a progression of D-E flat-C-B.
When expressed phonetically in German, it represented his name D-S-C-H
Fuller, more technical explanation here, with audio clips
Bach did something similar with his fugues I believe.There's only one thing better than a Hibs calendar and that's two Hibs calendars
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05-12-2017 08:54 PM #11This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It puts me in mind of one Sunday afternoon in Gordon Duncan's house. One of my mates was mucking about with a guitar that had been lying in a corner when Gordon stopped him, asking what chord he'd just played. The next 5 minutes were spent finding what had been played then figuring it out - an F sharp minor with a G in it or something, which Gordon scribbled down then half wrote a tune from it (to be completed, or not, later) . An astonishing talent.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Duncan
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05-12-2017 11:01 PM #12
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod...howard-goodall
I watched this a few months ago.
The music geek in me absolutely adored it. Such a well-known album but having heard it so many times it is hard to appreciate how ground-breaking it was at the time, and it was brilliant to get the inside track on all of the techniques they used.
I always thought the voice in Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds sounded strangely high-pitched, I didn't realise that this was by design.
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05-12-2017 11:15 PM #13This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Not afraid of some simple double entendre either, as his series "Howard Goodall's Organ Works" showed. The boy should have been on the calendar thread.There's only one thing better than a Hibs calendar and that's two Hibs calendars
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17-12-2017 02:18 PM #14
The saxophone riff in Gerry Rafferty's Baker Street was written and performed by fellow Scot Raphael Ravenscroft. He wasn't attributed a writing credit so never received any royalties. Instead he got a standard session fee - a cheque for £27. It bounced.
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17-12-2017 02:40 PM #15This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Cat Stevens forgot to pay him. Years later, when RW dug him up about it, CS offered to pay it right away. RW declined, on the grounds that he'd told the story so many times over the years.... and didn't want to stop
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17-12-2017 03:48 PM #21This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/m...-sax-solo.html
The truth probably lies somewhere in between.
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17-12-2017 07:39 PM #22
Glenn Campbell* played the lead part on the Monkees’ I’m a Believer.
* I can’t be the only person who wants the BBC’s political reporter to sing Rhinestone Cowboy when they cut to him?
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18-12-2017 02:48 PM #23This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
(The instrumental intro).Last edited by snooky; 18-12-2017 at 07:06 PM.
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18-12-2017 04:37 PM #24This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
And You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling.
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