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    Midfield Berth (Daft Old Football Sayings)

    Why are ‘berths’ - places where people sleep on ships- always related to midfield rather than defense or strikers?


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    Defenders can't be in a berth because they are at the heart of it.

    Strikers, meanwhile, are looking for the line and aiming to lead it.

    Edit: do full backs have berths or something else?

    Keepers just want to be given The Gloves and don't care about a berth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacomo View Post
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    Defenders can't be in a berth because they are at the heart of it.

    Strikers, meanwhile, are looking for the line and aiming to lead it.

    Edit: do full backs have berths or something else?

    Keepers just want to be given The Gloves and don't care about a berth.


    Surely keepers also want to patrol their boxes?

    And of course not all midfielders want to occupy a berth, the best ones spend their time trying to fill the Matty Jack role.

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    Quote Originally Posted by One Day Soon View Post
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    Surely keepers also want to patrol their boxes?

    And of course not all midfielders want to occupy a berth, the best ones spend their time trying to fill the Matty Jack role.
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    Some strikers would rather play in the hole

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    Trawling the Leith san siro,SJM is our midfield general.

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    Strikers slot home. Can a striker fill a striker's slot? If so, scoring would be slotting from a slot.

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    Whatever happened to the pivot?

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    Ron Atkinson during his ITV years, before he was sacked for a racist tirade, was full of such sayings.

    The back stick - the far post.
    The reducer - a crunching tackle.
    Going vertical - jumping for the ball.
    The lollipop - a step-over before crossing the ball.
    Giving him the eyes - making it difficult for an opponent to read the play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Whatever happened to the pivot?
    Was that a dance in the seventies?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba View Post
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    Ron Atkinson during his ITV years, before he was sacked for a racist tirade, was full of such sayings.
    Pretty sure there wasn't any tirade. Iirc he used one unacceptable word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacomo View Post
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    Defenders can't be in a berth because they are at the heart of it.

    Strikers, meanwhile, are looking for the line and aiming to lead it.

    Edit: do full backs have berths or something else?

    Keepers just want to be given The Gloves and don't care about a berth.
    Yes, I think full backs have berths too. Perhaps the modern fashion for full backs to play more like midfielders than defenders is just an attempt to standardise the lexicon.

    There's a great book called Football Cliches that covers loads of this stuff. Here's an extract from it cataloguing 73 types of goal: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/the-f...re-a-goal.html.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nonshinyfinish View Post
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    There's a great book called Football Cliches that covers loads of this stuff. Here's an extract from it cataloguing 73 types of goal: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/the-f...re-a-goal.html.
    Can't see it there but presume this'll be in the book: ball hitting the back of the net = goal. It's certainly not a goal if the ball hits the back of the net.

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    Describing players as a number nine or number ten is irritating to me. These days shirts aren't numbered one to eleven, so it's meaningless. The player in question might be wearing forty. Secondly, pundits only describe players in these two positions by number. I've never heard anyone describe a player as a number four, for example.
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    I always wondered about this.

    If that's the back if the net, what should we call the bit of the net that faces the crowd?

    Surely, it's a goal if the ball hits the inside of the back of the net, although not exclusively so.

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    You never hear about midfield schemers nowadays. I think Dylan would be ours today.

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    I was thinking about this early doors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tamig View Post
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    You never hear about midfield schemers nowadays. I think Dylan would be ours today.
    Or a flying winger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba View Post
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    Or a flying winger.
    I see hitmen still being mentioned but marksmen and sharpshooters seem to have had their day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tamig View Post
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    I see hitmen still being mentioned but marksmen and sharpshooters seem to have had their day.
    Do we still have midfield dynamos? The all action central midfield player who loved a tackle: Billy Bremner, Bryan Robson type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    I always wondered about this.

    If that's the back if the net, what should we call the bit of the net that faces the crowd?

    Surely, it's a goal if the ball hits the inside of the back of the net, although not exclusively so.
    Also, it's always side netting but never side of the net; yet back of the net but never back netting. Shirley illogical captain.

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    The hatchet man. The guy who would be put on the opposition's best player to stop him, or, even better, get him stretchered off. Tommy Smith, Norman Hunter, Nobby Stiles, Graeme Souness, Ron Harris.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    Also, it's always side netting but never side of the net; yet back of the net but never back netting. Shirley illogical captain.
    In keeping with the theme and to avoid confusion let’s just go back to onion bag.

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    Remember the days of twin strikers?

    Or the custodian of the nets?

    Or stopper centre halves?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tamig View Post
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    In keeping with the theme and to avoid confusion let’s just go back to onion bag.
    In the postage stamp of the onion bag - a powerful shot, right in the top corner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgl07 View Post
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    Remember the days of twin strikers?

    Or the custodian of the nets?

    Or stopper centre halves?
    Ah the good auld days of the 4-4-2: 'strike partners', the very best of whom had a 'telepathic relationship'. Strictly platonic mind.
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    We don't get shies now -they're throw-ins.
    Where's the MW formation these days?
    The most horrible expression ever used was 'the old onion bag' instead of 'the net'.
    Btw, anybody still got dubbin?

    Finally, whatever happened to "Erza macaroon bars"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by snooky View Post
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    We don't get shies now -they're throw-ins.
    Where's the MW formation these days?
    The most horrible expression ever used was 'the old onion bag' instead of 'the net'.
    Btw, anybody still got dubbin?

    Finally, whatever happened to "Erza macaroon bars"?
    It was wintergreen when I was a kid. Give you the edge in winter schools matches.
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    What happened to the sweeper system? I don't think anyone plays sweeper any more. A defender who couldn't run basically
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