As far as I'm concerned the evidence of the fire is the certificate of HMFC being in Administration and a creditor list that dwarfed Rangers one and that's enough to find them guilty.So no, I won't forget.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
But I have no faith in the Scottish football authorities to successfully order a pizza never mind sort the game out. Nothing will happen with Rangers and there will be no deep look into the game to keep restraints on idiots running Hearts or Dundee into the wall and allowing a pantomime like Gretna happening again. It'll be as shambolic and favouring of the old firm (whatever that is these days) as it's always been.
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05-09-2017 03:58 PM #61
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05-09-2017 05:13 PM #63This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
In reality, over a sustained period of time they did indeed overspend. They also indulged in a tax evasion scheme, which in order to hide from the authorities they improperly registered players and officials in their employ. These actions gave them an unfair sporting advantage, brought the game into disrepute and led to a crisis in Scottish football. All of this has been proved in various court proceedings and investigations.
To make matters worse, far worse in my opinion, the SFA, the SPL, and now the SPFL, colluded with Rangers to ease their landing and ensure their continued existence in Scottish football. The consequence is a game whose bodies charged with its governance are held in contempt, lack integrity, transparency and trust and whose names are by-words for corruption and arrogance.
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05-09-2017 06:11 PM #64
With about 85% of Hibs fans in favour of a full investigation, it's disappointing that the club continue to ignore the supporters on this issue. It's even more disappointing that the fans reps are now doing the exact same.
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05-09-2017 09:01 PM #66This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Im not disputing anything you say here but it's been practically the same chat for the last 5 years.
Some of us just don't care as much as others.
Apparently that makes us part of the problem. Same as if we enjoy sky sports and don't kick up a fuss about player wages and transfer fees etc etc.
Well sod that. I enjoy the football and don't give a toss about stripping titles or all the legal stuff that surrounds the game. I also don't think the games corrupt at all. If that makes me part of the problem then so be it. I don't care!
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There's no doubt in my mind that the side letters are the big issue.The EBTs were all over various industries and were not tax evasion but companies taking a chance on tax law which had not been tested.I see Edinburgh Woollen Mill have just taken measures to unravel one.The fact that it took the Revenue to persevere through the appeals to get what I would consider to be Obviously the right result showed what a minefield tax law is.
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Their players were improperly registered, just as those from clubs like Spartans and others who have been thrown out of competitions or docked points.
They took the decision to hide those side letters, against the porn magnates advice.
Ask yourself why?
What they and everyone else concerned can't deny, is their players were not properly registered. The laws were there at the time and are still there to punish them.
To do nothing is a crime in itself, and will leave a stench no amount of air freshener will rid.
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It may or may not be representative of a true sample as statistics can be interpreted to suit any agenda, however every one wants the titles stripped and the reasons recorded. They fully understand what hiding the side letters meant and also the effect of playing with players you could not otherwise have afforded.
Don't really know anyone who is in the "move on" camp.
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The fact that those who are responsible for the stewardship of our club at the moment seem to wish to 'move on' (i.e. assist in the cover up of rule breaking on an scale never before seen in Scottish football) makes me very angry.
The rational reaction would be too say f*** you to the whole thing, you're not getting another penny of my hard earned money. In other spheres of life you would do just that.
But football and supporting Hibs isn't an area where reason plays much of a role. Which is what the SFA, SPFL, those running the clubs, are banking on.
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06-09-2017 11:04 AM #78
https://johnjamessite.com/
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Aren't folk allowed or have different opinions on this matter? Seems me that anyone that wants to just move on is wrong and you guys are right?
I keep reading on here about corruption. Just because you guys think the game is corrupt doesn't mean that it is.
I don't even know what you mean by one of the most corrupt sports in the world? In what way?
I don't however suggest that you live in a bubble. I just see it differently to you and don't feel the need for everyone to agree with me.
I still think this whole thing is simply down to people's hatred of Rangers.
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There's no doubt in my mind that the side letters are the big issue.The EBTs were all over various industries and were not tax evasion but companies taking a chance on tax law which had not been tested.I see Edinburgh Woollen Mill have just taken measures to unravel one.The fact that it took the Revenue to persevere through the appeals to get what I would consider to be Obviously the right result showed what a minefield tax law is.
The laws were in place then, and are in place now to punish the club like athletes or cyclist would be?
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These are facts not just made up by folk on here who have different opinions on the Rangers saga. That's fine you don't care about that not everyone will. But to be so naive to say you haven't seen or heard of any corruption is baffling.
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06-09-2017 04:06 PM #88
It always winds me up when you see tv footage of the teams waiting in the tunnel at ibrox and they have the wooden honours boards with all "their" previously won honours
For me, this is one of the reasons why this should be taken forward
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It has had absolutely zero impact on Hibs though and if another thread on here is to believed then nobody would actually care as they only care about Hibs games!
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What is this corruption that you all know about that I've missed??
I'm disagreeing because I don't believe in what you guys are saying. That's a perfectly logical stance to take.
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