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    lewis Stevenson

    Needs brought back in the team ASAP.Whittaker in my opinion has been gash.

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    Without slating Whitty who I agree has been poir, we need Lewis back in the side.

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    How would Lewis playing effect the outcome today? I don't get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post
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    How would Lewis playing effect the outcome today? I don't get it.
    He's a better left back than Whittaker, on today's showing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matty_f View Post
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    He's a better left back than Whittaker, on today's showing.
    Perhaps. Would it have changed the outcome of today? Whittaker and Gray struggled at times last Season. Him not being there today wouldn't have changed much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post
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    Perhaps. Would it have changed the outcome of today? Whittaker and Gray struggled at times last Season. Him not being there today wouldn't have changed much.
    Impossible to say, but I reckon he'd have made life harder for Moult for the first goal.
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    Whittaker has lost his pace. Genuinely looks like a player his age. ludicrous to give him a 3 year old, stevenson should be our left back IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post
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    Perhaps. Would it have changed the outcome of today? Whittaker and Gray struggled at times last Season. Him not being there today wouldn't have changed much.
    Think your the one getting mixed up!
    Whittaker wasn't here last season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by penihibs View Post
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    Think your the one getting mixed up!
    Whittaker wasn't here last season.
    Meant Stevenson sorry.

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    How would Lewis playing effect the outcome today? I don't get it.
    His ball distribution is far better than Whittakers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Libertine View Post
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    His ball distribution is far better than Whittakers.
    I would disagree. At least Whittaker try's to attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post
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    I would disagree. At least Whittaker try's to attack.
    So does Stevenson .... the biggest criticism of him is that he gets into decent positions but regularly fails to put in a decent ball. The whole point of Whittaker was that even though he is limited as a defender he would bring much more to the table than Stevenson in the final third, so far apart from one very good ball against Dundee he hasn't, even Stevenson was capable of one very good ball into the box every 5 games or so.

    In view of that and also the fact that we are playing a left winger sacrificing Stevenson's defensive capability in order to accommodate Whittaker seems like an absolute waste of time.
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    I think Lennon will stick with Whittaker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Libertine View Post
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    His ball distribution is far better than Whittakers.
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    Stevenson did not deserve to be dropped to begin with. Whittaker appears to be no better than Gray at RB so I'm not sure why he was even signed.

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    Get a grip, you honestly saying lewis doesn't get forward.
    Whittaker in his first spell with us wasent the greatest defender brilliant going forward.
    Lewis is a legend! Every Manager has played him, double cup winner how many of them have we had ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by penihibs View Post
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    Get a grip, you honestly saying lewis doesn't get forward.
    Whittaker in his first spell with us wasent the greatest defender brilliant going forward.
    Lewis is a legend! Every Manager has played him, double cup winner how many of them have we had ??
    Your mixing up Lewis the legend with being average all last season. Steve son wouldn't have changed today's outcome, Whittaker was poor and its highlighted big time, Lewis gets away every other week. His crossing is terrible when he's not cutting inside.

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    A defenders first job is to defend. Stevenson does the job better than a right footed player trying to fill in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post
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    Your mixing up Lewis the legend with being average all last season. Steve son wouldn't have changed today's outcome, Whittaker was poor and its highlighted big time, Lewis gets away every other week. His crossing is terrible when he's not cutting inside.
    How can anyone say if him playing could or couldn't have changed today's game? One thing I could prob say is he'd put in a better shift overall. Whitty has been really poor lately and needs dropped.

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    I never get the criticism of Lewis.

    Whittaker is better going forward.

    Lewis is a better defender, wins a lot in the air, isn't afraid to get stuck in with a meaty challenge, understands the club, bleeds passion for the club, has an outstanding workrate, doesn't hide, takes responsibility, has the best first touch of the entire team and is a role model to the younger players. He has experience of the league and of the club.

    I'm a bit biaised but I don't hide the fact that Lewis Stevenson is my all time favourite Hibee and that's because the way he plays is exemplary for the club and he's won me round to being a huge fan of what he does, never mind being in a field of one for having both a league cup and Scottish cup winners medal for Hibs.

    Get him back in the team Lennon.


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    [QUOTE=Northernhibee;5170525]I never get the criticism of Lewis.

    Whittaker is better going forward.

    Lewis is a better defender, wins a lot in the air, isn't afraid to get stuck in with a meaty challenge, understands the club, bleeds passion for the club, has an outstanding workrate, doesn't hide, takes responsibility, has the best first touch of the entire team and is a role model to the younger players. He has experience of the league and of the club.

    I'm a bit biaised but I don't hide the fact that Lewis Stevenson is my all time favourite Hibee and that's because the way he plays is exemplary for the club and he's won me round to being a huge fan of what he does, never mind being in a field of one for having both a league cup and Scottish cup winners medal for Hibs.

    Get him back in the team Lennon.[/QUO

    That sounds good to me!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northernhibee View Post
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    I never get the criticism of Lewis.

    Whittaker is better going forward.

    Lewis is a better defender, wins a lot in the air, isn't afraid to get stuck in with a meaty challenge, understands the club, bleeds passion for the club, has an outstanding workrate, doesn't hide, takes responsibility, has the best first touch of the entire team and is a role model to the younger players. He has experience of the league and of the club.

    I'm a bit biaised but I don't hide the fact that Lewis Stevenson is my all time favourite Hibee and that's because the way he plays is exemplary for the club and he's won me round to being a huge fan of what he does, never mind being in a field of one for having both a league cup and Scottish cup winners medal for Hibs.

    Get him back in the team Lennon.
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    I never get the criticism of Lewis.

    Whittaker is better going forward.

    Lewis is a better defender, wins a lot in the air, isn't afraid to get stuck in with a meaty challenge, understands the club, bleeds passion for the club, has an outstanding workrate, doesn't hide, takes responsibility, has the best first touch of the entire team and is a role model to the younger players. He has experience of the league and of the club.

    I'm a bit biaised but I don't hide the fact that Lewis Stevenson is my all time favourite Hibee and that's because the way he plays is exemplary for the club and he's won me round to being a huge fan of what he does, never mind being in a field of one for having both a league cup and Scottish cup winners medal for Hibs.

    Get him back in the team Lennon.
    What you say of Lewis is true and cant be questioned by anyone on here.

    I like Steven as a player and as i wasnt at the game yesterday so i cant comment on his or the teams standard of play.

    I do though have to concede that even at Ibrox he was posted missing at the first goal and last week in Perth i thought that too.

    He is being dragged into the middle a lot and leaves the wing player alone and open to receive the ball. His speed is slower than he was first time round and as he is a versatile player may need to play elsewhere in the team.In mucking about with our defensive line we have conceded so many goals and valuable points.

    I do not understand Lennons way of thinking in dropping Gray and then Lewis and breaking up a really tight defensive set up.

    Even our midfield with Barker in it just does not seem to be firing on all cylinders either and yet wee McGeouch is sitting on the bench

    As i say i am biased in Lewis's favour and we wont know if he would make any difference if he doesnt get his place back in the team.

    So Mr Lennon get him back in the team!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thecat23 View Post
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    How can anyone say if him playing could or couldn't have changed today's game? One thing I could prob say is he'd put in a better shift overall. Whitty has been really poor lately and needs dropped.
    You can't, of course. It wasn't the biggest issue today tho. Whittaker is getting ripped to fk and as usual anyone even remotely sticking up for the fact it would have changed very little is accused of the number 1 comfort blanket on here, Stevenson knocking. I blame a midfield collapse and a goalie issue today not Lewis not playing which is frankly ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post
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    You can't, of course. It wasn't the biggest issue today tho. Whittaker is getting ripped to fk and as usual anyone even remotely sticking up for the fact it would have changed very little is accused of the number 1 comfort blanket on here, Stevenson knocking. I blame a midfield collapse and a goalie issue today not Lewis not playing which is frankly ridiculous.
    I agree with you. I genuinely don't believe that putibg Stevenson back in the team means we go on a winning run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post
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    You can't, of course. It wasn't the biggest issue today tho. Whittaker is getting ripped to fk and as usual anyone even remotely sticking up for the fact it would have changed very little is accused of the number 1 comfort blanket on here, Stevenson knocking. I blame a midfield collapse and a goalie issue today not Lewis not playing which is frankly ridiculous.
    I think our back line may be stronger in it with Stevenson at LB that's about the only thing. Agree completely keeper and midfield cost us all 3 points today.

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    You can't, of course. It wasn't the biggest issue today tho. Whittaker is getting ripped to fk and as usual anyone even remotely sticking up for the fact it would have changed very little is accused of the number 1 comfort blanket on here, Stevenson knocking. I blame a midfield collapse and a goalie issue today not Lewis not playing which is frankly ridiculous.
    Forgetting the fact Rocky should have come for it, Whittaker had lost Moult at the goal also. Whittaker looks unbalanced at left back and unassured at times. What people are saying is there was no need to drop Lewis. I agree with that. he's quicker and more aggressive in the tackle than Whittaker and very rarely gets done for pace on the flanks. Maybe Lennon stuck him in for the height factor. Not sure, but time will tell if he's done the right thing.

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    Wee Lewis is always an easy target for a sly dig but this situation does not make sense. If Lennon doesn't rate him as a starting left back in a four at the back line up, then I can accept that. It is a manager's decision. So the common sense way forwards is surely to buy a better left back? To play a right back as a replacement does not make sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NORTHERNHIBBY View Post
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    Wee Lewis is always an easy target for a sly dig but this situation does not make sense. If Lennon doesn't rate him as a starting left back in a four at the back line up, then I can accept that. It is a manager's decision. So the common sense way forwards is surely to buy a better left back? To play a right back as a replacement does not make sense.
    This.

    I happen to like Stevenson but most of the balanced criticism that comes his way I wouldn't strongly argue against.
    There are certainly better left wing backs out there and probably better straight left backs out there.

    If Left (wing) back was a problem area we should have signed one and not signed a Right back.

    I thought it was a particularly odd choice on Saturday - Whittaker's strength is going forward which may earn him the nod if we're not playing two wingers (and even then I'd argue it should earn him the nod at right back).

    I think it's good to have more than one formation to play but I mean a couple of similar flexible line ups.
    Saturday felt very much like "Let's give this a go".

    I'd want 3 in the middle or at least 3 at the back and no defensive mid if we're playing wingers.
    I also kinda feel that with Wingers you should be committing to a formation where you play wingers rather than chopping and changing.

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