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    Dont know much about cricket, and dont know what this guy done that made it have a 'massive' impact on the game but it seems the fallout from it is massive, sponsors pulling out the lot.
    What I was thinking when I heard it was, is it any different to a footballer diving for a penalty? Yes they may get few match ban after the incident ,and a small fine, but its never as big a furore as this. Could you see a sponsor stop sponsoring Ronaldo if he was caught diving, which is in all intents and purposes, cheating.


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    Dont know much about cricket, and dont know what this guy done that made it have a 'massive' impact on the game but it seems the fallout from it is massive, sponsors pulling out the lot.
    What I was thinking when I heard it was, is it any different to a footballer diving for a penalty? Yes they may get few match ban after the incident ,and a small fine, but its never as big a furore as this. Could you see a sponsor stop sponsoring Ronaldo if he was caught diving, which is in all intents and purposes, cheating.
    You're right! For serious followers of cricket, though, this is a bad show altogether.

    I've not taken much interest in the game since it came off the cooncil telly, but I seem to remember Mike Atherton doing something suspicious in his trouser pocket in a test. I think he got away with it without a furore like this.

    Donald Bradman must be birlin' in his grave - not just at the outright cheating but one of the Australians was actually crying on the television. Extraordinary way to carry on!

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    Time for Cook to retire now I think. Out for 2, he was all over the place.

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    Itís good to see a match played down under on a proper cricket ground with a proper wicket. These drop in wickets are something Iíve never taken to.

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    England bowling beautifully here. NZ 17/4.

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    Just watched the Warner press conference. Not nice to watch.

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    Ed Smith, the new England Test selector announces his first side tomorrow to face Pakistan. I can't make those Tests but I will be at Edgbaston for a couple of days for the Test against India, and I will get a chance to see Pakistan when they come to the Grange for their one-dayer against Scotland.

    Bowling-wise it looks fairly predictable. Anderson and Broad, and no shortage of third or fourth seamers. There are a couple of youngsters in contention, which makes sense in terms of succession planning, but obviously represents risk.

    Batting-wise there are decisions to be made. Assuming Cook stays, then the question is who he opens with. Stoneman hasn't really built on his opportunity and the question is whether it's time to bring back Keaton Jennings. There's also question marks over Vince and Malan - Vince has done himself no harm with a double century in the County Championshio but essentially he remains the same player - comes in, looks good playing a cover drive and gets out.

    Fundamentally for England it feels like they have to look at Jonny Bairstow. I think it's clear that he doesn't want to bat higher up the order, but like Joe Root I think the selectors have to simply tell them that's what's happening. Root at three and Bairstow at five, or even four. They are the two strongest English batsmen and batting lower down the order isn't helping their team.

    I know Bairstow wants to keep the gloves but for the greater good of England they can push him up into a gamechanger in the middle order and bring in Ben Foakes, who can keep but also averages forty-plus with the bat in first-class cricket.
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    Ed Smith, the new England Test selector announces his first side tomorrow to face Pakistan. I can't make those Tests but I will be at Edgbaston for a couple of days for the Test against India, and I will get a chance to see Pakistan when they come to the Grange for their one-dayer against Scotland.

    Bowling-wise it looks fairly predictable. Anderson and Broad, and no shortage of third or fourth seamers. There are a couple of youngsters in contention, which makes sense in terms of succession planning, but obviously represents risk.

    Batting-wise there are decisions to be made. Assuming Cook stays, then the question is who he opens with. Stoneman hasn't really built on his opportunity and the question is whether it's time to bring back Keaton Jennings. There's also question marks over Vince and Malan - Vince has done himself no harm with a double century in the County Championshio but essentially he remains the same player - comes in, looks good playing a cover drive and gets out.

    Fundamentally for England it feels like they have to look at Jonny Bairstow. I think it's clear that he doesn't want to bat higher up the order, but like Joe Root I think the selectors have to simply tell them that's what's happening. Root at three and Bairstow at five, or even four. They are the two strongest English batsmen and batting lower down the order isn't helping their team.

    I know Bairstow wants to keep the gloves but for the greater good of England they can push him up into a gamechanger in the middle order and bring in Ben Foakes, who can keep but also averages forty-plus with the bat in first-class cricket.
    Well, well, well.......I didn't expect that.

    Credit to the England set-up for pushing Root up to three and Bairstow to five, it's long overdue. I didn't expect Buttler to come in, feel a bit sorry for Foakes, but if Bairstow is keeping the gloves then Buttler can just concentrate on providing the fireworks at seven. With Stokes back in the side England suddenly have a lot of firepower in the middle order.

    Stoneman has been given another chance but I hope Haseeb Hameed and Jennings are being seen as the long-term options to open the batting, Vince, as suspected, is dropped because ultimately he is a limited cricketer.

    I've not seen anything of Dom Bess so am looking forward to that - it's funny how often someone can come in as a consequence of another player's injury and end up taking the place permanently.
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    Well, well, well.......I didn't expect that.

    Credit to the England set-up for pushing Root up to three and Bairstow to five, it's long overdue. I didn't expect Buttler to come in, feel a bit sorry for Foakes, but if Bairstow is keeping the gloves then Buttler can just concentrate on providing the fireworks at seven. With Stokes back in the side England suddenly have a lot of firepower in the middle order.

    Stoneman has been given another chance but I hope Haseeb Hameed and Jennings are being seen as the long-term options to open the batting, Vince, as suspected, is dropped because ultimately he is a limited cricketer.

    I've not seen anything of Dom Bess so am looking forward to that - it's funny how often someone can come in as a consequence of another player's injury and end up taking the place permanently.
    One of the problems England have is that basing selection on international form means that theyíre relying on performances that were achieved in completely different conditions that they will be playing in this summer. Iíve watched so many interviews where the form in the winter has been suggested as being the decisive factor. I just watched one with Vince who was understandably down about missing out. There needs to be more young players sent around the various cricketing nations in order to learn the conditions and be able to adapt to them. If the current trend of home countries winning test matches continues it will lead to a situation where paying fans will become less interested.

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    One of the problems England have is that basing selection on international form means that theyíre relying on performances that were achieved in completely different conditions that they will be playing in this summer. Iíve watched so many interviews where the form in the winter has been suggested as being the decisive factor. I just watched one with Vince who was understandably down about missing out. There needs to be more young players sent around the various cricketing nations in order to learn the conditions and be able to adapt to them. If the current trend of home countries winning test matches continues it will lead to a situation where paying fans will become less interested.
    I think you're right and it's a global problem. For example, Indian cricketers need to learn how to play in the West Indies or in Perth and Brisbane.

    I think I heard a proposal that there shouldn't be a toss at the start and away teams just got the choice. That might make a difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye View Post
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    I think you're right and it's a global problem. For example, Indian cricketers need to learn how to play in the West Indies or in Perth and Brisbane.

    I think I heard a proposal that there shouldn't be a toss at the start and away teams just got the choice. That might make a difference.
    I quite like that idea. I would also like to see some of the younger players sent around the other major cricketing nations in an exchange scheme to play first class cricket.

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    I quite like that idea. I would also like to see some of the younger players sent around the other major cricketing nations in an exchange scheme to play first class cricket.
    I think that such a scheme would or could be massively influential in developing Test cricket.

    It needs the buy-in at Board level. India is probably the critical part. They have the biggest audiences, they are one of the nations that has its own playing conditions and they can make or break the future of Test cricket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye View Post
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    I think that such a scheme would or could be massively influential in developing Test cricket.

    It needs the buy-in at Board level. India is probably the critical part. They have the biggest audiences, they are one of the nations that has its own playing conditions and they can make or break the future of Test cricket.
    I agree about India. I would also say that India are almost certainly doing the most of the major cricketing nations to promote the game in all its formats. As you say they have the biggest audiences and they donít have the concerns that the longer format of the game is in decline. Cricket is booming over there in all formats. They do seem like a nation who above all else wants the game to succeed, and I think they would be open to a player exchange. What an experience it would be for a young cricketer to go there for a year and experience the Indian game.

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    England 12-1 stoneman going early, bit muggy in London today not sure I would have batted first. Got tickets for tomorrow so looking forward to seeing Pakistan bat!


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    Root gone with a David-Gower-esque waft outside off stump.

    Cook survives very close lbw review. England wobbling big time at 58/3.

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    Cook gets his 56th 50.

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    England collapse - 184 all out.

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    Pretty easy for Pakistan this morning, only question is how many wickets they'll have in hand when they go by England.


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    Bess and Buttler putting on a nice little stand. Pakistan aren't in any bother but they will want to break that partnership sooner rather than later.

    Amir's delivery to bowl Bairstow, just clipping off stump, is as fine a delivery as we will likely see all summer.
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    If there is any team in any sport who deserve the title of 'mercurial' more so than the Pakistan cricket team I would be amazed.

    I didn't think England were that bad in the First Test and I don't think they have been that great in this Test, but they have just done what they do and won the match.

    Hopefully Jennings gets a decent run in the side to bed in. It will be interesting to see what happens with Bess - he's got decent figures in the second innings but Jack Leach, whom he replaced, should be fit for some of the India series.
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    Fine turn around from the 1st test, bowling, batting and fielding much improved. I hope England have found one in Bess, full of promise.

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    England 38-3 after bowling The Aussies out for 214.
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    Fine turn around from the 1st test, bowling, batting and fielding much improved. I hope England have found one in Bess, full of promise.
    I like Bess and I hope he gets a decent run to establish himself. I know there was a bit of good fortune in how he got his debut, but thatís professional sport for you.
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    Root and Morgan appear to have steadied the ship, now 132-3.

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    Wowsers! Just checking the latest Eng v Aus ODI - England 128/0 off 16.5 overs. Bairstow and Roy got their 50s in 39 and 41 balls respectively.

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    200 up in 24 overs!

    Roy run out, Hales on and smashing it about as well.

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    300 up in 33 overs.

    ODI record of 444 in serious danger. We could see the first ever 500 here.

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    400 up with seven overs to go.
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    Eoin Morgan's 50 in 21 balls!

    419/3, 6 overs to go.

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    Eoin Morgan's 50 in 21 balls!

    419/3, 6 overs to go.

    Unbelievable hitting, from the BBC feed 'Eoin Morgan only had eight off his first nine balls. He hit 42 off his next 12'

    42 off 12???


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