Hibernian FC's response to SFA rejection of an Independent Review....HSA meeting...

[GORDONSMITH7]

Rod Petrie, Leann Dempster, Stephen Dunn, Fans Reps Frank and Tracey will be in attendance to answer your points

In September I wrote......

Many Hibs fans have been dismayed by the position taken by the Hibernian FC's decision to accept the decision by the SFA to reject the request by the 42 Club SPFL to have an Independent Review into the handling of non payment of taxes by clubs in the aftermath of the recent binding Supreme Court judgment against Rangers' liquidators BDO. Regan of the SFA said... “However, the image of the game in Scotland can only be damaged further by ‘raking over the coals’ of everything that has happened in the last six years for a further lengthy period of time.''

Your Branch Committee totally reject this assertion and would like your opinions. We would like to hear you opinions before any representation is made to Hibernian FC and the Hibernian Supporters Association.

As promised we then held a full consultation with 550 St Pat's Branch members putting our Committee's position up for discussion. I received over 130 written replies, some of which were fed back to the membership.

With a mandate I then took the right route and brought this up at the October Delegates meeting of the Hibernian Supporters Association. It would be fair to say that several of the Delegates of other Branches felt similarly and there was a consensus/unease at the voting of the Fans reps and lack of active participation with fans by them on this subject.

The Officials of the HSA have listened to the Branches and organised this meeting next Thursday at 7.00 in the Hibernian Supporters Association Club . It therefore follows that Hibernian have listened to the genuine concerns of HSA members and Hibs fans in general. This is an open meeting to all Hibs supporters and I would urge you all to use this opportunity.

BIG G

Secretary St. Patrick's Branch

[HappyAsHellas]

Is it open to non members?

[GORDONSMITH7]

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Is it open to non members?

Yes, the more the merrier. There was fairly active feelings expressed about this on both main Fans websites at the time and this opportunity to have your say and hear what Hibs and our reps have to say on the matter should be grasped by both hands in my opinion. Fair play to the HSA and Hibs.

BIG G

[Ozyhibby]

Massive well done. I’ll be there.


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[wookie70]

Well done on arranging the meeting. Is it not a bit late though or is there time to change our mind.

[GORDONSMITH7]

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Well done on arranging the meeting. Is it not a bit late though or is there time to change our mind.

I guess that very much depends on the strength of feeling of fans and reasoned argument by us to demonstrate the folly of the statement and the rejection of the SPFL proposal out of hand by Regan, and how the decision was taken by the Board unanimously . I have to say that I personally am concerned about the governance/knowledge of SFA under Ogilvie, Smith and Regan during the period of the bent activities of deid Rangers.

BIG G

[Keith_M]

I won't be able to attend, but well done on the work you guys have put in to have this issue discussed.

[blackpoolhibs]

Well done Gordon, great work.


I hope you are getting better.

[Ronniekirk]

Might pop through from Paisley for this Its not going to change anything and am sure they would be happy with a poor turnout so they can put this to bed ,but like a lot of fans i still think we are bending over backwards to placate them and let them off the hook



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[Bostonhibby]

Respect for sticking to it just now Amigo.

You can't keep a good man down for too long

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[lucky]

Glad this is taking place as those who feel strongly will attend and vent their anger and then we can all move on

[TheHibsClub]

Hi all

Apologies, but we are having to make the Q&A members only on Thursday 16th. We'll post a report of the discussion on our website. We will have council members on the door so please do bring your membership card if you are planning to attend.

Thanks

[Ronniekirk]

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Hi all

Apologies, but we are having to make the Q&A members only on Thursday 16th. We'll post a report of the discussion on our website. We will have council members on the door so please do bring your membership card if you are planning to attend.

Thanks

Oh well i wont be going then


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[Ozyhibby]

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Hi all

Apologies, but we are having to make the Q&A members only on Thursday 16th. We'll post a report of the discussion on our website. We will have council members on the door so please do bring your membership card if you are planning to attend.

Thanks

Disappointing. Ah well, I’ll look forward to the update on here.


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[Nakedmanoncrack]

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Hi all

Apologies, but we are having to make the Q&A members only on Thursday 16th. We'll post a report of the discussion on our website. We will have council members on the door so please do bring your membership card if you are planning to attend.

Thanks

Will there really be that many people there that it needs to be members only?

[Baldy Foghorn]

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Will there really be that many people there that it needs to be members only?

It was organised by HSA, makes sense to be a members only night

[Nakedmanoncrack]

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It was organised by HSA, makes sense to be a members only night

I'm a member myself, and I can see that point, but I think making this accessible to the largest number of supporters makes sense when there are unlikely to be capacity issues.

[Baldy Foghorn]

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I'm a member myself, and I can see that point, but I think making this accessible to the largest number of supporters makes sense when there are unlikely to be capacity issues.

You going?

[GORDONSMITH7]

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I'm a member myself, and I can see that point, but I think making this accessible to the largest number of supporters makes sense when there are unlikely to be capacity issues.

Absolutely spot on in my opinion.


My assertion that it was to be an open meeting was not sucked out of my thumb but based on this from an HSA official......

Gordon tried phoning you back no reply we are going to make the meeting on the 16th an open meeting.

Following representation and discussion between Hibs and HSA officials the above statement was made by the HSA.....

BIG G

[johnbc70]

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Hi all

Apologies, but we are having to make the Q&A members only on Thursday 16th. We'll post a report of the discussion on our website. We will have council members on the door so please do bring your membership card if you are planning to attend.

Thanks

Can someone Facebook live it or put it on Periscope?

[ronaldo7]

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Can someone Facebook live it or put it on Periscope?

I'm not sure the club(both of them) would like this to be posted live.

[Thecat23]

Good to hear you are on the mend G. All the best 👍🏼

[ian cruise]

I'd guess that part of the reason for it being members only is that members will be slightly more accountable for their actions. It's a highly charged issue and if anyone is allowed in you could have any wack job turning up and making what should be a reasonable discussion between fans and the board turn in to a pointless shouting match.

There's also the risk non Hibs fans turning up purely to use such an event to cause trouble. It's a shame that is the world we live in but I can see the rationale behind making it members only.

[hibbydad]

You are so right Ian

[Ozyhibby]

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I'd guess that part of the reason for it being members only is that members will be slightly more accountable for their actions. It's a highly charged issue and if anyone is allowed in you could have any wack job turning up and making what should be a reasonable discussion between fans and the board turn in to a pointless shouting match.

There's also the risk non Hibs fans turning up purely to use such an event to cause trouble. It's a shame that is the world we live in but I can see the rationale behind making it members only.

I could bring my season ticket to prove I’m a Hibby and my release documents from broadmoor to prove I’m no longer a wack job.
Joking aside, I think you are over estimating how many people will be there and how highly charged it will be.

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[ian cruise]

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I could bring my season ticket to prove I’m a Hibby and my release documents from broadmoor to prove I’m no longer a wack job.
Joking aside, I think you are over estimating how many people will be there and how highly charged it will be.

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Surely Petrie already has a photo of you at the door of every building he enters just in case you try get in???

I was just considering reasons why it might be members only, wasn't meaning to put it across as fact. I don't think it will be too busy and agree, season tickets being shown would gave been a good solution to allow more to attend. I still think it's a good thing that it is happening on the first place and hopefully suitable answers can be given, though I think it's a scenario where they won't be able to please everyone now regardless of what the board say.

[Ozyhibby]

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Surely Petrie already has a photo of you at the door of every building he enters just in case you try get in???

I was just considering reasons why it might be members only, wasn't meaning to put it across as fact. I don't think it will be too busy and agree, season tickets being shown would gave been a good solution to allow more to attend. I still think it's a good thing that it is happening on the first place and hopefully suitable answers can be given, though I think it's a scenario where they won't be able to please everyone now regardless of what the board say.

So long as Leeann Dempster is at Hibs I can just about live with Petrie still being there.
I’m glad there is going to be a meeting though and hopefully some proper answers will be forthcoming this time rather than the ‘we think everyone should just concentrate on Hibs’ nonsense.
The new club is currently being funded from offshore and running a massive deficit. This is money being used to disadvantage Hibs today. Money they are hoping will pip us to one of the Euro places this year. Money that might beat us in the Scottish Cup this year. Without full transparency of what happened previously we have no chance of fixing what’s going on now.



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[ian cruise]

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So long as Leeann Dempster is at Hibs I can just about live with Petrie still being there.
I’m glad there is going to be a meeting though and hopefully some proper answers will be forthcoming this time rather than the ‘we think everyone should just concentrate on Hibs’ nonsense.
The new club is currently being funded from offshore and running a massive deficit. This is money being used to disadvantage Hibs today. Money they are hoping will pip us to one of the Euro places this year. Money that might beat us in the Scottish Cup this year. Without full transparency of what happened previously we have no chance of fixing what’s going on now.



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I don't disagree with any of that. I think the meeting is not only useful, but required for some sections of the support to gain a feeling of trust back from the club the support.

Questions should be asked, not just by ourselves, about how the SPFL are monitoring the spending and running or Rangers to ensure they aren't falling in to old habits and spending more than they can afford to, I think we all know they are. I'd love ourselves to be at the forefront of pushing towards more transparent governance of our game. There are a few of the parts of the whole Rangers debacle I'd probably do sit on a different side of the fence to others but definitely not in a sense of letting them, or any other club, away with gross mismanagement at best, or blatant cheating to progress their cause to the detriment of ours.

I just hope the meeting is the worthwhile exercise it has the potential to be and we get some suitable answers because there are definitely questions needing answered about the stance we took and what information was available that led us to the decision.

[Stonewall]

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I'd guess that part of the reason for it being members only is that members will be slightly more accountable for their actions. It's a highly charged issue and if anyone is allowed in you could have any wack job turning up and making what should be a reasonable discussion between fans and the board turn in to a pointless shouting match.

There's also the risk non Hibs fans turning up purely to use such an event to cause trouble. It's a shame that is the world we live in but I can see the rationale behind making it members only.

I agree Ian - says a lot for the board that they are prepared to discuss the issue with the support.

The fact that it is members only shouldn't mean that the relevant points can't be put across to the board and it might even help by keeping the discussion focused and concentrated rather than being diluted by loads of people wanting their say in a large meeting.

[Ronniekirk]

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I'd guess that part of the reason for it being members only is that members will be slightly more accountable for their actions. It's a highly charged issue and if anyone is allowed in you could have any wack job turning up and making what should be a reasonable discussion between fans and the board turn in to a pointless shouting match.

There's also the risk non Hibs fans turning up purely to use such an event to cause trouble. It's a shame that is the world we live in but I can see the rationale behind making it members only.

Just show your season ticket would easily get round that


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