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    Defence Secretary Michael Fallon has resigned. Blimey!
    Why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by heretoday View Post
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    Defence Secretary Michael Fallon has resigned. Blimey!
    From the cabinet, not as an MP, sadly. The wafer thin Tory majority stays the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba View Post
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    Why?
    Inappropriate behaviour, the list of MPs and their alleged misdemeanours is on the US Observer site. Boris is on it.

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    I didn't say, or mean, the sole arbiter. But he/she is entitled to say or show how they feel..

    Mental health issues or not, if they communicate that they are uncomfortable or upset, and the perpetrator continues to act in the same way, knowing the upset that is being caused, then hell mend them.
    I think perhaps Hibrandenburg in his post #54 describes exactly what you describe.

    "It annoys the **** out of me and I keep telling them to stop but that only works for a short period of time before it kicks back in."

    If you were to focus only on the actee's feelings and ignore all context, including the intentions of the actor, you would be more or less calling Hibrandenburg's office colleagues sexual abusers.

    Think before calling people sexual abusers, or harassers, there have to be publicly known rules. eg Squeezing a thirty four year old's knee in London or Saudi will be all over the news media fifteen years from now and you'll lose your job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba View Post
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    Why?
    Too early to say. His own explanation, for gullible four year olds, was that some past behaviour had been inappropriate for a representative of the armed forces. I'm thinking possibly a major currie incident.

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    I think perhaps Hibrandenburg in his post #54 describes exactly what you describe.

    "It annoys the **** out of me and I keep telling them to stop but that only works for a short period of time before it kicks back in."

    If you were to focus only on the actee's feelings and ignore all context, including the intentions of the actor, you would be more or less calling Hibrandenburg's office colleagues sexual abusers.

    Think before calling people sexual abusers, or harassers, there have to be publicly known rules. eg Squeezing a thirty four year old's knee in London or Saudi will be all over the news media fifteen years from now and you'll lose your job.
    Rules would be helpful, of course, but who sets them?

    In an ideal world, we would all have the same boundaries and standards. But, of course, we don't... "one person's banter is another's abuse .." etc etc. Whilst that is the case, I'm not sure prescriptive rules can be set and applied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    Too early to say. His own explanation, for gullible four year olds, was that some past behaviour had been inappropriate for a representative of the armed forces. I'm thinking possibly a major currie incident.

    I think that was John Major!!

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    Elphicke out from the Tories.

    Iíve met him and Iím a bit surprised at this.

    I wonder who is taking the role of witchfinder general in the party at the moment. Feels like scores are being settled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    Too early to say. His own explanation, for gullible four year olds, was that some past behaviour had been inappropriate for a representative of the armed forces. I'm thinking possibly a major currie incident.
    He made an inappropriate remark to foxy Andrea Leadsom in a cabinet meeting. Modesty forbids me repeating it here.

    Sunday papers will probably have more. It's a field day for the press all right.

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    It's a field day for the press all right.
    Have any media commentators called for people who put their hand on someone else's bottom 15 years ago to have the hand cut off yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    Have any media commentators called for people who put their hand on someone else's bottom 15 years ago to have the hand cut off yet?
    Oh dear, I bet my gastroenterologist will be ****ting bricks.

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    Oh dear, I bet my gastroenterologist will be ****ting bricks.
    That would be up rather than on, so he/she will be safe.

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    Interesting discussion on 5Live just now.....

    Do the revelations about someone's private life affect your view of their work? The discussion centred on public figures, of course, such as actors and politicians, but equally the principle might include others.

    For me, my initial emotional reaction on hearing about Spacey was "ah, ****.... no". Entirely selfish, of course, as he's been one of my favourite actors for a long time. Can I still appreciate his work now, without being affected by what he is like as a person? Time will tell.

    There are others whose private lives we tend to ignore when we summarise them, principally because of the "good" they've done. JFK, Martin Luther King, Gandhi..... Glitter.

    Is that fair, or is it "just" human nature?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Interesting discussion on 5Live just now.....

    Do the revelations about someone's private life affect your view of their work? The discussion centred on public figures, of course, such as actors and politicians, but equally the principle might include others.

    For me, my initial emotional reaction on hearing about Spacey was "ah, ****.... no". Entirely selfish, of course, as he's been one of my favourite actors for a long time. Can I still appreciate his work now, without being affected by what he is like as a person? Time will tell.

    There are others whose private lives we tend to ignore when we summarise them, principally because of the "good" they've done. JFK, Martin Luther King, Gandhi..... Glitter.

    Is that fair, or is it "just" human nature?
    Yea heard that. Was that Emma Barnett's programme ? They were discussing attitudes to Bill Wyman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Betty Boop View Post
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    Yea heard that. Was that Emma Barnett's programme ? They were discussing attitudes to Bill Wyman.
    Not sure who's it was. But interesting debate....been thinking about it a lot.

    In years gone by, I'd not be interested in a politician's private life. It's their ability that was important. Now I'm less sure....

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Not sure who's it was. But interesting debate....been thinking about it a lot.

    In years gone by, I'd not be interested in a politician's private life. It's their ability that was important. Now I'm less sure....

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    Depends if their private life is actually them abusing their position and others I suppose...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyeSloan View Post
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    Depends if their private life is actually them abusing their position and others I suppose...
    Indeed.

    That touches on another aspect of the debate. Some people are attracted to people in "power" ( be that political or celebrity). Is a resultant relationship an abuse of that power, or is it consensual and thus acceptable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Indeed.

    That touches on another aspect of the debate. Some people are attracted to people in "power" ( be that political or celebrity). Is a resultant relationship an abuse of that power, or is it consensual and thus acceptable?

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    What about Wyman then ? These days he'd be seen as a paedophile surely ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Betty Boop View Post
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    What about Wyman then ? These days he'd be seen as a paedophile surely ?
    Imo, much of what he did wasn't consensual, in that many of the females were under the age of consent. So, yes, he was.

    Doesn't spoil my love of Tumbling Dice, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Imo, much of what he did wasn't consensual, in that many of the females were under the age of consent. So, yes, he was.

    Doesn't spoil my love of Tumbling Dice, though.

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    Same

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    And next.... Louis CK.

    I'm about to have that same work/person conversation with my oldest.

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    Seemingly George Bush (snr) accused of letting his paws stray into a few no-go zones (six locations and counting).
    I suspect however, he's done a lot of worse things to the populus of the world than buttock grabbing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snooky View Post
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    Seemingly George Bush (snr) accused of letting his paws stray into a few no-go zones (six locations and counting).
    I suspect however, he's done a lot of worse things to the populus of the world than buttock grabbing.
    The current incumbent has form for grabbing bottoms (of sorts) as well!

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