Whittaker

[DavidDavidGray]

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How I see it and I might get shot down...but we've stepped up to a league where team aren't sitting back and our defence are actually getting tested, hence losing 6 goals in 3 games.

I think Whittaker and Ambrose are a step up on what we had last year but it's easy for people to look at it negatively given we had little defending to do in the Championship.

I do however think we should have went with 4 at the back and had Slivka in midfield


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don't think Ambrose is better than either McGregor or Hanlon and don't think there's much in it between Whittaker or Gray, but I agree that the defence is being tested more and isn't coping well, for whatever reason

[Danderhall Hibs]

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Why then did he drop Slivka after his performance last week? did Swanson deserve to come back into the team?

He said why in his hibs tv interview with pc stamp.

He thought we'd have more of the ball this week and could use his creativity.

[stoneyburn hibs]

Swanson wasn't fit today, blowing oot his erchie after 30 minutes and I expected him to be replaced at half-time with Slivka.

[LaMotta]

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2 away at St Mirren, he was utterly hopeless that night
1 at home to Dunfermline (missed his kick). 2nd one in this game was a cross from his side.
1 at home to Dumbarton, sleeping after we equalised.

I've no idea why people get so offended at me criticising Gray. He is a legend but he had a pish poor run of form when we needed him most and we've gone and signed another right back for a reason. I'd bring him back in now as well, to shake things up and get people fired up but he isn't the Cafu/Maldini mashup people are making out.

So not six then.

[heretoday]

We basically didn't have a right back today.

[blackpoolhibs]

Whittaker and Stokes getting the treatment today after our first defeat of the season, and when you think about it, both players are the players who will be behind the rest in fitness and match fitness since signing.

I will give them a bit longer before hanging them out to dry.

[matty_f]

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Whittaker and Stokes getting the treatment today after our first defeat of the season, and when you think about it, both players are the players who will be behind the rest in fitness and match fitness since signing.

I will give them a bit longer before hanging them out to dry.

[MWHIBBIES]

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So not six then.

No, just 5. If only I had said 5/6...

Great debate pal

[LaMotta]

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No, just 5. If only I had said 5/6...

Great debate pal

A cross came in from his side and it was his fault?
You are talking absolute nonsense and not for the first time. Bizaare dislike of David Gray.

[MWHIBBIES]

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A cross came in from his side and it was his fault?
You are talking absolute nonsense and not for the first time. Bizaare dislike of David Gray.

It is strange that I've clearly said, on multiple occasions, that I have no dislike of Gray yet you still tell me I do.

Do I think Gray is overrated on here? Yes
Do I go against the ''David Gray is god'' theme? Yes
Do I dislike him as a player or person? No

I'll show you a photo I got taken with him if you don't believe me. I thanked him and everything, heartwarming moment.

If Gray was brilliant all last season and didn't cost us any goals then why isn't he in the team right now?

[Mibbes Aye]

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It is strange that I've clearly said, on multiple occasions, that I have no dislike of Gray yet you still tell me I do.

Do I think Gray is overrated on here? Yes
Do I go against the ''David Gray is god'' theme? Yes
Do I dislike him as a player or person? No

I'll show you a photo I got taken with him if you don't believe me. I thanked him and everything, heartwarming moment.

If Gray was brilliant all last season and didn't cost us any goals then why isn't he in the team right now?

Yeah,get all that, but what's your opinion on David Gray?

[KingFranck]

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Whittaker had a good first half, but was anonymous second half.

Could pretty much say that about the whole team though.
How we can single out one player in that shambles of a performance is beyond me.
They have to admit they all had a bad day at the office and move on.

[J-C]

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He said why in his hibs tv interview with pc stamp.

He thought we'd have more of the ball this week and could use his creativity.

I also posted this before his Hibs TV interview but still a bizarre omission and team set up at home. Didn't need 3 at the back and Slivka earned his right to start.

[Libby Hibby]

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We basically didn't have a right back today.

That's true as we played 3 at the back with wing backs.

[Ozyhibby]

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Could pretty much say that about the whole team though.
How we can single out one player in that shambles of a performance is beyond me.
They have to admit they all had a bad day at the office and move on.

I don't single him out for yesterday. The op makes it clear they were all terrible. My problem is he is letting crosses come in from his side totally unchallenged in a way that Gray never would.



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[whiskas]

I thought he was one of our best players, esp first half. I do think we were left exposed on that side though , partly because other players weren't covering the space behind him when he pushed forward, and partly because I don't think he has the pace/stamina to play the wing back role any more.

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[erin go bragh]

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You'd have to ask lennon the answer to that cause I'm as baffled at that one as you are

Lennon said he brought in Swanson as we would have much more of the ball than we had at Greyskull.
First half I thought SW was our best player . Second half I'd say all outfield players were poor but Barkley had a couple of encouraging runs .
Bad day at the office . We move on to next week .

[emerald green]

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How I see it and I might get shot down...but we've stepped up to a league where team aren't sitting back and our defence are actually getting tested, hence losing 6 goals in 3 games.

You might be right in what you say.

It's difficult to understand what was an all round shambolic team performance yesterday, particularly defensively.

Defend (and play) like that against Celtic in particular and we can expect a right hammering.

[snooky]

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We basically didn't have a right back today.

Apart from SDG, this has been an ongoing problem since the days of Willie Miller.

[Stuart93]

Opinions eh...Whittaker called up to the national squad yet people shouting for him to be dropped

[Ozyhibby]

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Opinions eh...Whittaker called up to the national squad yet people shouting for him to be dropped

SFA are not exactly good at running the national team though to be fair. I think it's fair to question them.


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[Stuart93]

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SFA are not exactly good at running the national team though to be fair. I think it's fair to question them.


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True however we all know the abilities there, the guys not even 100% fit yet and there's calls to drop him. Seems harsh so me

[Ozyhibby]

How long until Lennon works it out? He's been dreadful since he signed.


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[Thecat23]

Needs dropped, he's been poor in almost all the games he's played. Lewis deserves to be in the side!

[calumhibee1]

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True however we all know the abilities there, the guys not even 100% fit yet and there's calls to drop him. Seems harsh so me

It's the middle of September, why would he not be fit?

[cleanyman]

What about Ambrose? He's **** as well

[wookie70]

Whittaker looked disinterested today imo. I would say there isn't much between him and SDG for right back but Stevenson offers far more for me on the left. I would also see what Porteous is like because Ambrose and Hanlon don't look like a pair to me.

[pacoluna]

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What about Ambrose? He's **** as well

Let's just call all of them **** because we drew

[cleanyman]

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Let's just call all of them **** because we drew

The entire defence was poor today. Why we calling out SW? Aye he's not been great but Ambrose was another one who had a stinker

[bingo70]

Whittaker wasn't any better or worse than anyone else today, surprised he's been singled out for so much criticism (not just on this thread) but I suppose that comes with the territory when replacing a fans favourite.

I'd probably drop him for Stevenson but only because we need to try something to make us look solid again, not necessarily because Whittaker has done anything drastically wrong.