Behind The Goals

[tamig]

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Time we were competing. Build the tents, they will come.

Will chips be served though? That is the baw breaker.

[MyJo]

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Would it not cost a bomb to retro fit a floor , stairs and supporters bars in the East?

Depending on how extensive they want to make it, it would certainly cost a bob or two to get done which is probably why they aren't committing to it straight away.

If they did it in a way that it was revenue generating outwith matchdays it would make it more feasible. Make it a sports bar with snooker/pool tables etc as well as the bars and have it open to the public outwith matchdays to bring money into the club.

Other than that its probably a semi-permanent structure like the marquee for matchdays only until finances allow for more permanent arrangement or further stadium development.

[Criswell]

As a regular BTG user for years I'm disappointed that it's gone. The replacement does not sound very appealing (if you can ever get in!) Also disappointed that the board did not feel it was necessary to explain fully why this is happening. Not great PR!

[Radium]

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Depending on how extensive they want to make it, it would certainly cost a bob or two to get done which is probably why they aren't committing to it straight away.

If they did it in a way that it was revenue generating outwith matchdays it would make it more feasible. Make it a sports bar with snooker/pool tables etc as well as the bars and have it open to the public outwith matchdays to bring money into the club.

Other than that its probably a semi-permanent structure like the marquee for matchdays only until finances allow for more permanent arrangement or further stadium development.

I had always thought that the steel structure inside the east suggested that a second level was thought about at the design phase.

My degrees are in chemistry though 🥃


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[Andy74]

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How many other grounds in Scotland offer anything similar? The club are doing well for the fans here.

Quite a few really although smaller scale.

We had it though and it feels like we've taken a step back on an important fan offering for something more of benefit to the community than us.

We are a football team at the end of the day. If the other stuff is making us a lot of money then fine but it's a dangerous game to play. It has been part of the match experience, particularly for families.

[Tyler Durden]

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Quite a few really although smaller scale.

We had it though and it feels like we've taken a step back on an important fan offering for something more of benefit to the community than us.

We are a football team at the end of the day. If the other stuff is making us a lot of money then fine but it's a dangerous game to play. It has been part of the match experience, particularly for families.

More benefit to the community than us? Presumably your "us" being the people who used BTG, as it's certainly not us meaning Hibs overall. The community is Hibs too of course.

Clearly this arrangement is going to make the club considerably more money or we wouldn't be doing it. Interesting that several posters back anything the club does until it's something that impacts their routine.

[SChibs]

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As a regular BTG user for years I'm disappointed that it's gone. The replacement does not sound very appealing (if you can ever get in!) Also disappointed that the board did not feel it was necessary to explain fully why this is happening. Not great PR!

It was explained last season through leaflets in behind the goals and a statement on the club website

[SouthsideHarp_Bhoy]

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More benefit to the community than us? Presumably your "us" being the people who used BTG, as it's certainly not us meaning Hibs overall. The community is Hibs too of course.

Clearly this arrangement is going to make the club considerably more money or we wouldn't be doing it. Interesting that several posters back anything the club does until it's something that impacts their routine.

I had heard that we are renting out the whole interior, amd that we are getting commercial rent for it. No idea how much that woyld be, but bound to be some commercial property bods on here who would know?

[Monts]

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I had heard that we are renting out the whole interior, amd that we are getting commercial rent for it. No idea how much that woyld be, but bound to be some commercial property bods on here who would know?

I'm not sure how much rent we will be getting, but it must undoubtedly be significantly more than the takings from a bar that's only open around 100 hours a year.

[Ritchie]

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I had heard that we are renting out the whole interior, amd that we are getting commercial rent for it. No idea how much that woyld be, but bound to be some commercial property bods on here who would know?

I heard it was being rented out to the NHS and the money we are getting was too good to turn down.

[Andy74]

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More benefit to the community than us? Presumably your "us" being the people who used BTG, as it's certainly not us meaning Hibs overall. The community is Hibs too of course.

Clearly this arrangement is going to make the club considerably more money or we wouldn't be doing it. Interesting that several posters back anything the club does until it's something that impacts their routine.

I think you are missing my point.

Yes, football stadiums are used by supporters pretty much only on match days, however, the match day experience is very important.

We assume this is making us money - we haven't heard. We are keen on the community side so I wouldn't be wiling to bet that this is purely money making.

My routine is neither here nor there - it was packed every week, particularly with families.

My daughter loved going there and was part of going to the game for her. They put on games and had the mascot come round etc. At her age she's not really fussed about the game. We just need to be careful we aren't putting off young fans of the future by not having those facilities. If we have plans then great, but the season starts this week and we've heard not a lot on the future offering.

It's not like closing a pub and telling punters to go to the one down the road - it was a mix of facilities that will be very difficult for people to get elsewhere.

[BSEJVT]

Having never used BTG and never intended to, its loss is no big deal to me.

As usual there is the conflict between those than did and the wider benefit the club get from using the space differently.

I would like to think that the offer the club had to use the space was to good to turn down and there was an immediacy to it that prompted them to act before arranging a suitable alternative.

Hats off to them for doing so in time for the season to start but I do wonder how appealing that temporary solution is going to be mid winter.

The next steps are going to be interesting and controversial.

Truckloads of folk have complained long and hard about infrastructure v team spending, many of whom have warned that they don't want to see it re-occurring.

I wonder if (for those of them that used BTG) their self interests will overcome that mantra and how others like me who couldn't care less will react.

I have always believed that infrastructure spending that can deliver increased revenue at a reasonable ROR is worthwhile so I wont be bitching about it but it will be interesting to see how it plays out.

My money would be on a new build in the car park between the east and FF to enclose / square off that part of the stadium and increase seating numbers

[Brightside]

BTG ended up being a total shambles in the last year once they opened it up to anyone with a ticket. Bar staff couldnt cope, far too many people, ST holders not getting in. But the claim was that it didn't make enough money with just ST holders.

Having a Marquee at that end of the ground sounds like trouble waiting to happen. Far too close to away fans.

[bingo70]

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BTG ended up being a total shambles in the last year once they opened it up to anyone with a ticket. Bar staff couldnt cope, far too many people, ST holders not getting in. But the claim was that it didn't make enough money with just ST holders.

Having a Marquee at that end of the ground sounds like trouble waiting to happen. Far too close to away fans.

Wasn't really a shambles, just some people had to stand and although the queues looked big it wasn't any more than a 5-10 minute wait. When it got full people couldn't get in.

[bingo70]

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I think you are missing my point.

Yes, football stadiums are used by supporters pretty much only on match days, however, the match day experience is very important.

We assume this is making us money - we haven't heard. We are keen on the community side so I wouldn't be wiling to bet that this is purely money making.

My routine is neither here nor there - it was packed every week, particularly with families.

My daughter loved going there and was part of going to the game for her. They put on games and had the mascot come round etc. At her age she's not really fussed about the game. We just need to be careful we aren't putting off young fans of the future by not having those facilities. If we have plans then great, but the season starts this week and we've heard not a lot on the future offering.

It's not like closing a pub and telling punters to go to the one down the road - it was a mix of facilities that will be very difficult for people to get elsewhere.

Completely agree, BTG closing is a problem for me as it makes it difficult to go for a pint before the games when I take my boy and rightly or wrongly that's a big part of the day out I enjoy. Likewise he enjoyed the whole day out that came with going to the pub first, he's not going to sit in a normal boozer though, especially a busy one. There's talk of a family zone at norton house (or park, whatever it's called) but again it's not really ideal for the both of us, he'll maybe enjoy it which is great but hundreds of screaming kids, face painting and a bouncy castle isn't really how I'm wanting to spend my day before the football.

At least with the marquee going up they've done something, be interesting to hear how family friendly it's going to be.

[Since90+2]

I suspect the marquee will be less family friendly than BTG simply because its outside the East stand and that area tends to be a younger crowd rather than the FF with the family and older folk. I think its likely to end up as last chance to grab another pint before the game type area rather a family zone.

It actually suits me and probably a lot of folk in the East but probably not for those with kids.

[Nakedmanoncrack]

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I suspect the marquee will be less family friendly than BTG simply because its outside the East stand and that area tends to be a younger crowd rather than the FF with the family and older folk. I think its likely to end up as last chance to grab another pint before the game type area rather a family zone.

It actually suits me and probably a lot of folk in the East but probably not for those with kids.

I think it's highly unlikely to be as family friendly as BTG, I didn't use it (my routine is Hibs Club) but it was a good, popular facility, with potential to be better.

Unfortunately it seems to have been deliberately allowed to deteriorate with ST holders losing priority, and then lost altogether with little, if any consultation. A tent, particularly once it gets towards winter months is unlikely to create the same, safe family space that was available before.

[liscious_hibs]

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Would it not cost a bomb to retro fit a floor , stairs and supporters bars in the East?

Not really, I manage in hospitality (massive chain) and when ever I've seen an expansion it's come at reasonably low cost for what it is (I work in a pub that had a hotel added on). The most expensive part would be the beer lines and the cellar but striking up an exclusive deal with Heineken for example leads to a massive discount on that since Heineken run inserve. All in all maybe 750k - 1m. Also a space that large could be multi-use with a function hall or pool room which could be sub-let to a company like the ball room with a profit share scheme which would add a massive financial boost if it were to be open 7days a week. Huge cash cow, can't think if anywhere to play pool other than dianes pool hall or the casino tbh so could be a great source of income especially if there's a way to segregate it from the main east concourse And if you add on a small kitchen and serve food even more of a mark up very much like the set up in the boot room at Anfield (which btw is exceptional)

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[GreenCastle]

Not sure how I missed this thread but looks great - exactly what we have been asking for - hopefully prices are reasonable and beer decent!

[Hermit Crab]

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Not sure how I missed this thread but looks great - exactly what we have been asking for - hopefully prices are reasonable and beer decent!

Not likely

[bingo70]

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Not sure how I missed this thread but looks great - exactly what we have been asking for - hopefully prices are reasonable and beer decent!

I'd have thought it would make sense to make it a bottle bar. cans of Guinness for the awkward *******s.

[silverhibee]

Any pictures of what it looks like inside, will it just be standing or will seating be put in as well.

[Nicho87]

Did we find out if kids are allowed in ?

[Ritchie]

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Did we find out if kids are allowed in ?

not yet although hibs have just announced a kids zone so there's a chance the new marquee is for adults only.

http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/7746

[ian cruise]

I am not a season ticket holder so it doesn't affect me but I have always quite liked the marquee type set up at rugby and other events. Let's see how it works going forward and feed back to the club, no point worrying about it until we've seen it in operation.

[DarrenSQH]

1000 hibs fans drinking close to the stand pre derbies and big games sounds like it could be great. Much better than behind the goals.

Think theres a kids zone at the west from now on.

[we are hibs]

what's in the big space between the east and famous 5 stands?

[CapitalGreen]

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what's in the big space between the east and famous 5 stands?

Car park

[Brightside]

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1000 hibs fans drinking close to the stand pre derbies and big games sounds like it could be great. Much better than behind the goals.

Think theres a kids zone at the west from now on.

It sounds like madness to me!

[I'm_cabbaged]

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It sounds like madness to me!

Aye, one step beyond.

I'm going to get slated on the pm board now 😂