SDG hooked or injured?

***J-C*** · 21-10-2017 03:34 PM

Was he hooked at half time? Seemed to be off the boil today with his passing and general game play, could it be the end for him, I have heard Lennon's not a fan but doesn't like dropping the captain. Was his level the championship with the odd great game now and then. Not having a dig here just curious to hear people's thoughts.

**B.H.F.C** · 21-10-2017 03:35 PM

Hooked. He was garbage.

**~~cleanyman~~** · 21-10-2017 03:35 PM

I love the man

This is the problem with the Scottish cup winning side. Sentiment over form ?

**hibee62** · 21-10-2017 03:37 PM

He definitely stretched his left leg out a couple of times after a chase, not sure if it was still affecting him though!

***greenlex*** · 21-10-2017 03:37 PM

Hooked. Lennon really frustrated by him. To be fair Whittaker offered much more going forward albeit with the help of Boyle against Sinclair.

***weecounty hibby*** · 21-10-2017 03:37 PM

I think we has hooked. Wasn't playing well and let Lustig stroll past him for the second goal I think.

**KWJ** · 21-10-2017 03:41 PM

He did pull up after a 50/50. Maybe a bit of both.

***FifeHibs*** · 21-10-2017 03:47 PM

Whittaker offers far more going forward.

Before the 2016 cup final David Gray as many of the Hibs team were lambasted when we were beaten by Raith Rovers at Starks Park 1-0
I'm afraid David Gray level is below the level Hibs want to be at. A legend yes but a starter in this team I'm afraid not.

***Northernhibee*** · 21-10-2017 03:47 PM

Doesn't help when he can't get a run of games to prove himself or gain momentum.

**Tyler Durden** · 21-10-2017 03:54 PM

Aside from his part in the 2nd goal he did fine.

Whittaker has switched off at set pieces several times this season so I wouldn't say he's any more reliable. He is better going forward but for me personally I'd start Gray in the derby. He's been excellent every time against Hearts and sets the tone.

People claiming he's not Premier league quality are talking pish

***Allant1981*** · 21-10-2017 03:57 PM

wasnt great today but to say he is below this level is just nosense, better defender than whittaker but whittaker a better player

**S4uzee** · 21-10-2017 03:57 PM

I thought he did OK ... opinions eh

***hibee_girl*** · 21-10-2017 04:00 PM

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I thought he did OK ... opinions eh

I did too

**Tyler Durden** · 21-10-2017 04:02 PM

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Was he hooked at half time? Seemed to be off the boil today with his passing and general game play, could it be the end for him, I have heard Lennon's not a fan but doesn't like dropping the captain. Was his level the championship with the odd great game now and then. Not having a dig here just curious to hear people's thoughts.

If Lennons not a fan why did he give Gray a 2 year deal?

***hibee1875*** · 21-10-2017 04:16 PM

100% hooked.

Lennon so frustrated by him every time the the ball was played wide to him and he played it backwards instead of looking to take Tierny on or looking for a forward pass.

Whittaker offers so much more.

***lord bunberry*** · 21-10-2017 04:21 PM

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I thought he did OK ... opinions eh

He was fine. I’d have him starting every week.

***BSEJVT*** · 21-10-2017 05:35 PM

I thought he was very poor and it was an awful decision to start him.

He has IMO been poor in the limited appearances he has made this season.

He probably needs a run of games to get up to speed but I don't see him getting them short of a Whittaker injury.

Whittaker is a far more creative player and only a marginally poorer defender.

**hibs#1** · 21-10-2017 05:39 PM

Didn't think he was bad,did think Whittaker was a lot better though.

***JimBHibees*** · 21-10-2017 05:43 PM

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I did too

Thought he was fine gave ball away a couple of times but thought he defended ok and kept Sinclair quieter than he was in the second half. Lost lustig second goal but bread and butter save for the goalie.

**~~The_Horde~~** · 21-10-2017 05:43 PM

Found out on the ball at this level

***Billy Whizz*** · 21-10-2017 05:47 PM

Maybe time for David to look at playing centre back

**Pretty Boy** · 21-10-2017 05:49 PM

I love the man but we improved massively on the right hand side when he was replaced. Not solely down to that one change but Whittaker utilised the space Tierney gave us far better than Gray did.

**S4uzee** · 21-10-2017 05:51 PM

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I love the man but we improved massively on the right hand side when he was replaced. Not solely down to that one change but Whittaker utilised the space Tierney gave us far better than Gray did.

I honestly think some of the criticism is a bit OTT! It doesn’t help playing Slivka wide right, where he should never be played IMO. If someone is out wide you need pace

**Pretty Boy** · 21-10-2017 05:54 PM

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I honestly think some of the criticism is a bit OTT! It doesn’t help playing Slivka wide right, where he should never be played IMO. If someone is out wide you need pace IMO

I agree Slivka is wasted out there. He looked much better when moved into the middle.

**B.H.F.C** · 21-10-2017 05:59 PM

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Maybe time for David to look at playing centre back

Not for me, he's only 28 and hasn't looked any good in his natural position this year. I thought he was average, at best, for much of last year too.

As long as Whittaker is fit, Gray is really going to struggle for game time IMO.

**~~IGRIGI~~** · 21-10-2017 06:03 PM

Thought he lost his man at the 2nd goal but apart from that I didn't see much wrong with his performance.

Whittaker did offer a lot more when he came on so I'd be given him the start for the derby.

**hibbydog** · 21-10-2017 06:06 PM

Sir David Gray is always going to be solid, dependable and unspectacular. He was poor today though.

It’s very difficult not to let the events of 21.05.16 cloud our judgment. He is a cup final winning, last minute goal scoring legend.

And he can marry my daughter if he wants to...

***Billy Whizz*** · 21-10-2017 06:13 PM

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Not for me, he's only 28 and hasn't looked any good in his natural position this year. I thought he was average, at best, for much of last year too.

As long as Whittaker is fit, Gray is really going to struggle for game time IMO.

I think he could play in a 3, not in a 2

**Tyler Durden** · 21-10-2017 06:16 PM

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I love the man but we improved massively on the right hand side when he was replaced. Not solely down to that one change but Whittaker utilised the space Tierney gave us far better than Gray did.

Whittaker also had people to aim a cross at. Gray was getting the ball and could either aim for Stokes alone or turn back. That was down to our poor tactics.