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30-11-2017 06:34 PM #31
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Basically, Christians, both women and men have beliefs which can be dismissed by the general public without any real reproach. If the same level if disrespect was shown to other religions I feel more of a fuss would be made about it.
Separate to that, I feel men also get a bum deal in many ways without having the ability to bring out the 'I'm only being treated like this because I'm....', line.
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30-11-2017 09:16 PM #33This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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30-11-2017 09:29 PM #34
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30-11-2017 09:34 PM #35This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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I suppose they could have had Moses reading out the "10 commandments of eating a sausage roll", with a Santa hat on. That would have worked as well as the one the actually used.
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01-12-2017 07:31 AM #37This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Even if you don't believe the bible is inspired by divine intervention if you read the New Testament the bits of it which are directly attributed to Jesus, which is a tiny proportion of the book, are pretty interesting .... stuff like you should "love one another" and "turn the other cheek" seem to be very much at odds with the idea that Christianity is responsible for so much evil, which there's no denying a lot of its alleged practitioners throughout history have been.
That's the bibles big drawback I suppose, it is open to interpretation in large parts and in cases like that folk will pick and choose the bits that suit them, a lot of the time to the detriment of what it is supposed to represent. From what I've seen and read the Koran appears to be no different.
I suppose what I'm trying to say is totally dismissing all aspects of religion is kind of throwing the baby out with the bathwater .... there's plenty of examples of people driven by their religion doing wonderful things to the benefit of their fellow man, often at huge cost to themselves. And yes, I know you don't need religion to be a good selfless person.
The funny thing about the bible is that it predicts its own downfall ...... As the modern era progresses religion is indeed becoming less and less popular and in the psyche of the worlds population less and less relevant, especially in the 'developed' world. You often get church leaders on the telly bemoaning falling congregations and the general turning away from 'the faith' .... I'm surprised at their surprise because if they bothered to thumb through their copy of the New Testament they might notice that that's exactly what it says will happen
Anyway ......... how is this a 'flag debate' ... c'mon folksLast edited by NAE NOOKIE; 01-12-2017 at 07:35 AM.
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01-12-2017 08:00 AM #38
If people use religion as a vessel for their own prejudices and intolerance then they are fair game for both opposition and being made the target of jokes. Many religious people I seem to encounter appear to use their religious beliefs as a mask for their own hypocrisy. Whether I believe that Jesus was God made man or a slightly eccentric hippy who patrolled the Middle East 2000 or so years ago is irrelevant; my view has always been that were he around today he would be far more concerned with the continuing war, drought and famine, slavery, religious and political corruption and preventable disease and death than he would with whether 2 men love, or lust after, each other. I can't help but think he would be more, or at least as, affronted by people harassing vulnerable and emotional women outside abortion clinics in his name than he would be with what was going on inside. The Bible is about as clear that eating shellfish is forbidden as it is about homosexuality yet I rarely see people protesting outside restaurants that sell prawn cocktail or harassing people buying lobsters. As I say it's hypocrisy, because to live life exactly as the Bible commands would lead to all kinds of contradictions, and it's worthy of both debate and to be made fun of. I extend that to all religions as well. Whether that is the Imams preaching a hateful version of Islam by selectively choosing the verses of the Quran they follow and how they interpret them, the single mindedness of the ultra conservative Jewish movements or cuddly Buddhism being exposed in all it's glory as the legend of Aang San Suu Kyi unravels before our eyes with the crisis of the Rohingya in Myanmar.
Of course Christianity is the butt of more jokes in this country. It's the religion most of us have grown up with and it's still a visible presence in most of our lives to some degree. Our head of state is still the head of the Anglican church and the PM still advises her on religious appointments. We still have Christian programming on TV on a weekly basis. The reason most of us can laugh about jokes or acknowledge criticisms about Christianity is because we can relate to them and we may have experienced the issues being spoken about.PM Awards General Poster of The Year 2015, 2016, 2017. Probably robbed in other years
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01-12-2017 08:13 AM #39
I inadvertantly clicked on page 2 of this rather than 1, and I find it absolutely amusing reading the content vs thread title! I'm now going back to page 1 to see how the **** we got here
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01-12-2017 08:28 AM #40This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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01-12-2017 01:13 PM #42This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I've made a stollen which should be ready on Sunday and a ton of mincemeat for pies.
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