I'm not sure this should be here or in the Holy Ground.
"Labour: Scrap betting ads on football kits
Labour says it would ban gambling firms from advertising on football shirts if it came to power.
The party's deputy leader Tom Watson said football had to "play its part in tackling Britain's hidden epidemic of gambling addiction".
Nine English Premier League clubs - and three in Scotland's top flight - have kits sponsored by betting companies.
Gambling on football was worth a record £1.4bn to bookmakers over a 12-month period, figures revealed in May."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41172425
Besides the financial side for Hibs Marathonbet have been great to the Hibs Supporters in so many ways. But I suppose that's part of their cunning plan.
On another note I think gambling and advertising laws are reserved to Westminster. If that's the case it's disappointing Labour have chosen to ignore anyone but England in its policy launch!
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06-09-2017 06:02 PM #1@hibs.net private member
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Labour: Scrap betting ads on football kits
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if it's anything to do with the labour party it should be on the cheese board, unless we start a comedy gold board
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If I was a footballer, I'd change my name by deed of poll to BetFred.
Think how many back-handers and opportunities you'd get if you got on zitelli.
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06-09-2017 06:43 PM #4Left by mutual consent!
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There must be William Hills out there, you could do it that way and not even a blink of an eye would be had.
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06-09-2017 06:44 PM #5Coaching Staff
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If you can't beat 'em, join 'em. Or something like that.
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06-09-2017 06:48 PM #6Left by mutual consent!
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There's no way it would come into place. They would have to ban advertising too and the money pumped in through adverts is too much. Having a gambling sponsor doesn't make me bet with marathon bet unless I'm in the ground. Familiarity all the way. I'm not leaving bet 355 regardless of how decent outside the box is.
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Originally Posted by Jack
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Ticking time-bomb that was set but Labour when they opened up to online gambling. Had one between being a nanny state and probably subjected to lobbying/legal action/EU competition rulings (I'm guessing) versus opening it up (which they did)."We know the people who have invested so far are simple fans." Vladimir Romanov - Scotsman 10th December 2012
"Romanov was like a breath of fresh air - laced with cyanide." Me.
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You cant bet online in several EU countries. I am all for the ban bookies are jusf ripping the piish out of skint vulnerable people as well as some very weak stupid people. Originally Posted by VivaPalmeiras
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06-09-2017 07:20 PM #9Coaching Staff
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Originally Posted by Sammy7nil
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Surely then it's the bookies that should be banned not football clubs making money off them.
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06-09-2017 07:27 PM #10Coaching Staff
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Yeah ban em all Originally Posted by ancient hibee
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06-09-2017 07:30 PM #11Professional thread starter
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About time too. Unregulated gambling advertising is rampant in this country. I'll put it this way - no one would be complaining about the loss of money if it was smoking adverts that were plastered everywhere. Gambling is just as addictive and has just of a catastrophic effect on the individual's life if they get addicted (if not more considering the sums of money involved) and the advertising preys on these kind of people.
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There's really no such thing as responsible smoking as any amount of it is harmful in some way. Gambling, while addictive in some cases, is totally harmless to the vast majority who enjoy it in moderation. Why should they suffer? Originally Posted by RagingReality
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I'm willing to bet that alcohol ruins more lives than gambling.
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Originally Posted by Pete
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Gambling is the silent addiction that costs people a lot more financially if not physically.
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I'll give you 20/1 on that ever happening😋
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Don't see the point in this. Post-Brexit, the country's going to be like Mad Max so adverts on fitba tops aren't going to catch much attention.
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There is only so much you can drink not making light of alcohol abuse but there was a story last week a guy lost over a million on 888 website he was stealing ended up in prison. People lose their house and families through gambling addiction. Originally Posted by Pete
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I'm aware of what happens and what can be lost when someone is addicted to gambling.
That's the extreme end though and we shouldn't ban it because it's addictive. There are surely other ways to prevent the tragic instances of people being allowed to blow such sums.
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Betfred cup, William hill Scottish cup, Ladbroke premiership...gambling agencies fund our game
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Has advertising on a football shirt ever driven anyone to drink or gamble?
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yes Originally Posted by scouse hibby
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Bonkers. Never gonna happen.
Alcohol/fast food chains/companies that use child/cheap labour - these will never get "banned"
Soccer Saturday are terrible for flaunting betting. More people probably watch that than attend matches up and down the country. Doubt that'll ever get stopped
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Bit dramatic there, who would "suffer" if the leagues and clubs were sponsored by entities other than gambling houses. Originally Posted by Pete
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06-09-2017 08:34 PM #23Coaching Staff
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I suppose "suffer" is the wrong term. I, along with many others, like gambling and the promotions the companies offer. I think people were talking about banning it altogether on here or at least disassociating it with sport (which seems bizarre). Originally Posted by AZhibee
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It's about time someone stood up to these business lobbies. Gambling addiction is a big and growing problem in this country and the group most hit is those already on low incomes. The number of betting commercials on all forms of media is almost overwhelming and pernicious and advertising it on sports kit that is coveted by kids is ridiculous.
The argument that sport needs the money is nonsense. Formula 1 went on and on for years about how banning tobacco advertising would kill their sport. I don't see any reduction in the riches generated by that. However, big business always predicts the end of the world if it's suggested that one of their cash-cows is at risk. Somehow it always seems to survive.
People can gamble if they want but, ultimately, the betting industry is one of the most effective methods known of transferring money directly from poorer and middle class people to the wealthy. It is entirely possible not to interfere with individuals' rights while at the same time stopping actively enabling industries such as gambling. Society should really take a moral position on the extent to which certain activities can be promoted - especially to an audience including a significant number of children.
We need to reverse a sporting industry trend and start putting principle before money. I'd like to see a ban on both gambling and alcohol advertising in all its forms in all sport and during all live sporting broadcasts.
Pleased to see some morality break out in politics
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How do you know? Originally Posted by Sammy7nil
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The whole point of advertising is to increase consumption of the product. Originally Posted by Scouse Hibby
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One might think Labour would have more to deal with than who sponsors football teams when they get into power. Marathon Bet have actually been good sponsors of Hibs with plenty interactive stuff and promotion of the club.
Who would Labour suggest as sponsors who would put as much into football and are ethical under whatever criteria they are using?"Washing one's hands of the conflict between the powerful and the powerless means to side with the powerful, not to be neutral.' - Paulo Freire
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It's simple really these organisations would not waste a penny on advertising if they did not get a return. Originally Posted by Scouse Hibby
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Can't stand Labour but this is good imo
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If there's no evidence of this then why do gambling companies spend so much money promoting their product on shirts? That'd be nuts wouldn't it? Originally Posted by Scouse Hibby
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