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    Good article although the cynic in me wonders how long will it be before some bam pops up and accuses white poppy wearers as being some sort of racists. I also agree with the point about the connection with arms manufacturers although I would suggest that they, the arms manufacturers, are to some extent a necessary evil as even pacifists must surely realise that peace along with freedom is maintained when you have adequate military strength to defend it.

    "If you want peace, prepare for war ..." - an uncomfortable truth many of us close our eyes to. Efficient and well-equipped armed services are a necessary element of our national security.

    I think Remembrance over the last few years - since the Millennium - has become slightly less about Remembrance and more about a sort of jingoistic patriotism in a lot of people's minds. Hence the Poppy Police.


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    Half the problem nowadays is that everyone has a platform to air their views to a wider audience. Hence the rising profile of the permanently offended and the professional busybody.

    Thirty years ago, you wore a poppy if you wanted to and didn’t if you didn’t want to. The audience willing to listen to your witterings was limited to either the wife, kids and dog or your mates in the pub. Until they got fed up with you moaning like **** all the time.

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    Half the problem nowadays is that everyone has a platform to air their views to a wider audience. Hence the rising profile of the permanently offended and the professional busybody.

    Thirty years ago, you wore a poppy if you wanted to and didnít if you didnít want to. The audience willing to listen to your witterings was limited to either the wife, kids and dog or your mates in the pub. Until they got fed up with you moaning like **** all the time.

    Yup. So much for the Internet and social media promoting mutual understanding and drawing us all together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doddie View Post
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    "If you want peace, prepare for war ..." - an uncomfortable truth many of us close our eyes to. Efficient and well-equipped armed services are a necessary element of our national security.

    I think Remembrance over the last few years - since the Millennium - has become slightly less about Remembrance and more about a sort of jingoistic patriotism in a lot of people's minds. Hence the Poppy Police.
    The poppy has become commercialised and by the same people who will tell you it's under attack from lefties, Muslims and the EU. Turning the poppy into a cherished emblem of patriotism is a win win for the likes of Murdoch and his foot soldiers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg View Post
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    The poppy has become commercialised and by the same people who will tell you it's under attack from lefties, Muslims and the EU. Turning the poppy into a cherished emblem of patriotism is a win win for the likes of Murdoch and his foot soldiers.
    The outrage at, Ian Blackford, for daring to wear his kilt, and a poppy Scotland badge, at the cenotaph, instead of a paper poppy has reached new lows.

    They need to take a long hard look at themselves.


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    I wear one, but dont give a toss if you dont.

    I dont even notice if someone is not wearing one, why would i?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefster View Post
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    Half the problem nowadays is that everyone has a platform to air their views to a wider audience. Hence the rising profile of the permanently offended and the professional busybody.

    Thirty years ago, you wore a poppy if you wanted to and didn’t if you didn’t want to. The audience willing to listen to your witterings was limited to either the wife, kids and dog or your mates in the pub. Until they got fed up with you moaning like **** all the time.
    Sums everything up in a nutshell. Platforms created for empty noised-up self-appointed agitators (Ahem, I may be one ).
    Try to please everybody and you end up pleasing nobody.
    Live with it.

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    I try to bide my tongue around this time of the year, but the long-term message is clear:


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    The Tories, and the politicisation of the poppy. Poppy Scotland were not happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronaldo7 View Post
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    The Tories, and the politicisation of the poppy. Poppy Scotland were not happy.

    Tories poppy .jpg
    Agree with the whole politicisation of the poppy being a bad thing, and the tories being out of order. But Poppy Scotland are a bit rich complaining about it, they are hugely responsible for whoring out the symbol and making it a 'political' issue. They are, by definition, a campaigning (therefore a small 'p') political organisation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthsideHarp_Bhoy View Post
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    Agree with the whole politicisation of the poppy being a bad thing, and the tories being out of order. But Poppy Scotland are a bit rich complaining about it, they are hugely responsible for whoring out the symbol and making it a 'political' issue. They are, by definition, a campaigning (therefore a small 'p') political organisation.
    Poppy Scotland say they're apolitical. It will be for the general public to decide, I suppose. I'd agree with you on this one though. 🙌


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    Quote Originally Posted by ronaldo7 View Post
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    Poppy Scotland say they're apolitical. It will be for the general public to decide, I suppose. I'd agree with you on this one though. 🙌
    That's one for the vault right there

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    Anyone know if the teams in Scotland will be wearing their poppy this weekend?

    Noticed on MOTD that the EPL teams wore theirs in the weekend just past with a few exceptions for political and personal reasons.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    Cringe.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ronaldo7 View Post
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    Cringe.
    Some of the posts on that feed are absolutely hilarious! 😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    Wow. That is utterly cringeworthy. Rancid politicisation of what should be a symbol of peace and remembrance. Just a garish display of faux patriotism.

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    Wow. That is utterly cringeworthy. Rancid politicisation of what should be a symbol of peace and remembrance. Just a garish display of faux patriotism.
    Isnít it a spoof?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefster View Post
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    Isnít it a spoof?
    The page is run by a UKIP MEP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jones28 View Post
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    The page is run by a UKIP MEP
    No itís not 😂😂

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    The page is run by a UKIP MEP
    No, it quotes a UKIP MEP.

    Given the middle of the poppy used as the avatar is the Eye of Sauron, I’m reasonably certain that it’s a spoof.

    Edit: in fact, after reading the latest half a dozen or so tweets, I’m certain it’s a spoof.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefster View Post
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    No, it quotes a UKIP MEP.

    Given the middle of the poppy used as the avatar is the Eye of Sauron, Iím reasonably certain that itís a spoof.

    Edit: in fact, after reading the latest half a dozen or so tweets, Iím certain itís a spoof.
    Like all good spoof accounts the responses from the gullible are priceless.

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    Well, that's me telt 😂

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    I wear a white poppy.

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    I wear a poppy on the last day before the Sunday and on the day itself just like my parents and their contemporaries did back in the 50s/60s. They'd all lived through the wars for real so they knew what they were talking about.

    They would have found today's remembrance industry profoundly distasteful.

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    I was in Verdun last week with my nine year old. Everyone has been educated about the 1st world war but reading or hearing about the numbers is somehow abstract and difficult to imagine. Only when you visit the memorials and graveyards with their thousands of white crosses and grave stones stretching as far as the eye can see, is it then fathomable to understand the true devastation that took place.

    On Sunday I'll do what I always do on remembrance day, I'll spend a few minutes reflecting on the many who died in the name of the ambitions of the few. And when I say the many I mean the Brits, Germans, French, Irish and all others whose life's were stopped short in the name of one ideology or the other. It might conflict with my previous statement but I'll also be wearing my poppy to remember the friends I've lost to war and be grateful that it wasn't me. Only then I'll try and lighten up and celebrate my birthday that will forever be intrinsically connected to remembrance day on so many different levels. A sombre day of reflection with good reasons to be thankful.


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    my 10 year old has been asking for one as he "wants to help" he is also a flag bearer this year at a parade in his village, he has been getting told about all different wars and why we remember these people, he has really enjoyed learning about it

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