Labour: Scrap betting ads on football kits

[Sammy7nil]

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One might think Labour would have more to deal with than who sponsors football teams when they get into power. Marathon Bet have actually been good sponsors of Hibs with plenty interactive stuff and promotion of the club.

Who would Labour suggest as sponsors who would put as much into football and are ethical under whatever criteria they are using?

How many Hibs fans had placed a bet with Marathon prior to them sponsoring Hibs? How many have an account with Marathon now?

[jacomo]

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You cant bet online in several EU countries. I am all for the ban bookies are jusf ripping the piish out of skint vulnerable people as well as some very weak stupid people.

[Scouse Hibee]

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The whole point of advertising is to increase consumption of the product.

Still doesn't prove that anyone has ever been driven by a name on a football shirt. Keeps the name out there but introduced people to their product I very much doubt it.

I never bought one single tin of crown paint!

[Pete]

Gambling and alcohol companies mainly spend money to make people choose their product over others, not entice people into the world of gambling or drinking.
Even if there is an argument that it normalises certain activities, where is the outcry and call for morality regarding alcohol advertising? Why is one different?

Is one quantifiably worse than the other?

[Scouse Hibee]

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If there's no evidence of this then why do gambling companies spend so much money promoting their product on shirts? That'd be nuts wouldn't it?

Keeps the name out there. Choose their product over others not always introducing them to gambling.

[GreenOnions]

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Still doesn't prove that anyone has ever been driven by a name on a football shirt. Keeps the name out there but introduced people to their product I very much doubt it.

This is the same argument that the tobacco industry always used in defence of its advertising. They always claimed that their ads were only to encourage those who already smoked to switch brands - and not to encourage new smokers.

[Sammy7nil]

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Still doesn't prove that anyone has ever been driven by a name on a football shirt. Keeps the name out there but introduced people to their product I very much doubt it.

I never bought one single tin of crown paint!

There will be plenty Hibs fans with a Marathon betting account now that had never heard of Marathon until they sponored Hibs

[Scouse Hibee]

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This is the same argument that the tobacco industry always used in defence of its advertising. They always claimed that their ads were only to encourage those who already smoked to switch brands - and not to encourage new smokers.

I agree with them.

[Scouse Hibee]

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There will be plenty Hibs fans with a Marathon betting account now that had never heard of Marathon until they sponored Hibs

Yes but they already gambled with other companies I'll bet.

[Mick O'Rourke]

I blame Hibernian FC for all this.

Shirt sponsor pioneers with Bukta!

Or was it Bookieta

I like the style of this years strip.
However, i wish i could buy one though without the main sponsors name blazoned on the front.

[Sammy7nil]

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Gambling and alcohol companies mainly spend money to make people choose their product over others, not entice people into the world of gambling or drinking.
Even if there is an argument that it normalises certain activities, where is the outcry and call for morality regarding alcohol advertising? Why is one different?

Is one quantifiably worse than the other?

Have you not noticed that major alcohol companies no longer sponsor football?

[Scouse Hibee]

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Have you not noticed that major alcohol companies no longer sponsor football?

Has the drinking stopped as a result of that?

[Scouse Hibee]

Accessibility to gambling is the real problem.

[Roxyhibee]

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Still doesn't prove that anyone has ever been driven by a name on a football shirt. Keeps the name out there but introduced people to their product I very much doubt it.

I never bought one single tin of crown paint!

You appear carelessly naive on a very serious subject.

[lord bunberry]

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Accessibility to gambling is the real problem.

True, I sometimes struggle late at night to get a decent bet on.

[Pete]

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Have you not noticed that major alcohol companies no longer sponsor football?

Why's that?

[Scouse Hibee]

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You appear carelessly naive on a very serious subject.

Different opinion on the effects of advertising is not being naive.

[Firestarter]

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Why's that?

Gambling companies offer more money.

[Scouse Hibee]

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True, I sometimes struggle late at night to get a decent bet on.

Do you give up and drink instead?

[Sammy7nil]

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Accessibility to gambling is the real problem.

Totally agree you can now bet 24/7 in the comfort of your home with no limits. This rise in betting will eventually ruin more lives than alcohol.

[Roxyhibee]

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Different opinion on the effects of advertising is not being naive.

Go and read studies on the impact of gambling advertising on adolescents in particular and its effects in them and tell me if you think someone can have an opinion on a subject like that.

In fact, maybe first - go and read when it's relevant to have an opinion on a subject.

[Sammy7nil]

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Why's that?

I think it is because it has been proven it causes health problems and sport in general has moved away from it because of the negative research studies

[Pete]

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Gambling companies offer more money.

That's what I initially thought was the only reason but apparently there's a code of conduct that prohibits alcohol to be used as a main shirt sponsor.
Globalisation of the game and the cash it brings means gambling firms have filled the void.

It still doesn't stop the top teams in the world having lucrative deals with alcohol "partners" though.

[Pete]

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Totally agree you can now bet 24/7 in the comfort of your home with no limits. This rise in betting will eventually ruin more lives than alcohol.

To be honest, when you consider the materialistic society we live in you can understand people's desperation and temptation.

While I don't agree with a major clamp down on advertising, there has to be tough regulation and mechanisms that limit people spending too much.

[Scouse Hibee]

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Go and read studies on the impact of gambling advertising on adolescents in particular and its effects in them and tell me if you think someone can have an opinion on a subject like that.

In fact, maybe first - go and read when it's relevant to have an opinion on a subject.

Hark at you Mr self righteous! Go and read a book if you don't like differing opinions on an internet forum. I prefer real life studies and personal experience, I also respect not everyone will agree.

[Pretty Boy]

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Bit dramatic there, who would "suffer" if the leagues and clubs were sponsored by entities other than gambling houses.

There's not exactly been a queue of other companies looking to throw comparitive money at Scottish football in recent years.

Fwiw I don't think we can simply ban or try to hide everything that has a potentially negative impact on individuals. People get addicted to junk food, OTC medicines, pornography and countless other things. Gambling is a regulated industry and the vast majority of consumers enjoy it with minimal adverse effects.

[Sammy7nil]

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There's not exactly been a queue of other companies looking to throw comparitive money at Scottish football in recent years.

Fwiw I don't think we can simply ban or try to hide everything that has a potentially negative impact on individuals. People get addicted to junk food, OTC medicines, pornography and countless other things. Gambling is a regulated industry and the vast majority of consumers enjoy it with minimal adverse effects.

I agree Playboy should sponsor Hibs

[Scouse Hibee]

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I agree Playboy should sponsor Hibs

Would we have a Bunny Mascot?

[Roxyhibee]

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Hark at you Mr self righteous! Go and read a book if you don't like differing opinions on an internet forum. I prefer real life studies and personal experience, I also respect not everyone will agree.

It's not a differing opinion, don't you get that.? You're utterly lost on this subject.

[Firestarter]

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That's what I initially thought was the only reason but apparently there's a code of conduct that prohibits alcohol to be used as a main shirt sponsor.
Globalisation of the game and the cash it brings means gambling firms have filled the void.

It still doesn't stop the top teams in the world having lucrative deals with alcohol "partners" though.

Yeah I'm perhaps being ignorant. Gambling companies taking over from cigarettes in snooker another example.

Probably not a football related thread mind. I know personally if there was no online gambling and just your bookies that closed at 7 and 5 on a Sunday I would have saved over thousands and I don't even like the roulette terminals that people seem to lose hundreds in the space of minutes. You might get gubbed smoking and drinking but at least there will be health warnings with that. Gambling you can keep to yourself and live off beans and toast. Thankfully I've a very young couple of children that are my priority ahead of anything and love for them sorted me out. Others I know just can't help blowing everything.