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    Harvey Weinstein

    Hopefully we will now see the last of the appalling casting couch culture. I suspect the HW allegations are only the tip of the iceberg.
    It is worth noting that this situation does not only apply to women. There have been suggestions in the past that James Dean may have 'succumbed' to forward his career.


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    Quote Originally Posted by snooky View Post
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    It is worth noting that this situation does not only apply to women.
    I think it pretty much does.

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    There's been a culture of this in Hollywood since silent movie times and it probably had to come to a head eventually. It would be interesting in a fly on the wall sort of way over these decades to see exactly how the culture developed .... I don't think I'm being too controversial in saying there has to be a chicken and egg element to it.

    How often has 'what will you do to get the part' been 'I'll do anything to get the part' .............. Before I get jumped on don't think for a second I'm condoning the actions of HW because I'm not, but I think it would be naÔve to pretend the road to this situation was littered with one way street signs and in part at least encouraged folk like HW to push their luck with any young actress who knocked on their door.


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    There's been a culture of this in Hollywood since silent movie times and it probably had to come to a head eventually. It would be interesting in a fly on the wall sort of way over these decades to see exactly how the culture developed .... I don't think I'm being too controversial in saying there has to be a chicken and egg element to it.

    How often has 'what will you do to get the part' been 'I'll do anything to get the part' .............. Before I get jumped on don't think for a second I'm condoning the actions of HW because I'm not, but I think it would be naÔve to pretend the road to this situation was littered with one way street signs and in part at least encouraged folk like HW to push their luck with any young actress who knocked on their door.

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    Think I'll opt for the marginally less controversial topic of Why is his surname pronounced WineSteen? Shirley it ought to be WineStine or WeenSteen? Outrageous.

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    Has he been arrested yet? If not, why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    Has he been arrested yet? If not, why not?
    Power. He has plenty of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    Has he been arrested yet? If not, why not?
    Due process, I 'spect....

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    Think I'll opt for the marginally less controversial topic of Why is his surname pronounced WineSteen? Shirley it ought to be WineStine or WeenSteen? Outrageous.
    Think it depends on whether or not you are Scottish ........ When I was a kid I was pals with a family of 'Steens' and of course there's Jock 'Steen'

    But Rick 'Steen' the English TV chef is Rick 'Stine' and then there's American Chris 'Stein' of popular 1980's beat combo Blondie

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    I always called Rick Stein - Steen, until he did a show where he went to Germany where the Stines were big wheels. Some long lost uncle left no will and Rick ended up with enough cash to buy his first restaurant.

    incidently, they are pronounced Stine.

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    The guy is disgusting, but he's been all over the news for days, and it's as if the UK media is assuming we should know who he is. I can't be the only one who had never heard of him?
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    Hereís one

    Edinburgh - Ed-in-bu-ra
    Pittsburgh - Pitts-berg

    Go figure?

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    Looks like another person who will be deemed guilty of anything that anyone says he's done. Not a lot of use of the word 'alleged' when his victims are discussed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NAE NOOKIE View Post
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    Think it depends on whether or not you are Scottish ........ When I was a kid I was pals with a family of 'Steens' and of course there's Jock 'Steen'

    But Rick 'Steen' the English TV chef is Rick 'Stine' and then there's American Chris 'Stein' of popular 1980's beat combo Blondie
    Nobody calls the scientific genius Norman Einstein "IneSteen". The notorious fat perv's surname is the same with a W in front. It should be WineStine unless he's a fat Scottish perv, in which case perhaps WeenSteen. "WineSteen" is illogical captain. Other W*n*st**n suggestions are available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newry Hibs View Post
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    Looks like another person who will be deemed guilty of anything that anyone says he's done. Not a lot of use of the word 'alleged' when his victims are discussed.
    Probably because the victims been coming forward in their dozens. Which is what normally happens when you have a serial sexual predator unmasked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    Think I'll opt for the marginally less controversial topic of Why is his surname pronounced WineSteen? Shirley it ought to be WineStine or WeenSteen? Outrageous.
    Calm down, LH. If you're not careful, you might turn into Harvey Wallbanger


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bristolhibby View Post
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    Hereís one

    Edinburgh - Ed-in-bu-ra
    Pittsburgh - Pitts-berg

    Go figure?

    J
    Different but at least consistent within countries. Edinburgh, Fraserburgh, Leverburgh, Peterborough.
    Pittsburgh, St Petersburg.

    Harv the perv's surname isn't even consistent in itself!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newry Hibs View Post
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    Looks like another person who will be deemed guilty of anything that anyone says he's done. Not a lot of use of the word 'alleged' when his victims are discussed.
    Given that he has checked himself into rehab, I'd say he has admitted being guilty of something.

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    A different but related issue: did anyone see the news report last week about the young woman who was sexually assaulted THREE times whilst walking home at night in London? Not the same perpetrator but three separate incidents. This surely couldn't be a coincidence: are there men roaming our cities at night actively looking for women to assault; for vulnerable prey? Being a man, it isn't something I need worry about; I just assume I will get to my destination safely, but this story made me think about how I can take my safety for granted and needn't worry about harassment or worse on routine journeys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    Nobody calls the scientific genius Norman Einstein "IneSteen". The notorious fat perv's surname is the same with a W in front. It should be WineStine unless he's a fat Scottish perv, in which case perhaps WeenSteen. "WineSteen" is illogical captain. Other W*n*st**n suggestions are available.
    VineShtine, I think would be the original German pronunciation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Due process, I 'spect....

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    Not think he should have been at least questioned by now rather than swanning off to rehab?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    Not think he should have been at least questioned by now rather than swanning off to rehab?
    TBH, I'd rather the police took their time to investigate the complaints properly, and ignored the noise. The starting-point for that would be the complainants themselves; hearing their statements, and doing everything professionally.

    It's the best way to get any justice, IMO. Otherwise, HW has the resources to challenge every little scrap of evidence.

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    Lewd behaviour never done Trump any harm, as per his conversation admitting to groping and trying to kiss women.

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    Was it not Corey Feldman and few other ex 'child actors' who tried to raise the lid on a massive hollywood peado ring a few years back. I wonder if this instance helps lift the lid on that as well. Heres hoping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    TBH, I'd rather the police took their time to investigate the complaints properly, and ignored the noise. The starting-point for that would be the complainants themselves; hearing their statements, and doing everything professionally.

    It's the best way to get any justice, IMO. Otherwise, HW has the resources to challenge every little scrap of evidence.

    If he stayed in the UK he would have been arrested by now and remanded in custody so the police investigate things, sure i read there had been a complaint of rape from one victim, should be enough to charge him, but no doubt in USA he will get bailed quite easily, sure he will have the money to pay the bail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibee87 View Post
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    Was it not Corey Feldman and few other ex 'child actors' who tried to raise the lid on a massive hollywood peado ring a few years back. I wonder if this instance helps lift the lid on that as well. Heres hoping.
    Heart-rending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Yeah, thats what I was thinking of. Lets hope its all exposed of the back of this (being ignored for 6 years, at least, must be difficult for him)

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    Quote Originally Posted by NAE NOOKIE View Post
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    There's been a culture of this in Hollywood since silent movie times and it probably had to come to a head eventually. It would be interesting in a fly on the wall sort of way over these decades to see exactly how the culture developed .... I don't think I'm being too controversial in saying there has to be a chicken and egg element to it.

    How often has 'what will you do to get the part' been 'I'll do anything to get the part' .............. Before I get jumped on don't think for a second I'm condoning the actions of HW because I'm not, but I think it would be naÔve to pretend the road to this situation was littered with one way street signs and in part at least encouraged folk like HW to push their luck with any young actress who knocked on their door.

    You mean.... women have been asked if they want to play a game that has had its rules set by men? And, if they don't play it, they automatically lose?

    That's the patriarchy, sadly, and doesn't just apply to showbiz.

    Of all the comments that have been flying around, the one I found most baffling was Donna Karan's. A woman who has made a career out of designing clothes for women, and she suggests that some women might have been "asking for it." https://www.theguardian.com/film/201...einstein-women

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    Were The Eagles singing about this creep on their track, The King Of Hollywood?

    Listen to the lyrics.

    https://youtu.be/ga0VeZyQLhg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim44 View Post
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    Were The Eagles singing about this creep on their track, The King Of Hollywood?

    Listen to the lyrics.

    https://youtu.be/ga0VeZyQLhg
    I'd doubt it. That's from the late 70's, before Miramax took off.

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