I'm not saying that the problem is not complex and embedded and many others will have a better idea than I do about where to start. However, we have to start somewhere.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I said in an earlier post that I would like to see all promotion of gambling and alcohol banned from all sport. I also suggested a ban during live broadcasts of sporting events (on channels showing those events).
If we do have to start at one particular point though would we not start with sports where there is the greatest involvement of children and young people?
Results 121 to 150 of 161
-
07-09-2017 11:38 AM #121
-
07-09-2017 11:42 AM #122This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
-
07-09-2017 11:43 AM #123
Classic right v left argument here. The freedom to choose and live by your actions or have a society that offers help and support and limits choices.for some the first argument is what's wanted for others the second is what's required.
-
07-09-2017 11:54 AM #124This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
The Labour proposal is stupid though.
Under their proposal In Scotland, Celtic, The Rangers, and Hibs would not be able to have Dafa Bet, 32 Red and Marathon Bet ( 3 relative minnows in the UK gambling industry) on their shirts.
The Betfred and William Hill cups and the Ladbrokes SPFL would be fine though ( all major players in the UK Gambling sector).
-
07-09-2017 12:11 PM #125This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
-
07-09-2017 12:38 PM #126
- Join Date
- Aug 2010
- Location
- kirkcaldy
- Posts
- 11,538
Piece of nonsense.
-
-
07-09-2017 02:14 PM #128This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
-
07-09-2017 02:25 PM #129This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
-
07-09-2017 02:31 PM #130
- Join Date
- Apr 2002
- Location
- Edinburgh
- Age
- 42
- Posts
- 4,120
This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I doubt any gambling addicts are prompted to donit by advertising - if as many gamblers claim, it is an illness, advertising should make no difference other than differentiating between their bookie of choice.
People need to take some responsibility for themselves, and stop rushing to ban things they dont like or cant handle.
For most people, going to the fitba is inextricably linked with having a drink and putting on a coupon - its natural that they would heavily invest in sponsoring football.Last edited by SouthsideHarp_Bhoy; 07-09-2017 at 02:34 PM.
-
07-09-2017 02:41 PM #131
Banning advertising is pointless when the bookies can be seen in every high street across the UK.
I think the main point to be addressed is the FOBTs (fixed odds betting terminals) in bookies shops across the country.
IIRC each shop was limited to 3, down from 4 terminals a few years ago? Not sure on that, but the limit on these machines has never been decreased. You can do £200-£300 a minute on them.
They are the reason we've seen the rise in bookies' shops in high streets across the country, in places where there are already shops owned by the same firm a couple of hundred yards away.
Limiting the stakes or banning them outright would see hundreds of shops close but I would think go quite a bit to addressing problem gambling.
This is worth a read if you've got 20 minutes:
https://www.theguardian.com/business...-betting-shops
-
07-09-2017 02:41 PM #132This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteHIBERNIAN FC - ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY SINCE 1875
-
07-09-2017 03:00 PM #133This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Have you not seen the adverts? It matters more when there's money on it .
United we stand here....
-
07-09-2017 03:53 PM #134This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteThis quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
-
07-09-2017 03:55 PM #135
The government should be looking to pass a law making the bookies take a decent bet at available odds from every punter before they ban anything to do with ads.
-
07-09-2017 04:00 PM #136This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
-
07-09-2017 04:01 PM #137
I do have a wee punt via the betting facilities that are available at ER on matchday, I wonder if I'm in need of professional counselling to help me get over this terrible sin?
It's an awfy worry.
-
07-09-2017 04:08 PM #138This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
-
07-09-2017 04:48 PM #139This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I tend to actually go towards your side of the fence here. I don't think naked promotion of gambling, and especially these FO terminals should be unrestricted in sport.
But just because a few studies happen to support that view with, presumably, some fairly extreme "worst case scenario" examples, it doesn't make contrary opinions "irrelevant"
Sheesh
-
07-09-2017 05:01 PM #140
Kinda forgot there was a Labour Party in Scotland. Guess this got them in the news for a day.
-
07-09-2017 05:07 PM #141
- Join Date
- Jul 2007
- Posts
- 1,117
This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Bookmakers do not like winners as much as they'd like everyone to believe that.
-
07-09-2017 05:13 PM #142This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
-
07-09-2017 05:18 PM #143This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
-
07-09-2017 05:28 PM #144This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
-
07-09-2017 05:37 PM #145
- Join Date
- Mar 2016
- Posts
- 2,175
Not sure how anybody can say that advertisements don't make a difference. You think they just spend all that money on advertisements for no reason? Really?
-
07-09-2017 07:51 PM #146This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
-
07-09-2017 10:10 PM #147
I support this totally. Of course it will impact on football but we don't have pitch side or programme ads now telling us that "Fit Fans Smoke Rocky Mounts" etc. as we did once upon a time. I have various old Hibs tops I wear with pride but don't and wouldn't wear one that promotes a bookie. It's maybe a bit less of a shocker than defacing the green with something like Wonga but it's madness to deny the horrific consequences that gambling has for some folk. I've got no problem with folk having the odd bet - good fun so long as you're fully in control of it but the sums that online bookies spend on football advertising are the self-evident proof that they consider it worthwhile in attracting customers. We could probably find some ethical gripe with most commercial sponsors if we dug deep enough but the ones that are directly responsible for helping some into untold misery are surely an exception. The gambling industry is a major part of that problem. I think the fact that such advertising on kids' shirts is already banned underlines the truth of the situation.
-
07-09-2017 10:25 PM #148
Banning sponsorship on a football shirt or even of football competitions won't make any difference. There will still be plenty of adverts on the TV, social media promotions, internet websites and of course the bookmaker shops.
Any serious attempt to deal with the gambling problem requires the gambling industry to be more tightly regulated but I'm not sure how practical that would be given that an addict could still use an online site based outwith the UK.Mature, sensible signature required for responsible position. Good prospects for the right candidate. Apply within.
-
08-09-2017 01:14 PM #149
- Join Date
- Apr 2002
- Age
- 49
- Posts
- 27,490
This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
-
08-09-2017 03:31 PM #150This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Where there is a will, there's a way.
Personally I'd ban booze adverts before gambling. Many more lives ruined by alcohol both in long term and in the short term.
That said, I do like a good swally.
J
Log in to remove the advert |
Bookmarks