Pretty disappointed in this to be honest.
Yes Strachan hasn't been perfect but then who is? Given the resources he has I think he was doing okay and beginning to build a good team.
However our problem is that we don't have decent centrebacks, apart from Griffiths we don't have good forwards and we don't have the midfielders that consistently do the game changing work.
Changing manager isn't going to solve year's of under investment in proper training and development.
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12-10-2017 03:06 PM #181
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12-10-2017 03:13 PM #184
Who was the dutch guy that did well with South Korea? Think he managed Chelski a couple of times as caretaker.
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12-10-2017 03:13 PM #185
Doesn't matter who they appoint.
Bigger structural issues in the game.
They could hire Pep or Jose but still wouldn't qualify.
Scotland won't qualify for a major tournament until changes are made.
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12-10-2017 03:14 PM #188This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuotePM Awards General Poster of The Year 2015, 2016, 2017. Probably robbed in other years
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12-10-2017 03:17 PM #189This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Guus Hiddink.
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12-10-2017 03:18 PM #190
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Why is it that despite boys football clubs typically going for a good big yin over a good wee yin do we rarely find big yins who develop as top class players - eg our centrebacks are poor, we never produce good tall centre forwards and we never find good tall midfielders.
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12-10-2017 03:20 PM #191This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
We should do all we can to try and get him in, ticks every box, apart from being English (or not Scottish) and that would soon be forgotten after a few good results
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12-10-2017 03:38 PM #193
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12-10-2017 04:06 PM #195
Best bets are probably Lambert, Moyes and Mackay.
Would prefer they went for Sam Allardice but expect one of the above list.
Folk on JKB were asking for Ryan Giggs, Roy Keane etc - Bizarre.
Similarly Souness on here. He is a fourth rate manager and importantly a tenth rate man manager.
Think people believe their management abilities mirror their abilities as players. Not so.
The great thing about Strachan was his man management.
Under previous managers top players refused to play, retired prematurely from international football, got in the crapola through alcohol, decided to play for the Republic of Ireland instead of the the country of their birth. None of that happened under Strachan. This all appears to have been overlooked by many calling for him to go.
I didn't always agree with his selections but make no mistake whoever is chosen will quickly get called useless and most supporters will disagree with his player selections.
Too old, English Championship, Old Firm centric, not playing the players on form etc etc.
Saying that the new guy has a chance. He has the free kick talisman that is the thumb and two top players in Robertson and Tierney.
Just need a few more to add the necessary 10% extra quality required to push us over the next qualification line.
I believe we will qualify for the 2020 Euro's if we make the right appointment, that is a manager with a proven high level management record who is a great man manager and who can put together a team that plays better than the sum of it's limited parts. Would go for Allardice in a shot.Last edited by CMurdoch; 12-10-2017 at 04:10 PM.
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12-10-2017 04:30 PM #197
disappointed :( i hope whoever is the new coach plays in-form players, and not afraid to play young guys, they can't gain experience if they can't get a game
p.s. and doesn't play sellicks forrest, a hugely overrated player(IMO)
p.p.s. and get shot of all businessmen that are in the SFALast edited by cabbageandribs1875; 12-10-2017 at 04:32 PM.
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12-10-2017 04:32 PM #198This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I don't think you motivate modern footballers by ranting, raving and either threatening violence or actually inflicting it.
You need to tread that fine line of being the players' best friend whilst also having them being terrified of you as you are the one that can take away the thing that they want more than anything - their place in the team, their position as a professional footballer (in this case an Internationalist) and all that goes with it.
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12-10-2017 04:47 PM #200hfc rdLeft by mutual consent!This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Couldn't agree more
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12-10-2017 04:49 PM #201
Not surprised by this news and I think it's for the best. There are a whole lot of other problems to deal with though before Scottish football is going to be able to move forward.
We're still light years away from other countries of a similar size (and sometimes even smaller) to ourselves and getting rid of Strachan isn't going to resolve these issues.
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12-10-2017 05:04 PM #202
One body running the game would be a start. Make the aim football performance and not TV gererated money and two clubs in paricular driving things.
Start with larger leagues to facilitate youth progression instead of the wall they seem to hit at 18/19. Reserve league so instead of playing against your peers past the age of 18/19 you are tested against older pros.
Improves facilities or actually using the exsisting ones. Opening up the school astro turfs to all and free would be a start. Get kids playing againbecause these days they cant for a number of reasons kick the ball about the streets.
If these types of things are not addressed it wont matter who is in charge of the national squad.
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12-10-2017 05:16 PM #204
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41600788
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12-10-2017 05:19 PM #205
How sweeping are the changes that we REALLY need to make though?
We missed out on a play-off on goal difference. Craig Gordon comes off his line v England to make an easy catch and we're in a playoff. We're a year unbeaten having played trickyish games against England, Slovakia and Slovenia (twice).
Yes, Iceland are doing well. But how far is our footballing infrastructure behind that of Wales, Northern Ireland or the Republic of Ireland? (Whilst acknowledging we have issues that need to be addressed and areas we can improve).
For all I like Strachan, he can be a prickly wee git. You could imagine him being asked a perfectly reasonable question about what he has learnt, what he thought he got wrong, and what he plans to do about it and being an obnoxious fud about it giving them little choice but to give him his jotters.
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Strachan didn't help himself with his boorish media persona. The accusations of inflexibility over player selection also contributed to his demise and questions were rightly raised about his reluctance to integrate emerging talent into the side. In saying that I remember Craig Brown got it tight about the same things. Difference being that he had the side qualifying for major tournaments.
Strachan's reign promised more than it delivered. Ultimately, he failed at two major tournaments. Some good results and some very poor ones. There was a lack of consistency and that cost us dearly.
In terms of future appointments. I think we do need to broaden the scope of choices and try and find a mature manager who is at the stage of their career who is content with the sporadic nature of fixtures and who has a track record of getting the most out of their players. Happy for a non Scot to be given the role.
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12-10-2017 05:34 PM #208
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Will be interesting to see who the SFA go for next. In terms of continuity and giving younger players a chance, I wonder about Scot Gemmill. Coached Scotland at u17, u19 and currently u21 so has come through with the players. Has had decent results at all these levels and so could be ideal to bring the next generation through...?
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12-10-2017 05:41 PM #210
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Wonder if Stubbs would be interested? With Rod on SFA board, Stubbs’ name may well be discussed.
Good with the media, excellent man manager - I think he’d be a good appointment.
His last result at Hampden was pretty decent! 😂
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