He forgets it his team, his tactics and he's responsible- cannae blame other folk now. Never his fault. Sorry Neil, today is down to you - stop tinkering and pick your best (fit) players in the right positions.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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16-09-2017 05:35 PM #91
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16-09-2017 05:36 PM #92
Today was odd. Players were bickering with each other everywhere, and we looked completely disjointed. Hopefully it was just a bad day and there was nothing to read into.
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16-09-2017 05:37 PM #93
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16-09-2017 05:40 PM #95This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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16-09-2017 05:43 PM #96
He's hardly clueless but he certainly hasn't found his best team yet and we're not quite as good as I thought we would be so far.
Defensively we're all over the shop at times but there's certainly nothing to worry about.
Based on what I've seen so far, I think we may need to revise our expectations a wee bit. I think top six is a much more realistic target than top four.
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16-09-2017 05:44 PM #97This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
you're right and good points, but why are the players we have not up for the fight, motherwell eventually started playing like barcelona where we just simply couldn't get the ball of them, imo the players thought it was job done when we went 2 goals up
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16-09-2017 05:51 PM #98This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It wasn't all bad, but a lot of it certainly was.
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16-09-2017 05:54 PM #99
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16-09-2017 05:57 PM #100madhatterLeft by mutual consent!This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I find it poor that half of a Hibs pre-match conference was spent talking about Celtic. Really not sure why you don't...when we play Celtic will the full pre-match conference be about them?
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16-09-2017 06:02 PM #101
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I always think there are a few signs to look out for when judging a Manager.
Are we organised. I saw a very good, albeit not original, free kick at the start of the second half and a good run from Hanlon, that was clearly planned, where we got a header at the back post. Apart from that we were marked tight at throw ins and gave the ball away or into bad situations regularly. We pretty much don't mark at throw ins and allow players huge amounts of space to receive the ball. We are far to far off the opposition all around the pitch. The zone system employed at set pieces allows players to run pretty much unchallenged to the back post and doesn't handle any decent ball falling inbetween the zone. Murray had the ball for our Pen, was he meant to be taking it before Stokes grabbed it. Not sure who our corner taker is as STokes decides to take them sometimes. Our defensive line is all over the place and I have no idea who is meant to be setting our line as we often have Hanlon pushing out as Effe drops in. Whittaker and SDG are often found 5 yards behind the CBs. The line can be excused a wee bit as the positions have been changed so often its no wonder they look like they hardly know each other. The first five minutes of games look like we have no game plan whatsoever and we look a complete shambles. If we have kick off we should know exactly what we are going to do for the first move of the game. We look like we make it up at the centre spot.
Heart/Bottle Bit of a mixed report card for the team on this imo. We do seem to have a bit of heart and show reasonable levels of effort but we lack leadership when the chips are down and we are more than capable of complete collapses. We also started the season pressing teams high up the park and hunting in packs but now we seem to be sitting off and giving them the freedom of Easter Road.
Tactics - I actually think the tactics in the first half would have worked brilliantly last year where we played a stuffy, boring, often hoofball style. To be fair we went 2-0 up so they were far from a disaster but Motherwell looked very dangerous today at all times and when we went 2-0 up I think I would have got an extra body in the middle of the park to keep possession better. Our subs more often than not make us worse and when we change shape it rarely seems to work. Motherwell pushed another body up top today and we completely failed to react and looked panic stricken because our shape just wasn't working.
I have the same opinion of Lennon as when he was announced. I have no idea if he will work out or not. I think a 3 year contract is a huge gamble based on his performance so far. However, we are a couple of games away from him creeping up to an above average record or a couple of games away from a bit of a crisis. At the moment we are exactly what we were last year - bang average. His signings haven't been great again but that could change as the season wears on. The one thing I do like this season, more to do with the league than Lennon, is that at least the games are interesting. This year we have also stopped playing hoofball which is a great relief. I do have a concern over the loyalty Lennon shows some players. I saw him today lose the plot at Hanlon, our best defender on the day, for playing a floated pass that we ended up getting a throw in from. It wasn't a great ball but no harm done. I watch him when Stokes makes no effort or when Whittaker looks lazy or Ambrose does something ridiculous and he doesn't get nearly as animated. He was the same with Holt last year. It was almost as if Holt was the manager at times. He seems to have huge respect for those who have had great careers. As far as I am concerned those careers are behind them and the only thing that counts is what they do at Hibs. In fact with their experience I would be more inclined to be tearing a strip off them.
To sum up we have an average manager, he is not a winner he is more of a middle drawer, overseeing an average team in an average league. I suspect we will finish in an average position, 6th or 7th, but spend a good deal more than average and have a far bigger home crowd than average. To be honest for our first season back anything that doesn't involve a relegation battle will not be a disaster. He is often said to get Hibs. Well in my 40 odd years of watching, on average we have been an under-performing team, rarely well organised, often a bit soft in the centre and very inconsistent, we have the occasional dazzling display and some truly awful ones. In Lennon's time he has certainly proved he gets Hibs.
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16-09-2017 06:03 PM #102
Question for folk who are raging - realistically, where should we be at this stage in the season?
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16-09-2017 06:04 PM #103This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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16-09-2017 06:08 PM #104
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We have 2 really tough away games coming up before facing Aberdeen at home. A tougher run of games than we have just had imo. It's not difficult to get into a bit of a rut in this league and start sliding down the league. It's why winning when we are on top is so important.
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16-09-2017 06:21 PM #107
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Barker was the best player on the park in the first half by a country mile. I would have taken him off instead of Boyle though as he faded out the game completely and is nowhere near as good as Boyle off the ball
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16-09-2017 06:26 PM #109
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We've been out of the SPL for three years; it's going to take a while to acclimatise to a tough match every week, and that includes the manger. Lennon isn't perfect: if he was, he wouldn't be at Hibs, but we need to be realistic. Steady improvement is the key now. We'll improve as the season unfolds, and it will take good sides to finish above us. Lennon will learn along with the players.HIBERNIAN FC - ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY SINCE 1875
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16-09-2017 06:31 PM #111
4 points out of 9 at home to
partick thistle
Hamilton Accies
Motherwell
it's like going back to the old days before our stint in the championship
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16-09-2017 06:33 PM #114
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Hibs and Lennon do not control what questions the media ask him.
I don’t think Hibs pre match press conferences should be spent talking about Celtic but I prefer to blame those actually responsible for the questions instead of Neil Lennon.
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16-09-2017 06:35 PM #116
Going by this board tonight we have a clueless manager and a load of average or rubbish players.
How are we expected to win every game if this is the case?
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16-09-2017 06:37 PM #117
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We have an above average team on paper but playing less than average on the pitch, Rocky, Whittaker and McGinn need to give themselves a big shake, Lennon has been showing them some incredible loyalty, despite dropping others who have made less errors.
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16-09-2017 06:37 PM #119madhatterLeft by mutual consent!This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I do blame the shocking journalists but lets be honest Hibs and Lennon could reject the questions. I've seen other managers reject inappropriate questions many many times. Being asked about Celtic before an important match at home is inappropriate. We weren't playing Celtic so why is Lennon being asked about them? And why is he all too happy to answer? He is Hibs manager, sometimes I think he loses grasp of that when talking to the media.Last edited by madhatter; 16-09-2017 at 06:41 PM.
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