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25-08-2017 04:52 PM #121
United we stand here....
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25-08-2017 04:57 PM #122This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Top players will only come north for the two Manchester clubs if the London clubs don't want them or can't afford them.
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25-08-2017 04:59 PM #123
Another thing, for all Chelsea and Man City's money, have they really been that successful? One Champions league between them. City have won two titles, despite throwing hundreds of millions at it. Chelski have won 5 titles in 20 years of big investment, suppose it's decent, but neither of them have dominated in the way that Liverpool did in 70's-80's or Man U in the 90's-2000's.
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25-08-2017 05:06 PM #124This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
United we stand here....
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25-08-2017 05:11 PM #125This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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25-08-2017 05:15 PM #126This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
United we stand here....
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25-08-2017 06:24 PM #127This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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25-08-2017 07:16 PM #129This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
United we stand here....
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25-08-2017 07:22 PM #130This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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25-08-2017 07:24 PM #131
Blackpool had Danny Wilson on loan when he was at Liverpool. He was bloody awful. Not quite as bad as Andy Halliday was though.
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26-08-2017 03:12 AM #132This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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26-08-2017 03:53 AM #133This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
The more "traditional" high-end clubs, ones who are crowdfunded by glory hunters, are throwing about similar amounts yet they aren't dominating either. I don't believe that one source of financing is any more acceptable or organic than the other tbh. I'll accept it when these traditional "big" clubs like Liverpool and Manchester United draw their support and funding primarily from the areas they represent. Until that happens again, they're all as fake as each other.
I can't see anyone dominating again like what happened in the 70's to the early noughties. However, its almost as if the saturation of money has meant the game in England has went full circle as far as competition goes and at least there are now several contenders.
Feel dirty saying that though.
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26-08-2017 04:14 AM #134This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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26-08-2017 06:24 AM #135
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But apart from that you're quite correct, Gerrard was definitely world class and it's strange to argue otherwise.
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26-08-2017 08:06 AM #136This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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Leicester's win was the exception that proves the rule though. Teams like Forest and Villa won leagues based on brilliant management and wise expenditure. They splashed some cash, but it wasn't done in the excessive frenzy of todays transfer market.
I don't really understand the crowdfunding point you make though? Are the teams you refer to the likes of Liverpool, Spurs, Man Utd? I don't know the details of how those teams are funded. I suppose Sours and Liverpool are spending a lot of money on developing their grounds, that will curtail investment in players probably. Equally, the massive rise in television coverage helps ensure that folk ( like people in Scotland) form attachments to teams far away from where they stay-that comes with the territory in modern football.
It is debateable whether there is a hierarchy of morality when it comes to the modern game. Whether the cash is spalshed by dubious Russian oligarchs, oil rich Sheikhs or faceless corporate conglomerates, do most fans care? Possibly not.
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26-08-2017 08:56 AM #137This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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26-08-2017 02:32 PM #139This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
All these people who are chasing this glory have collectively skewed things just as much as the Sheiks of this world have. All these Liverpool fans in China and Sweden have just as much to do with Liverpool as Abramovich has to do with London...absolutely nothing.
I fully expect the "that's ridiculous, people can support who they like" argument to be flung back at me but I suspect it would be different if I were speaking to a Doncaster United fan from Doncaster, or any other fan who primarily supports a club who's low status is at the expense of the bigger boys. ;-)
I think it's great that City are shaking things up, as I think all the moaning from people who shouldn't really be bothered is hilarious.Last edited by Pete; 26-08-2017 at 02:39 PM.
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26-08-2017 02:47 PM #140This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I actually have no problem with it to be honest, it's up to Liverpool to try and compete just like it was up to other teams to try and compete with Liverpool when their success was generating the income and enabling them to buy whoever they really wanted. The game has changed and that's how it is, I am also fortunate that I have seen Liverpool win everything there was to win in their glory days. My next project is Hibs, ticked off the League Cup, Scottish Cup just waiting on the league and then Europe.
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26-08-2017 02:52 PM #141This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Unless you know any Sheiks?
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26-08-2017 03:37 PM #142
As a Liverpool fan I'd argue that we are still one of the biggest teams in the world however can we attract the best players that are of a world class standing I'm not sure, but no players that are world class are going to the premiership bar a few they're coming young and developing. That being said selling one player to Man City doesn't mean we're a selling club, every team in the world is a selling team when Barca or real come that's the way it is. Will we win the league playing the way we do? No. Will we progress to the later stages of the CL such as quarter finals playing the way we do? No. Will we win more points against the top 6 than bottom 6 this year with or style of play? Yes. We can't defend to save ourselfs and when we play teams that don't attack we struggle funnily enough Liverpool remind me so much of hibs at times
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26-08-2017 03:54 PM #143
You go anywhere in the world and everyone knows Liverpool. Man City on the other hand nah dont think so. Even the guy that bought them thought he was buying Man U. Mibbe more investment but bigger never. Im not even a Liverpool fan. Dont care for english fitba.
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26-08-2017 04:27 PM #144
A thread on a young Scottish prospect who really is living the dream has descended in to cock measuring over the size of English clubs. Strange.
I wish Andy all the best. Learning at a club that has a proud history and top training facilities will hopefully mature Andy immediately and improve every season.
What a left side we'll have if we can get Tierney and Robbo in the same line up
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26-08-2017 04:48 PM #145This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I know, it's a farce.
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26-08-2017 10:48 PM #146This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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27-08-2017 12:22 AM #147This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
When ADUG bought City they considered Liverpool but rejected them because of the state of Anfield at the time. They considered a number of of other teams, including Everton but felt that City were the best option. They weren't wrong as whatever they spent on buying the club and investing in the playing staff and stadium expansion, they have benefited from the increase in value of the club. They got most of their investment back by selling a minority stake to the Chinese last year.
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27-08-2017 09:02 AM #149
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27-08-2017 09:09 AM #150
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This thread's title really needs changed ...
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