Rocky

[Borderhibbie76]

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He had a bad day .. if he hadn't I'm sure we would have seen Laidlaw on Tuesday, but not now, the last thing you want to do to your first choice keeper is bin him after one game where he was clearly at fault ..... if things don't improve then fine give Laidlaw his chance, but we are a bit off that yet IMO.

Yes he needs to be far more commanding in his 6 yard box, but as others have pointed out, what the hell are we doing giving forwards free headers at our back post anyway? and from that POV Whittaker needs looking at .... he was right back when the Huns scored at that back post at Ibrox and he was left back today where one of the most in form strikers in Scotland was twice allowed free headers at the back post which should be his responsibility.

Put it this way, if Rocky is binned on Tuesday and Whittaker isn't I'll move pretty swiftly into the camp that is starting to believe our manager isn't just using form to decide which players to pick and which ones to leave out.

Whittaker is costing us goals week in week out...he was at fault at Ibrox, Dens and McDiarmid before Sat...he really needs dropped pronto

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[MWHIBBIES]

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How much do we miss Mark Oxley, or Simon Brown, or Makalamby, or Zibi....

I feel context is getting lost in the post game knee jerk panic and extremism on here these days and people really really need to take a step back and ask if things are as bad as they think they are.

This is becoming a pretty toxic place post match...

One of those not quite like the rest. Ox wasn't spectacular but he rarely let us down and didn't sell the jersey in derbies like the other lot.

[hfc rd]

He had a poor game on Saturday but he has my full backing. Every GK has a bad game in their career. I'm sure and have full confidence Rocky will bounce back.

[Firestarter]

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One of those not quite like the rest. Ox wasn't spectacular but he rarely let us down and didn't sell the jersey in derbies like the other lot.

Check one of his last ever games for us.

[MWHIBBIES]

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Check one of his last ever games for us.

That narrows it down.

[Firestarter]

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That narrows it down.

It's completely relevant to the second year with us imo. Anyway this about our current 'keeper and not guys deemed not good enough in the past.

[ajf]

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It's completely relevant to the second year with us imo. Anyway this about our current 'keeper and not guys deemed not good enough in the past.

He was a poor keeper tho

[heretoday]

We haven't had great goalies the last few years.
Not like in the old days.

[ajf]

[QUOTE=heretoday;5172079]We haven't had great goalies the last few years.
Not like in the old days.[/QUOTe

How long ago since we brought through a good keeper of our own , Thompson Allan ?

[jacomo]

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Seems an accepted .net fact that if Rocky is fit then he plays. After today it will be a call that Lennon will have to make. Laidlaw is worth a shout against Livingston and Ross County.

Until recently I'd agree 100% with that.

But he was murder against Motherwell.

Our defence is having a shocker at the moment.

[GreenArmyyy!]

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I must admit I never quite understood the love affair on here with Rocky but I'm always unwilling to join in personal criticism of any of our players. I genuinely however don't see a great difference between Rocky & either Ben Williams or the much maligned Oxley. IMO the strength of all 3 was their shot stopping & the weakness their inability to deal with crosses. I think Rocky usually brings a sense of calm to the defence but that plus will soon disappear if he loses the support of the crowd. Hopefully he can sort it out in training but I would play Ross on Tuesday.

Mentioning Ben Williams and Mark Oxley in the same sentence is ludicrous. Ben Williams in my opinion was the best keeper for us since Andersson.

[GreenArmyyy!]

I'm a bit worried about Rockys form to be honest. Personally I've noticed this nervousness from the first game this season and don't think Saturday was a one off. I think he has hugely struggling with his kicking all season and just seems to be lacking a bit of confidence, honestly can't understand what's changed between this season and last.

On a side note I'm of the opinion that Ambrose in the tense makes the whole defence more tense and liable to make mistakes, as we found out in the Hamilton game. He was brilliant in the first half on Saturday but I still find myself on edge when the ball is near him, that must transfer to his team mates at the back...

[pacoluna]

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We haven't had great goalies the last few years.
Not like in the old days.[/QUOTe

How long ago since we brought through a good keeper of our own , Thompson Allan ?

We brought through a gk who helped win us the league cup, McNeil.

[GreenArmyyy!]

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We brought through a gk who helped win us the league cup, McNeil.

Remember the 2-0 win against St Mirren back in 2006, fire at the flats behind the south stand, quite possibly the best goalkeeping performance I've ever seen at Easter Road from McNeil that day.

[oneone73]

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We brought through a gk who helped win us the league cup, McNeil.

Didn't we sign him from Southampton?

[pacoluna]

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Didn't we sign him from Southampton?

Yes but only played youth football at Southampton.

[Danderhall Hibs]

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Whittaker is costing us goals week in week out...he was at fault at Ibrox, Dens and McDiarmid before Sat...he really needs dropped pronto

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If you keep repeating something it doesn't make it true.

[stantonhibby]

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Whittaker is costing us goals week in week out...he was at fault at Ibrox, Dens and McDiarmid before Sat...he really needs dropped pronto

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Ironic that your previous post to this on this thread goes on about over reactions and then you come out with this.

[Diclonius]

Mind on Friday when Marciano was the best goalkeeper we've had in over ten years? Now he's apparently been **** for weeks and should be dropped.

Amazing how one game can revert us all back to the pre-relegation days of woe.

[brog]

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Mentioning Ben Williams and Mark Oxley in the same sentence is ludicrous. Ben Williams in my opinion was the best keeper for us since Andersson.

[Sioux]

Whittaker was absolutely culpable on Saturday. He allowed Moult to get in front of him. Poor, poor defending. Rock failing to come for the ball doesn't exonerate Whittaker.

[WhileTheChief..]

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Mind on Friday when Marciano was the best goalkeeper we've had in over ten years? Now he's apparently been **** for weeks and should be dropped.

Amazing how one game can revert us all back to the pre-relegation days of woe.

I think we're going to get this all season unfortunately.

Every time we drop points it will be cries of Lennon needs to sort it and players x, y & z aren't good enough.

Depressing reading at times.

[brog]

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Whittaker was absolutely culpable on Saturday. He allowed Moult to get in front of him. Poor, poor defending. Rock failing to come for the ball doesn't exonerate Whittaker.

We don't do zonal marking therefore Moult should not have been marked by SW. I agree the whole defending of the cross was awful but a keeper cannot fail to come for a ball 3 yards out, that's indefensible.

[Firestarter]

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Whittaker was absolutely culpable on Saturday. He allowed Moult to get in front of him. Poor, poor defending. Rock failing to come for the ball doesn't exonerate Whittaker.

He would have expected an international goalkeeper to come off his line for a ball right at him. Where's our centre defence when their biggest threat is being marked by our left back?

[Firestarter]

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We don't do zonal marking therefore Moult should not have been marked by SW. I agree the whole defending of the cross was awful but a keeper cannot fail to come for a ball 3 yards out, that's indefensible.

Doh 😁

[BoomtownHibees]

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He would have expected an international goalkeeper to come off his line for a ball right at him. Where's our centre defence when their biggest threat is being marked by our left back?

Probably marking their centre halfs

[Firestarter]

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Probably marking their centre halfs

There lies an issue.

[green day]

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I think we're going to get this all season unfortunately.

Every time we drop points it will be cries of Lennon needs to sort it and players x, y & z aren't good enough.

Depressing reading at times.

Sack the board !

Oh, no sorry my mistake that was last week

[BoomtownHibees]

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There lies an issue.

I think most teams mark against players of a similar height

[Diclonius]

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I think we're going to get this all season unfortunately.

Every time we drop points it will be cries of Lennon needs to sort it and players x, y & z aren't good enough.

Depressing reading at times.

It's a joke. This is our best squad since 2007 and that WILL be reflected in our position at the end of the season. A defeat and three draws doesn't change that.