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    Happy to pay it.

    Itís where I come for all my news. I also regularly watch BBC 4 and listen to their local and national radio channels.

    I used to grudge paying it but it least it has a policy of impartiality, unlike other outlets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
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    Happy to pay it.

    Itís where I come for all my news. I also regularly watch BBC 4 and listen to their local and national radio channels.

    I used to grudge paying it but it least it has a policy of impartiality, unlike other outlets.
    Impartiality?
    Youíre at it?
    Hahaha if the BBC is know for anything it is known for its bias.

    On another note it is interesting to read that there is no need for a TV License to listen to their radio programmes.

    Or that is what I think I read above anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Trager View Post
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    Impartiality?
    You’re at it?
    Hahaha if the BBC is know for anything it is known for its bias.

    On another note it is interesting to read that there is no need for a TV License to listen to their radio programmes.

    Or that is what I think I read above anyway
    I know what the BBC are like and admittedly it's a damining indictment of other outlets when I say they are relatively impartial.

    Also, I don't think of the licence fee as a TV subscription. Does it not fund all the other services such as the radio channels, the website and all the on-demand services?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Trager View Post
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    Impartiality?
    Youíre at it?
    Hahaha if the BBC is know for anything it is known for its bias
    I couldn't agree more and a quick internet search will back you up.

    The Tories hate the BBC because of its left wing bias to the extent that they formally complained about the leaders' debate in June, even though their leader didn't attend.

    The Labour Party hate it because of it's pro conservative bias, to the extent that Laura Kuenssberg received death threats from activists and felt the need to hire a bodyguard to do her job at their conference last week.

    And the SNP hate the BBC because it gives publicity to the views of all the political parties in the UK, the majority of which are pro union.

    If only the BBC was as neutral as, er, well, let me think ...
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    Wouldn't it be great, if all the money raised in Scotland, was spent in Scotland.

    #bbcquestiontimeisscottish...really.

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    Wouldn't it be great, if all the money raised in Scotland, was spent in Scotland.

    #bbcquestiontimeisscottish...really.
    No not really
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scouse Hibby View Post
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    No not really
    Why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronaldo7 View Post
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    Why not?
    Is it not better to pool the money and produce better quality programs that everyone in the UK can enjoy? Forgetting about flags for five minutes is worth it when youíre watching a fantastic drama or documentary.

    Where would it end? All the money raised by Edinburgh folks being spent in Edinburgh? All weíd have is a posh River City, documentaries about the same subjects and local news bulletins where the main story is a cat being stuck up a tree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronaldo7 View Post
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    Why not?
    I would much rather the revenue raised in total was split more evenly rather than just a commitment to spend only what is raised in Scotland on Scotland or Wales etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scouse Hibby View Post
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    I would much rather the revenue raised in total was split more evenly rather than just a commitment to spend only what is raised in Scotland on Scotland or Wales etc.


    TV is about more than politics. Even the staunchest of Nationalists have to admit that when it comes to popular culture, the UK is second to none.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
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    TV is about more than politics. Even the staunchest of Nationalists have to admit that when it comes to popular culture, the UK is second to none.
    When it comes to quality of tv then I'll agree with you. But is having a tv culture a good thing? If sporting, music, art and other cultural events are not covered on telly then people tend to get off their erses and actually visit them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg View Post
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    When it comes to quality of tv then I'll agree with you. But is having a tv culture a good thing? If sporting, music, art and other cultural events are not covered on telly then people tend to get off their erses and actually visit them.
    I see where youíre coming from but will an appearance on Joolz Holland raise an unknown bands profile and help pack out their next gig? Will a documentary on Van Gogh inspire someone to pick up a brush or visit a gallery?

    I donít think thereís a problem with high quality content creating a negative culture...itís all the other crap like reality TV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scouse Hibby View Post
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    I would much rather the revenue raised in total was split more evenly rather than just a commitment to spend only what is raised in Scotland on Scotland or Wales etc.
    I would tend to agree - if I lived in England.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
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    I see where youíre coming from but will an appearance on Joolz Holland raise an unknown bands profile and help pack out their next gig? Will a documentary on Van Gogh inspire someone to pick up a brush or visit a gallery?

    I donít think thereís a problem with high quality content creating a negative culture...itís all the other crap like reality TV.
    Jools Holland is brilliant publicity for up and coming bands, as was "The Tube" in it's day. Bands will do anything for such exposure.

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    I would tend to agree - if I lived in England.
    I live in Scotland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scouse Hibby View Post
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    I would much rather the revenue raised in total was split more evenly rather than just a commitment to spend only what is raised in Scotland on Scotland or Wales etc.
    That would be a start.

    We currently raise approx. £320Million in Scotland, with only £190Million spent here on programming.

    Just think of all the jobs, and new programmes which could be made here.

    At the moment, it's all taken to London, and they decide what programmes are made in Scotland, hence my, #questiontime

    Maybe we could get BBC Scotland to bid for some of our matches live, instead of giving vast sums to supposed celebrities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Trager View Post
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    Impartiality?
    Youíre at it?
    Hahaha if the BBC is know for anything it is known for its bias.

    On another note it is interesting to read that there is no need for a TV License to listen to their radio programmes.

    Or that is what I think I read above anyway
    Its funny that everyone seems to think its biased against their personal view though.

    People hear what they want to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthsideHarp_Bhoy View Post
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    Its funny that everyone seems to think its biased against their personal view though.

    People hear what they want to.
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    BBC output is pretty good.

    STV output is dreadful.

    I dont know if that adds anything, but if a 'Scottish' BBC went tye way of ITV it would be a disaster.

    Also lets have it right here... nationalists hate the BBC because it is a bastion (and a fairly popular one at that) of British identity. It has nothing to do with programmes it does or doesnt make or salaries it does or doesnt pay, its because they see it as a barrier to independence that needs to be dismantled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthsideHarp_Bhoy View Post
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    Its funny that everyone seems to think its biased against their personal view though.

    People hear what they want to.
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    Spot on.



    Ive heard pro independence folk saying the BBC is biased against them, heard pro union folk say the same thing.

    Same concept when both sets of fans at a match will say the ref was crap/poor/biased against their team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McD View Post
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    Ive heard pro independence folk saying the BBC is biased against them, heard pro union folk say the same thing.

    Same concept when both sets of fans at a match will say the ref was crap/poor/biased against their team.

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    Debating whether or not to buy the TV license, wondering what other folksí thoughts are on the whole thing?
    Watch out, out there.

    Big Brother is listening.

    http://news-watch.co.uk/category/licence-fee/

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    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7842131.html

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    if youíre happy to lay Gary Linekar 1.3 or 1.7M a year, not sure what one it is
    I'm more upset that Jackie Bird still gets paid by the BBC tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthsideHarp_Bhoy View Post
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    Its funny that everyone seems to think its biased against their personal view though.

    People hear what they want to.
    I was pretty much undecided how to vote through most of the independence referendum, so I have no axe to grind on the issue but I thought it was blindingly obvious the BBCs news output was pro union. Blatantly so, the Nick Robinson Alex Salmond exchange just the most blatant of many examples.

    Perhaps weirdly, I still support the BBC because I just don't like commercials. If it's live TV it's got to be BBC for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibsbollah View Post
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    I was pretty much undecided how to vote through most of the independence referendum, so I have no axe to grind on the issue but I thought it was blindingly obvious the BBCs news output was pro union. Blatantly so, the Nick Robinson Alex Salmond exchange just the most blatant of many examples.

    Perhaps weirdly, I still support the BBC because I just don't like commercials. If it's live TV it's got to be BBC for me.
    Fair enough.

    There will always be individual biases and antipathies that come through, even unconsciously. Maybe Robinson is an arch-unionist, maybe he just hates Salmond, maybe both.

    But that is a long way from a corporate or institutional bias. Given the way politixs is split in this country, id imagine BBC Scotland has as many SNP supporters than it does of other parties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthsideHarp_Bhoy View Post
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    Fair enough.

    There will always be individual biases and antipathies that come through, even unconsciously. Maybe Robinson is an arch-unionist, maybe he just hates Salmond, maybe both.

    But that is a long way from a corporate or institutional bias. Given the way politixs is split in this country, id imagine BBC Scotland has as many SNP supporters than it does of other parties.
    Nick Robinson was president of Oxford University Conservative Association so I think it's fair guess he's an arch unionist, yes

    The BBC Head of News James Harding (ex head in fact, he's left his job today to set up an independent media company) is George Osbornes confidant, best man at his wedding and worked closely under Rupert Murdoch at The Times. Osbornes of course now heads up the Standard. These are the kind of people at the top of the media pyramid and they are also very close to the very top of Tory establishment. TV Journalists? Used to be a career for lots of left leaning graduates benefitting from red brick universities and universal education in the 60s and 70s (Thatcher and Tebbit in particular hated the BBC and it probably was quite soft 'posh' left back in the day) but now is increasingly ex private school. The argument goes that as professional media people all these people leave their politics at the door...but its up to individuals if they believe that I suppose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hibsbollah View Post
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    Nick Robinson was president of Oxford University Conservative Association so I think it's fair guess he's an arch unionist, yes

    The BBC Head of News James Harding (ex head in fact, he's left his job today to set up an independent media company) is George Osbornes confidant, best man at his wedding and worked closely under Rupert Murdoch at The Times. Osbornes of course now heads up the Standard. These are the kind of people at the top of the media pyramid and they are also very close to the very top of Tory establishment. TV Journalists? Used to be a career for lots of left leaning graduates benefitting from red brick universities and universal education in the 60s and 70s (Thatcher and Tebbit in particular hated the BBC and it probably was quite soft 'posh' left back in the day) but now is increasingly ex private school. The argument goes that as professional media people all these people leave their politics at the door...but its up to individuals if they believe that I suppose.
    Up to their necks in it.

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