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    Quote Originally Posted by Future17 View Post
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    The Queen is allowed to vote. It's only by convention that she does not do so...as far as we know.
    I didn't know that. Cheers. ( ticks the box that says "learn something new every day")

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    I didn't know that. Cheers. ( ticks the box that says "learn something new every day")

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    I still think she does it by post. ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedy_gonzales View Post
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    Only in Scotland can you get married, you also need parents permission to join the army before 18,,,,
    You can get married in England at 16 with parental consent.
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    I only want to say the Scottish Cup is in the bag... Sir David Gray's Avatar
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    If 16 year olds are, by and large, not ready to be given the responsibility of voting, surely questions should be asked about whether or not they are ready to have other responsibilities that they already do have.

    Should they be allowed to have children, should they be allowed to have jobs and should they be allowed to get married?

    If the answer to those questions is yes then they absolutely must get the vote. You cannot have someone who is the parent of a 1 year old child, who is working and also married but then tell them they can't have a say in the running of the country.

    It's absurd.

    Maybe the answers should be no though and these other issues should be looked at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir David Gray View Post
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    If 16 year olds are, by and large, not ready to be given the responsibility of voting, surely questions should be asked about whether or not they are ready to have other responsibilities that they already do have.

    Should they be allowed to have children, should they be allowed to have jobs and should they be allowed to get married?

    If the answer to those questions is yes then they absolutely must get the vote. You cannot have someone who is the parent of a 1 year old child, who is working and also married but then tell them they can't have a say in the running of the country.

    It's absurd.

    Maybe the answers should be no though and these other issues should be looked at.
    I was surprised to read that under 18's weren't allowed to work full-time unless this was part of some sort of apprenticeship including working towards a qualification.
    I'm sure most of my mates that dropped out at 16 went straight in to full time employment at the age of 16 back in 1992. Some were indeed apprenticeships but some were the average shelf stacking jobs.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41831036

    Edited to add the BBC link and to acknowledge that there is yet again geographical differences within this small island.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir David Gray View Post
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    Should they be allowed to have children, should they be allowed to have jobs and should they be allowed to get married?
    I'm assuming you mean "allowed to have sex" rather than "allowed to have children"?

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    I think 16 is too young.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Future17 View Post
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    I'm assuming you mean "allowed to have sex" rather than "allowed to have children"?
    Yes of course but surely that goes without saying?
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    I wouldn't lower it. 18 is right for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir David Gray View Post
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    Yes of course but surely that goes without saying?
    Fair enough, but when the discussion is essentially people with certain rights deciding who else should have them and why, I think it's important to be clear.

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