Stokes responds to KT's critisism

[1van Sprou7e]

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.co...cism-1-4554071

[Firestarter]

Good response from Stokesy.

[patlowe]

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http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.co...cism-1-4554071

I can understand why he's not happy with individual criticism. He doesn't actually deny the fact he's an awful trainer but makes the point that it's what happens on the pitch that matters. I can agree to a point but I think the question is whether Stokes could achieve a hell of a lot more if he was a good trainer. On the flipside, he wouldn't be at Hibs!

[confused]

Simple answer ,, Just pit the baw in the back oh the net , and that answers every ?..? Ever asked . K.T. Is scraping a living writing anything to get a few bob .

[Jamesie]

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Simple answer ,, Just pit the baw in the back oh the net , and that answers every ?..? Ever asked . K.T. Is scraping a living writing anything to get a few bob .

Interesting that Thomson decides to come out with this stuff shortly before this: http://twitter.com/kthomsonacademy/s...28271460499457

[truehibernian]

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Simple answer ,, Just pit the baw in the back oh the net , and that answers every ?..? Ever asked . K.T. Is scraping a living writing anything to get a few bob .

He's not scraping a living though, far from it.

He was merely pointing out that AS has the ability to play at the highest level if he really applied himself - a point many would agree with.

To turn it into a positive, and it's exactly what AS has now come out and said, goals will silence critics including KT - here's hoping he bangs them in, starting tomorrow

[Not In The Know]

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Interesting that Thomson decides to come out with this stuff shortly before this: http://twitter.com/kthomsonacademy/s...28271460499457

the KT article was published weeks ago.

[Hibbyradge]

Stokes isn't saying that what KT said was wrong. He'd just rather Kevin hadn't said it.

Presumably the manager thinks that Stokes does enough so here's hoping he proves it by putting St. Johnstone to the sword tomorrow.

[CallumLaidlaw]

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He's not scraping a living though, far from it.

He was merely pointing out that AS has the ability to play at the highest level if he really applied himself - a point many would agree with.

To turn it into a positive, and it's exactly what AS has now come out and said, goals will silence critics including KT - here's hoping he bangs them in, starting tomorrow

Funny you should say that, as I was listening to a podcast this morning talking about the fact the likes of Kris Commons are in danger of over saturation by doing BT, sportsound, a column in the paper etc, but says you need to do all these things to try and make up one decent salary.

[KWJ]

I've little problem with what KT said and same with AS's response (although he's gotta stop telling everyone to listen before he opens his gob! ) .

He hardly put him in his place and reading between the lines Stokes has no real desire to be the best in training through the week - he wants to score the goals on the Saturday. It's easy to say that he'd be better at doing this if he put the effort in during training but some players and people are just not built that way and don't want to change. As someone else pointed out - if Stokes had the mentality of a C Ronaldo then he wouldn't be at Hibs and neither would the likes of Latapy, Best or Riordan/GOC 2nd time round.

It'd be dull if everyone played to 100% every week.

[Hibbyradge]

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It'd be dull if everyone played to 100% every week.

I wouldn't mind a wee shot of that, to be honest.

[where'stheslope]

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I've little problem with what KT said and same with AS's response (although he's gotta stop telling everyone to listen before he opens his gob! ) .

He hardly put him in his place and reading between the lines Stokes has no real desire to be the best in training through the week - he wants to score the goals on the Saturday. It's easy to say that he'd be better at doing this if he put the effort in during training but some players and people are just not built that way and don't want to change. As someone else pointed out - if Stokes had the mentality of a C Ronaldo then he wouldn't be at Hibs and neither would the likes of Latapy, Best or Riordan/GOC 2nd time round.

It'd be dull if everyone played to 100% every week.

Is that not how you win trophies?????

Just ask Celtic!

[HoboHarry]

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I've little problem with what KT said and same with AS's response (although he's gotta stop telling everyone to listen before he opens his gob! ) .

He hardly put him in his place and reading between the lines Stokes has no real desire to be the best in training through the week - he wants to score the goals on the Saturday. It's easy to say that he'd be better at doing this if he put the effort in during training but some players and people are just not built that way and don't want to change. As someone else pointed out - if Stokes had the mentality of a C Ronaldo then he wouldn't be at Hibs and neither would the likes of Latapy, Best or Riordan/GOC 2nd time round.

It'd be dull if everyone played to 100% every week.

Errrrrr naw - it really wouldn't be dull at all......

[Mcpakeisgod]

At the end of the day, the guy is human. Also achieved more in his career than KT imo.

[beensaidbefore]

Hopefully gives AS a subconscious desire to train a bit harder. It's not gonna make him any worse surely!

[Ozyhibby]

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Hopefully gives AS a subconscious desire to train a bit harder. It's not gonna make him any worse surely!

I'm happy for him to carry on as before and totally ignore Kevin Thomson.


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[BullsCloseHibs]

Sorry KT, but Stokes is a Hibs legend.

You aren't and never have been.

Think you should just leave it there.

[patlowe]

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Sorry KT, but Stokes is a Hibs legend.

You aren't and never have been.

Think you should just leave it there.

Harsh, KT played a significant role in the 2016 derby comeback and replay, even if ignoring any other contribution.

[neil7908]

Good response by Stokes.

[Mikey09]

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I've little problem with what KT said and same with AS's response (although he's gotta stop telling everyone to listen before he opens his gob! ) .

He hardly put him in his place and reading between the lines Stokes has no real desire to be the best in training through the week - he wants to score the goals on the Saturday. It's easy to say that he'd be better at doing this if he put the effort in during training but some players and people are just not built that way and don't want to change. As someone else pointed out - if Stokes had the mentality of a C Ronaldo then he wouldn't be at Hibs and neither would the likes of Latapy, Best or Riordan/GOC 2nd time round.

It'd be dull if everyone played to 100% every week.

Listen...

Ive known so many lads who were the worst trainers in the world but were the first name on the team sheet. I hated training! It bored the ****** life out me! All I wanted to do was play competitive games and score goals. Some guys love training and fair do's. Some hate it but are just as important, if not more, come match day.

[Thecat23]

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Sorry KT, but Stokes is a Hibs legend.

You aren't and never have been.

Think you should just leave it there.

Stokes wouldn't be a Hibs legend if KT didn't clear a last min shot off the line in the 2-2 game. Everyone who played in the cup games are legends including KT.

[Mikey09]

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Stokes wouldn't be a Hibs legend if KT didn't clear a last min shot off the line in the 2-2 game. Everyone who played in the cup games are legends including KT.

Absolutely correct.

[Brightside]

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Sorry KT, but Stokes is a Hibs legend.

You aren't and never have been.

Think you should just leave it there.

bollix. simple fact is we wouldn't have the ground and training centre we have without players like KT. He's also now a ST holder. You think Stokes will be at Hibs games when his career is over.

KT has pointed out a simple fact. Just imagine how good Stokes good be if he had the right attitude in training. Its the same for many players...fantastic raw talent. But hard work will always beat talent if talent doesnt work hard.

[SRHibs]

Can you all honestly say you put in 100% effort at work at all times? The whole thing is a pointless non-story.

[Just Jimmy]

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Can you all honestly say you put in 100% effort at work? The whole thing is a pointless non-story.

I can. I respect myself, even on days that I don't enjoy my job.

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[SRHibs]

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I can. I respect myself, even on days that I don't enjoy my job.

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You're a better man than me then. Not that I don't work hard, but it's hard to keep the motivation to be firing on all cylinders at all times. Wouldn't say it amounts to a lack of respect for one's self.

[truehibernian]

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Can you all honestly say you put in 100% effort at work at all times? The whole thing is a pointless non-story.

I think Kevin's point is AS could have been (easily) an EPL player of some standing if he had worked harder in his career. That's not to understate his Celtic achievements but he could have been so much better than that.

KT is carving out a new career in youth coaching and combining media with that - have to say, having spoken to him last season his love for Hibs is strong - he is a supporter like the rest of us and he has opinions. Should have heard Eddie Turnbull talk about Deek (sorry SH.........he loved him.......played out of position though ).

[lyonhibs]

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Stokes wouldn't be a Hibs legend if KT didn't clear a last min shot off the line in the 2-2 game. Everyone who played in the cup games are legends including KT.

This

As for training, I mean honestly who gives the same in training as they do on matchday? I'm not a John Terry knobhead type so am I likely to go barrelling into challenges with my own team-mates with as much commitment as when it's the opponent? Or run quite as fast, jump quite as high etc?

That's not to say you don't need to put in a decent amount of effort during training and I've no idea what shade of grey on the "bad trainer" spectrum we're talking about with Stokes' here.

Does he sit on the sidelines with a fag and a can or are there just some days when he can't be arsed with fitness drills or whatever.

[hibsbollah]

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I think Kevin's point is AS could have been (easily) an EPL player of some standing if he had worked harder in his career. That's not to understate his Celtic achievements but he could have been so much better than that.

KT is carving out a new career in youth coaching and combining media with that - have to say, having spoken to him last season his love for Hibs is strong - he is a supporter like the rest of us and he has opinions. Should have heard Eddie Turnbull talk about Deek (sorry SH.........he loved him.......played out of position though ).

Stokes could have rightly pointed out that KT could have achieved more with his OWN career if he hadn't dived in that old firm game, in a blatant attempt to cheat that resulted in KT suffering his own nasty leg injury. Now that's irresponsible

[CorrieHibs]

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Stokes wouldn't be a Hibs legend if KT didn't clear a last min shot off the line in the 2-2 game. Everyone who played in the cup games are legends including KT.

Well said