Celtc = The Rangers

[Keith_M]

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This sums it up for me. My worst confrontations in all my years supporting Hibs have come from fans of the Sons of William.

The two two cheeks of the same arse is a lazy arguement. The maxim here should be divide and conquer. Treat the issues with each of the Glasgow team on their merits and recognise that we pander to the status quo by refusing to acknowledge that there are some fundamental differences between the two.

First ever game at home against Rangers: 90 minutes avoiding bottles and cans from the large group of Huns that evaded segregation and stood at the top of the old East Terrace.

First ever home game against Celtc: Hibs end was partly invaded by Celtc fans before the game started and we stood behind a police line down the middle of the East Terrace for the rest of the 90 minutes.



First ever away game against Celtc: No segregation in the East End of Celtc Park and had a bunch of yobs spitting on us for the first half, then we were attacked by older Celtc Fans in the second.

First ever away game against Rangers: I followed some of the older guys on our Bus into the Main Stand and we needed a Police escort back to the bus after the game, due to the couple of hundred Huns waiting to attack us after the match (we were a goup of young kids and middle aged men).




Two cheeks of the same erse!!!!

[Colr]

Lest we forget.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rang...signing_policy

[Johnny Clash]

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I'm sure the people that said they were treated well in any Celtc Clubs before the Cup Final are talking about the staff, not Celtc Supporters in general.

No mate these were actually guys having a pint who were into their football. They weren't into using football as an excuse to batter people just coz they support another team. Like you I've seen loads of mindless violence at football - usually coz of intolerance. Some of our own support think it's ok to dish out kickings just like any other team. So I'll happily talk about football with any decent supporter of another club who isn't full of bitterness and hatred.

As another poster says 'each to their own' so yes I don't mind talking to supporters of other teams. Tories on the other hand... well ...

[Carheenlea]

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[Sean1875]

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http://m.bbc.com/sport/football/40687412

Will it be shut for the yams first game of the season then? Don't know if they've got 2 games before then

[jacomo]

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The bit that makes me sick the most is that both boards play on the sectarian card, and both sets of fans lap it up. Scotlands biggest shame.

[Ozyhibby]

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Spot on. It's simply the facts - not a single Hibs supporters bus goes to sevconians/orange/unionist venues. If they really were 'two cheeks of the same arse' then you wouldn't see this happen. It just doesn't stack up.

It doesn't mean you love Celtc in the slightest. We love Hibs but it's a fact we get treated well by most Celtc people. I've had many decent conversations with Celtc fans who have been in these venues. You just avoid certain sensitive subjects - like Celtc having a Lord on their board ... a member of the Conservative and Unionist party no less. Didn't feel comfortable either talking about their previous chairman - war criminal John Reid , who only stepped down in 2011 to take his seat in the House of Lords. I must admit I was tempted to ask if they thought when 'Lord Reid' gets bevied he still sings... "against the famine and the crown" ..

He's also a former NI secretary.


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[superfurryhibby]

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First ever game at home against Rangers: 90 minutes avoiding bottles and cans from the large group of Huns that evaded segregation and stood at the top of the old East Terrace.

First ever home game against Celtc: Hibs end was partly invaded by Celtc fans before the game started and we stood behind a police line down the middle of the East Terrace for the rest of the 90 minutes.



First ever away game against Celtc: No segregation in the East End of Celtc Park and had a bunch of yobs spitting on us for the first half, then we were attacked by older Celtc Fans in the second.

First ever away game against Rangers: I followed some of the older guys on our Bus into the Main Stand and we needed a Police escort back to the bus after the game, due to the couple of hundred Huns waiting to attack us after the match (we were a goup of young kids and middle aged men).




Two cheeks of the same erse!!!!

Personal experiences of hooligan behaviours of fans aside, there is still a compelling arguement for not buying into the two cheeks stuff. Rangers history of sectrianism was deep rooted and embedded in their culture. I'm not aware of this in relation to Celtic?

[High-On-Hibs]

The difference between Celtic and The Rangers is that it is possible to actually meet a decent, sound minded Celtic fan. You'll never, ever, in a million years meet a decent Rangers fan. A few of them (very few) will seem alright on the surface. But once you get to know them, you'll always wish you never bothered.

[Since90+2]

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The difference between Celtic and The Rangers is that it is possible to actually meet a decent, sound minded Celtic fan. You'll never, ever, in a million years meet a decent Rangers fan. A few of them (very few) will seem alright on the surface. But once you get to know them, you'll always wish you never bothered.

I dislike Rangers more than any other club but sorry it's ridiculous to say you'll never meet a decent Rangers fan. I've met quite a few in my time and im sure most people are the same.

[Carheenlea]

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The difference between Celtic and The Rangers is that it is possible to actually meet a decent, sound minded Celtic fan. You'll never, ever, in a million years meet a decent Rangers fan. A few of them (very few) will seem alright on the surface. But once you get to know them, you'll always wish you never bothered.

I know a few decent Rangers fans. Your own personal experience I suppose. Know a few total roasters who support them as well mind you, but they are best ignored.

[Betty Boop]

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The difference between Celtic and The Rangers is that it is possible to actually meet a decent, sound minded Celtic fan. You'll never, ever, in a million years meet a decent Rangers fan. A few of them (very few) will seem alright on the surface. But once you get to know them, you'll always wish you never bothered.

What a load of nonsense. How do you know there's no decent Rangers fans ? My son supports Rangers and I can assure you he's a decent person.

[Pete]

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The difference between Celtic and The Rangers is that it is possible to actually meet a decent, sound minded Celtic fan. You'll never, ever, in a million years meet a decent Rangers fan. A few of them (very few) will seem alright on the surface. But once you get to know them, you'll always wish you never bothered.

Simply not true. I know plenty.

There are also ones who have different political leanings from myself or they maybe laugh at the odd questionable joke but it doesn't automatically make them bad people.

I don't know. So many intelligent people are unwilling to look out of their own world on this subject for some reason.

[High-On-Hibs]

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Simply not true. I know plenty.

There are also ones who have different political leanings from myself or they maybe laugh at the odd questionable joke but it doesn't automatically make them bad people.

I don't know. So many intelligent people are unwilling to look out of their own world on this subject for some reason.

I know intelligent Rangers fans who seem like great guys...... until you talk about football, religion or politics. It's not just a harmless disagreement, it's sheer venom.

[Waxy]

The old firm. Simply the worst thing that could have happened to Scottish football.

[Pete]

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My son supports Rangers.

Unacceptable.

I'm phoning the welfare.

[Pete]

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I know intelligent Rangers fans who seem like great guys...... until you talk about football, religion or politics. It's not just a harmless disagreement, it's sheer venom.

In my experience most of the guys like that are from places like Fife, Edinburgh and East Lothian who almost have to justify their allegiance by going full-on bigot.

Ive found the Glaswegian ones to be the most reasonable believe it or not.

[Betty Boop]

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Unacceptable.

I'm phoning the welfare.

[Sir David Gray]

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The difference between Celtic and The Rangers is that it is possible to actually meet a decent, sound minded Celtic fan. You'll never, ever, in a million years meet a decent Rangers fan. A few of them (very few) will seem alright on the surface. But once you get to know them, you'll always wish you never bothered.

Utter nonsense.

Rangers as a club are as detestable as it gets but it's simply untrue to say that you don't get decent individual Rangers fans.

[High-On-Hibs]

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Utter nonsense.

Rangers as a club are as detestable as it gets but it's simply untrue to say that you don't get decent individual Rangers fans.

Then what's the logic? Why would any decent individual choose to support something so utterly detestable?

[Betty Boop]

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Then what's the logic? Why would any decent individual choose to support something so utterly detestable?

Looks like you are full of your own prejudices. Hard to believe but for some folk its all about the football.

[MichaelTheCelt]

I was relatively young when Celtic and Hibs played in the Scottish cup final in 2001. My Da and my Uncle took me out to the pub that day to watch the game and in all honesty I didn't really know much about other teams in Scotland at that time apart from Rangers because we share a city with them obviously, but all my other information came from the Pannini sticker albums like, Dundee United being called the Arabs and Dunfermlines mental looking badge and always relating the Dandy to Aberdeen because of their nickname.

The pub we were in that day was quite busy and there was a number of Hibernian fans in there some of whom ended up at our table, guys were roughly about my Das age and they were friendly dudes talking with my Da and my Uncle about the 60's and 70's football, they were going to the game stayed for a few rounds then left. My first ever experience with opposition supporters that were really friendly I always assumed as you do when you are wee that how you see something is how it really is. I genuinely thought as funny as it sounds now that Celtic and Hibs fans liked each other and rooted each other on talk about naivety. Obviously as I got older that was quite clearly nonsense, but I have always had a genuine like for Hibernian especially after that day. I notice the David Gray poster on here says it is patronising I honestly don't see it like that and I think folk of the Hibernian persuasion take it the wrong way.

I think that Celtic fans do have a genuine respect for Hibernian, I've met many a Hibby who were really cool folk though I don't think the team you support makes the person but unfortunately the team you support in Scotland can sadly have political or social implications and being of the Celtic persuasion I know fans of other clubs assume I am some IRA supporting menace and you do sense that uneasiness when speaking to rival fans once yer team has been revealed, never came across that uneasiness talking to Hibby's though. It's always been the complete opposite like ah you support Hibs thank **** thought I might be unfortunate to be talking to a Jambo. Actually find myself quite eager to talk more about football with someone then I find out they are a Hibby, would post more on here but I'm worried I'm a patronising **** without realising it...

And whether some on here like it or not the two sets of supporters generally swing the same way politically (I don't mean IRA, reunification and all that just keeping it domestic although I think all of us on here would love to see Ireland United), I know for a fact we do and that's a reason you'll find Hibbys welcome to be wined and dined as Mr Gray put it, in a Celtic bar.

Have a look at any Celtic forum and check their Hibernian related thread and I guarantee you the majority who are posting in that thread are rooting Hibs on, it's not patronising and if some take it like that then I can only assume it's an inferiority complex? I always want to see Hibs do well I enjoy talking to Hibs fans about the footy. If you were to ask me my favourite non Celtic moment in football hands down it's watching Hibernian win the Scottish cup after soo long a wait not because it was against the The Rangers although that made it pretty sweet.

Sorry that's a bit long winded but it was just in response to folk talking about out of Celtic and Rangers fans which group was less a shower of *******s

And to throw my 2 bob's worth in regards to the banners, didnae like them thought it was stupid the Green Brigade do a lot of good but sometimes they **** up and it's never a small **** up it's usually a monumental **** up. We should leave the Huns to embarrassing themselves and not join them in it. They knew exactly what they were doing and it's was quite obviously meant to get a reaction from the knuckle draggers in the corner who to be honest didn't shower themselves in glory over the two legs but those banners put all the highlight on ourselves and it's embarrassing, they've done amazing banners in the past that were footy related and it would be better if they kept it like that because they bring some atmosphere to the stadium.

Oh and Mon The Hibees get intay County!

[Eyrie]

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Have a look at any Celtic forum and check their Hibernian related thread and I guarantee you the majority who are posting in that thread are rooting Hibs on, it's not patronising and if some take it like that then I can only assume it's an inferiority complex?

Of course it's patronising crap. You wouldn't be rooting Hibs on if you regarded us as rivals, so you're looking down on us with your superiority complex.

I don't have an inferiority complex where Celtc are concerned because I regard you as our rivals, even although we don't prove that often enough on the pitch.

Coming on here as a fan of another team is fine if you're polite. Coming on here to show support for your "other team" isn't.

[One Day]

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That pretty much sums up my own perspective. I have no time for any Club in the world other than Hibs. Over the years though, I've never had any bother with Celtic fans whereas the opposite is the case with Rangers/Sevco fans, who in my opinion, other than the odd exception, really are the **** of the earth. At the end of the day you live life by your experiences and that's mine.

This kind of sums it up for me. Not much time for Celtic but hate the huns, This is mainly due to how I've been treated at Ibrox and even easter road. As a mate once said after walking over the bridge at bothwell street before a huns game "you should walk through them every now and again to realise why you hate them"

[silverhibee]

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Unacceptable.

I'm phoning the welfare.

Son now in custody of the Hibs family.

[18Hibee75]

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Sorry mate, but thats crap.

There's no "love" here for Celtic. But i'd much rather put up with Celtics annoyances than the raw danger of being around sevco fans.

100% agree.

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[Sir David Gray]

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Of course it's patronising crap. You wouldn't be rooting Hibs on if you regarded us as rivals, so you're looking down on us with your superiority complex.

I don't have an inferiority complex where Celtc are concerned because I regard you as our rivals, even although we don't prove that often enough on the pitch.

Coming on here as a fan of another team is fine if you're polite. Coming on here to show support for your "other team" isn't.

Correct. F*** Celtic.

[silverhibee]

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I was relatively young when Celtic and Hibs played in the Scottish cup final in 2001. My Da and my Uncle took me out to the pub that day to watch the game and in all honesty I didn't really know much about other teams in Scotland at that time apart from Rangers because we share a city with them obviously, but all my other information came from the Pannini sticker albums like, Dundee United being called the Arabs and Dunfermlines mental looking badge and always relating the Dandy to Aberdeen because of their nickname.

The pub we were in that day was quite busy and there was a number of Hibernian fans in there some of whom ended up at our table, guys were roughly about my Das age and they were friendly dudes talking with my Da and my Uncle about the 60's and 70's football, they were going to the game stayed for a few rounds then left. My first ever experience with opposition supporters that were really friendly I always assumed as you do when you are wee that how you see something is how it really is. I genuinely thought as funny as it sounds now that Celtic and Hibs fans liked each other and rooted each other on talk about naivety. Obviously as I got older that was quite clearly nonsense, but I have always had a genuine like for Hibernian especially after that day. I notice the David Gray poster on here says it is patronising I honestly don't see it like that and I think folk of the Hibernian persuasion take it the wrong way.

I think that Celtic fans do have a genuine respect for Hibernian, I've met many a Hibby who were really cool folk though I don't think the team you support makes the person but unfortunately the team you support in Scotland can sadly have political or social implications and being of the Celtic persuasion I know fans of other clubs assume I am some IRA supporting menace and you do sense that uneasiness when speaking to rival fans once yer team has been revealed, never came across that uneasiness talking to Hibby's though. It's always been the complete opposite like ah you support Hibs thank **** thought I might be unfortunate to be talking to a Jambo. Actually find myself quite eager to talk more about football with someone then I find out they are a Hibby, would post more on here but I'm worried I'm a patronising **** without realising it...

And whether some on here like it or not the two sets of supporters generally swing the same way politically (I don't mean IRA, reunification and all that just keeping it domestic although I think all of us on here would love to see Ireland United), I know for a fact we do and that's a reason you'll find Hibbys welcome to be wined and dined as Mr Gray put it, in a Celtic bar.

Have a look at any Celtic forum and check their Hibernian related thread and I guarantee you the majority who are posting in that thread are rooting Hibs on, it's not patronising and if some take it like that then I can only assume it's an inferiority complex? I always want to see Hibs do well I enjoy talking to Hibs fans about the footy. If you were to ask me my favourite non Celtic moment in football hands down it's watching Hibernian win the Scottish cup after soo long a wait not because it was against the The Rangers although that made it pretty sweet.

Sorry that's a bit long winded but it was just in response to folk talking about out of Celtic and Rangers fans which group was less a shower of *******s

And to throw my 2 bob's worth in regards to the banners, didnae like them thought it was stupid the Green Brigade do a lot of good but sometimes they **** up and it's never a small **** up it's usually a monumental **** up. We should leave the Huns to embarrassing themselves and not join them in it. They knew exactly what they were doing and it's was quite obviously meant to get a reaction from the knuckle draggers in the corner who to be honest didn't shower themselves in glory over the two legs but those banners put all the highlight on ourselves and it's embarrassing, they've done amazing banners in the past that were footy related and it would be better if they kept it like that because they bring some atmosphere to the stadium.

Oh and Mon The Hibees get intay County!

Thought you were a Celt, surely you would know the proper spelling of your club name is Celtc. Source, patronising Celtc fans at ER with those stupid banners.

[18Hibee75]

The way I look at is this, as a hibs fan when we are playing celtic at Celtic Park or Easter road for that matter, you can walk down the street not looking for any trouble with hibs colours on next to celtic fans and get no bother. The same can't be said for the huns however, I once made the mistake of going to ibrox via the subway with a hibs scarf on, I was with my 13 year old son and kept my head down, I was spat on, called a "fenian" b******, "F*** the pope" was also shouted at me? I'm nor Catholic or protestant and they had assumed that I was just because I was a hibs fan.

FWIW I do not look out for celtics results and most of the time want to see them lose. I do not have any type of admiration for celtic. I do not look at them as "our cousins from glasgow" and I do dislike their support.

I do however, prefer celtic a lot more to Sevco. Not only because of the disgusting interactions I have had with their fans but because of the pure hatred they have for catholics, their songs that have the words "up to our knees in fenian blood" and the fact that every rangers fan on twitter seems to despise the pope and love the Queen.

I have family members who are Catholic but personally I do not believe in any religious crap. The fact that it literally separates two FOOTBALL teams and makes them have a pure hatred for each other really annoys me. Politics does not belong in football.

P.S I have no problem with tri colours at ER as hibs are Irish.


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[lapsedhibee]

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hibs are Irish

Nope.