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    Interesting and honest words from Neil Lennon

    Especially the bit about complacency among (some?) of the Hibs players. Link below.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40988712


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    The fact that he had a 'wee felling' something like that might happen, but still allowed it to happen, doesn't reflect particularly well IMO. I thought Lennon would rid us of that type of thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B.H.F.C View Post
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    The fact that he had a 'wee felling' something like that might happen, but still allowed it to happen, doesn't reflect particularly well IMO. I thought Lennon would rid us of that type of thing.
    It's a sign of a good manager that he is open and honest enough to say he'll learn from that.

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    Did Lennon miss any of the training when he was doing TV work during the week?

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    Is it possible some people's thoughts were still on Ibrox and not on the upcoming home game?

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    The main failures of this team last season was when they couldn't deal with the expectation of winning.Hopefully this will improve this season after displaying the same fault yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
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    Did Lennon miss any of the training when he was doing TV work during the week?
    I'm not sure what you are suggesting. Perhaps that the players weren't working hard in training the minute Lennon's back was turned? If so, that's ludicrous. Neil does have assistants.

    If I've misinterpreted your post, apologies in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
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    Did Lennon miss any of the training when he was doing TV work during the week?
    Yip jumpers for goal posts,Tam McCourt took the training.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emerald green View Post
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    I'm not sure what you are suggesting. Perhaps that the players weren't working hard in training the minute Lennon's back was turned? If so, that's ludicrous. Neil does have assistants.

    If I've misinterpreted your post, apologies in advance.
    I don't think that's is what he's suggesting. I think he's suggesting that maybe if Lennon had been here instead of being in Ireland there might have been more he could've done. I've no idea how true that is as I've no idea how long he was over in Ireland for.

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    If Lennon missed training due to being in Ireland for media work then leeann needs to have a word . His focus should be 100% hibs


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    Quote Originally Posted by lord bunberry View Post
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    I don't think that's is what he's suggesting. I think he's suggesting that maybe if Lennon had been here instead of being in Ireland there might have been more he could've done. I've no idea how true that is as I've no idea how long he was over in Ireland for.
    You might be right. Heisenberg will maybe come back on and clear things up?

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    The fact that he had a 'wee felling' something like that might happen, but still allowed it to happen, doesn't reflect particularly well IMO. I thought Lennon would rid us of that type of thing.
    Easy to talk about it. Sorting it would be the sign of a good manager though. It's not as if it's something new, he spoke about this type of thing last year as well.

    I'm a fan of Lennon and thought, with the additions he's made, he'd have got rid of that type of performance. We won't always play well, I get that. But the attitude and application yesterday was a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dp00 View Post
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    If Lennon missed training due to being in Ireland for media work then leeann needs to have a word . His focus should be 100% hibs


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    managers miss training aw the time mate they aren't there 5 days a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lord bunberry View Post
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    I don't think that's is what he's suggesting. I think he's suggesting that maybe if Lennon had been here instead of being in Ireland there might have been more he could've done. I've no idea how true that is as I've no idea how long he was over in Ireland for.
    Yes that's what I was aiming at. As you say though, no idea how long he was there for. He himself did say he wasn't his usual self with the players and wasn't "on" them as much as he usually is during the week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dp00 View Post
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    If Lennon missed training due to being in Ireland for media work then leeann needs to have a word . His focus should be 100% hibs


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    He could easily have been in Ireland after training and back for training the next day. Not sure if that's the case but it's possible to do both.
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    I heard another interview where he say he "hasn't been himself"...and he isn't as angry as I'd expect him to be.

    A bout of depression perhaps?

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    He was Salmond's mystery guest today at the Fringe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
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    Yes that's what I was aiming at. As you say though, no idea how long he was there for. He himself did say he wasn't his usual self with the players and wasn't "on" them as much as he usually is during the week.
    OK thanks for your clarification.

    I maintain though that even if NL did miss some training, that in itself should never result in an overall team performance like yesterday surely?

    As another poster has pointed out, it's not entirely unusual for head coaches to miss some training sessions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
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    I heard another interview where he say he "hasn't been himself"...and he isn't as angry as I'd expect him to be.

    A bout of depression perhaps?
    Having wallopers threaten your life must be pretty hard to deal with. Puts a strain on family stuff too. I'm sure the support he gets allows Lenny to deal with issues better however he showed plenty of passion during the game - at one stage throwing his water bottle down in frustration. Having said that he also had the maturity to congratulate Hamilton on the way they executed their third goal. Martin Canning's team did very well and they'll take points off a few other teams before the season is out.

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    Thought his post-match interview was pretty fair. Made no excuses, rightly acknowledged we were well below par and gave Hamilton their due credit. I like how he doesn't sugarcoat things and make excuses, doing that does nobody any favours and it ends up becoming cringeworthy. The likes of Houston have become notorious and become figures of ridicule with there post-defeat interviews never crediting the opposition and constantly coming out with excuses and someone else to blame. We laugh at it but if I was a Falkirk fan I would be cringing at having to listen to that all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
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    I heard another interview where he say he "hasn't been himself"...and he isn't as angry as I'd expect him to be.

    A bout of depression perhaps?
    Was thinking the same actually. Hopefully not but if thats the case then i'm sure the club will offer him any support he needs.

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    I heard another interview where he say he "hasn't been himself"...and he isn't as angry as I'd expect him to be.

    A bout of depression perhaps?
    Possibly. I'd imagine the build up, the game itself and all of what happened post game last week would wilt even the mentally strongest of people.

    As has been said I'm sure the club are offering the best of care, IF anything has flared

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    I love Neil Lennon's honesty and telling it how it is. This man is a born winner and he will have us fighting for 2nd spot as the season progresses.
    We have a superb squad, possibly the strongest since The Tornadoes.
    I do recall The Tornadoes having their off days too, not often, but enough to inform me that no matter how good your team is on paper, getting the basics right such as winning individual battles is crucial.
    Hamilton won practically every individual battle in that 2nd half and this will not happen too often this season.
    A harsh lesson and a good one to boot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lennon's Lip View Post
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    I love Neil Lennon's honesty and telling it how it is. This man is a born winner and he will have us fighting for 2nd spot as the season progresses.
    We have a superb squad, possibly the strongest since The Tornadoes.
    I do recall The Tornadoes having their off days too, not often, but enough to inform me that no matter how good your team is on paper, getting the basics right such as winning individual battles is crucial.
    Hamilton won practically every individual battle in that 2nd half and this will not happen too often this season.
    A harsh lesson and a good one to boot.
    I wish I had a pound for every time I've seen the Lennon is a winner hype.

    He got the team selection badly wrong on Saturday and should have come out and said so.

    He rightly got the plaudits for the win at Ibrox he should take the flak for that shambles on Saturday.

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    He could have least said that " we were great in training " or maybe that will be this week ....

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    I wish I had a pound for every time I've seen the Lennon is a winner hype.

    He got the team selection badly wrong on Saturday and should have come out and said so.

    He rightly got the plaudits for the win at Ibrox he should take the flak for that shambles on Saturday.
    What should have been the team then?

    Isnt it easy to be wise after the event?

    I thought it looked fine on paper.
    They just didn't perform.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hughio View Post
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    What should have been the team then?

    Isnt it easy to be wise after the event?

    I thought it looked fine on paper.
    They just didn't perform.
    Slivka should have started.

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    Slivka should have started.
    Agreed but dropping one player doesn't make the team selection appear badly wrong.

    The players weren't interested, looks like they let the hype get to their head and thought that all they had to do was show up and collect the 3 points. I've seen us play bad and lose but that was the least effort I've seen out of a Hibs team since we got relegated.

    It should be Lennons job to keep the players grounded and him being sucked in by the media and talking about Rangers all week even up to the Friday before the game instead of showing Hamilton respect and talking about them certainly wouldn't have helped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lennon's Lip View Post
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    I love Neil Lennon's honesty and telling it how it is. This man is a born winner and he will have us fighting for 2nd spot as the season progresses.
    We have a superb squad, possibly the strongest since The Tornadoes.
    I do recall The Tornadoes having their off days too, not often, but enough to inform me that no matter how good your team is on paper, getting the basics right such as winning individual battles is crucial.
    Hamilton won practically every individual battle in that 2nd half and this will not happen too often this season.
    A harsh lesson and a good one to boot.
    Whilst not excusing the performance on Sat...it was woeful, we as fans also.need to educate ourselves and realise after 3 years in the Championship that results like Sat will happen from time to time in this league (hopefully not frequent). We've been used to winning most weeks for 3 years now but need to realise yes the squad is strong but we aren't Celtic and we won't go the season unbeaten. I find the over reaction on here from some to sat as way OTT and we need to deal with defeats and put them in perspective. A top 4 finish would be a tremendous achievement after 3 years downstairs...im sure we will fight for that too but there will be bumps in the road along the way...as a fan base we need to deal with that as well as the squad and the manager

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    Whilst not excusing the performance on Sat...it was woeful, we as fans also.need to educate ourselves and realise after 3 years in the Championship that results like Sat will happen from time to time in this league (hopefully not frequent). We've been used to winning most weeks for 3 years now but need to realise yes the squad is strong but we aren't Celtic and we won't go the season unbeaten. I find the over reaction on here from some to sat as way OTT and we need to deal with defeats and put them in perspective. A top 4 finish would be a tremendous achievement after 3 years downstairs...im sure we will fight for that too but there will be bumps in the road along the way...as a fan base we need to deal with that as well as the squad and the manager

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    Like I said above, I can deal with defeats. I can't deal with bending over and letting ****ing Hamilton with their 200 fans away support play us off the park at our own stadium.

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