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    Quote Originally Posted by snooky View Post
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    Good article although the cynic in me wonders how long will it be before some bam pops up and accuses white poppy wearers as being some sort of racists. I also agree with the point about the connection with arms manufacturers although I would suggest that they, the arms manufacturers, are to some extent a necessary evil as even pacifists must surely realise that peace along with freedom is maintained when you have adequate military strength to defend it.

    "If you want peace, prepare for war ..." - an uncomfortable truth many of us close our eyes to. Efficient and well-equipped armed services are a necessary element of our national security.

    I think Remembrance over the last few years - since the Millennium - has become slightly less about Remembrance and more about a sort of jingoistic patriotism in a lot of people's minds. Hence the Poppy Police.


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    Half the problem nowadays is that everyone has a platform to air their views to a wider audience. Hence the rising profile of the permanently offended and the professional busybody.

    Thirty years ago, you wore a poppy if you wanted to and didn’t if you didn’t want to. The audience willing to listen to your witterings was limited to either the wife, kids and dog or your mates in the pub. Until they got fed up with you moaning like **** all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefster View Post
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    Half the problem nowadays is that everyone has a platform to air their views to a wider audience. Hence the rising profile of the permanently offended and the professional busybody.

    Thirty years ago, you wore a poppy if you wanted to and didnít if you didnít want to. The audience willing to listen to your witterings was limited to either the wife, kids and dog or your mates in the pub. Until they got fed up with you moaning like **** all the time.

    Yup. So much for the Internet and social media promoting mutual understanding and drawing us all together.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Doddie View Post
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    "If you want peace, prepare for war ..." - an uncomfortable truth many of us close our eyes to. Efficient and well-equipped armed services are a necessary element of our national security.

    I think Remembrance over the last few years - since the Millennium - has become slightly less about Remembrance and more about a sort of jingoistic patriotism in a lot of people's minds. Hence the Poppy Police.
    The poppy has become commercialised and by the same people who will tell you it's under attack from lefties, Muslims and the EU. Turning the poppy into a cherished emblem of patriotism is a win win for the likes of Murdoch and his foot soldiers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg View Post
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    The poppy has become commercialised and by the same people who will tell you it's under attack from lefties, Muslims and the EU. Turning the poppy into a cherished emblem of patriotism is a win win for the likes of Murdoch and his foot soldiers.
    The outrage at, Ian Blackford, for daring to wear his kilt, and a poppy Scotland badge, at the cenotaph, instead of a paper poppy has reached new lows.

    They need to take a long hard look at themselves.

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    I wear one, but dont give a toss if you dont.

    I dont even notice if someone is not wearing one, why would i?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefster View Post
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    Half the problem nowadays is that everyone has a platform to air their views to a wider audience. Hence the rising profile of the permanently offended and the professional busybody.

    Thirty years ago, you wore a poppy if you wanted to and didn’t if you didn’t want to. The audience willing to listen to your witterings was limited to either the wife, kids and dog or your mates in the pub. Until they got fed up with you moaning like **** all the time.
    Sums everything up in a nutshell. Platforms created for empty noised-up self-appointed agitators (Ahem, I may be one ).
    Try to please everybody and you end up pleasing nobody.
    Live with it.

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    The Tories, and the politicisation of the poppy. Poppy Scotland were not happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronaldo7 View Post
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    The Tories, and the politicisation of the poppy. Poppy Scotland were not happy.

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    Agree with the whole politicisation of the poppy being a bad thing, and the tories being out of order. But Poppy Scotland are a bit rich complaining about it, they are hugely responsible for whoring out the symbol and making it a 'political' issue. They are, by definition, a campaigning (therefore a small 'p') political organisation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthsideHarp_Bhoy View Post
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    Agree with the whole politicisation of the poppy being a bad thing, and the tories being out of order. But Poppy Scotland are a bit rich complaining about it, they are hugely responsible for whoring out the symbol and making it a 'political' issue. They are, by definition, a campaigning (therefore a small 'p') political organisation.
    Poppy Scotland say they're apolitical. It will be for the general public to decide, I suppose. I'd agree with you on this one though. 🙌

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronaldo7 View Post
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    Poppy Scotland say they're apolitical. It will be for the general public to decide, I suppose. I'd agree with you on this one though. 🙌
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