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19-07-2017 10:07 AM #61
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19-07-2017 10:17 AM #62This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
"Ever will have"? You satisfied with on Scottish Cup? You don't want more and bigger?
The OP reads "of all time". That means EVER. Three championships, the inaugural European Cup, and a career spanning the period of Hibs' greatest success (from the Second World War till the mid-late 50's) all that speaks for itself. That's no discredit to David Gray or the rest of the Cup-winning team.
Guys of my father's generation would hear my generation raving about Pat S, and their answer was always, "Aye, Pat's a great player, but you never saw Gordon Smith".
I have a canvas print of King Pat scoring the opener at Hampden in 1972 - the first trophy win since the Famous Five - and I treasure my memories of him. He was awesome, and my heart would put him forward here. But my head and my reason say "Gordon Smith".
And how do you know what was MY greatest moment supporting Hibs? Or anyone else's? Hm?
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19-07-2017 10:28 AM #63
I don't think you can really award Legend status to any of the current players, although I understand why lots of people would disagree in regards to members of the Cup winniing team. I'd say the achievement itself was legendary.
IMO, the word Legend can only be appled to players that were genuinely among the greatest of their generation, like Smith, Johnstone and Cormack (each of these three players also had fantastic careers after leaving Hibs).
Don't get me wrong, I'd be delighted if some of the current bunch went on to have 'legendary' careers but such is football nowadays that, if they did, it would unlikely to be at Hibs.
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19-07-2017 11:17 AM #65
Sir David Gray for me. He's not the the best player I've ever seen, but he is a true legend.
United we stand here....
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19-07-2017 11:19 AM #66
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I think it's unfair to compare the players of today to the players back then. Football is a whole different ball game now. We'll undoubtedly never attract the calibre of players that we did back then. The gap in the distribution of money in the footballing world today is far greater than it was back then.
I think we need to judge players on the now, rather than comparing them to the players of the past. In modern times, the likes of David Grey, Lewis Stevenson and Anthony Stokes are all Hibernian legends. A Scottish Cup win or a 3rd place (possibly 2nd) finish in the top league is the best we can hope for these days.
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19-07-2017 11:25 AM #67This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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19-07-2017 11:38 AM #68
I'm surprised if anyone picks someone other than David Gray.
The guy scored the goal which fulfilled dream of a lifetime and gave me the best day of my life.
No other Hibs player has even come close to doing that.
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19-07-2017 11:47 AM #69
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19-07-2017 11:55 AM #71This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Greatest player who has ever played for the club? No. But his heroics will forever be spoken about. He led the greatest day in our history.
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19-07-2017 12:04 PM #72
There are different reasons why a player might be considered to be a legend.
Stanton is an obvious candidate due to how good a player he was over such a long period.
Gray is entirely deserving in his own right though. Our miserable record in the Scottish Cup was a massive part of the story of our club. For the first time, certainly in my lifetime, we were within touching distance of being able to do it. His leadership, his performance and his goal epitomised the sort of spirit that we had all too often lacked, and showed us what it took to make the dream a reality.
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19-07-2017 12:08 PM #73
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I'd need to go for Sir David Gray, not the most gifted of players but he is a legend for the biggest, most important goal in the clubs history. I think if the same question is posed in 10 years time we will have a more romantic notion of Sir David Gray's contribution to the Hibees.
There are two players that are close to SDG but didn't do anything as special as that day in May. Steve Archibald was quality, can you imagine Hibs signing a player from Barcelona again! He oozed class. Also Franck Sauzee was quality, I would love to see him back at ER one day so we can thank him for gracing ER with his technique...they way he left the club was disappointing.
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19-07-2017 12:17 PM #74This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
For me me a legend doesn't necessarily have to have anything to do with their ability as a footballer.
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19-07-2017 12:49 PM #75
Impossible to get agreement on this as it's down to perception and individual views. There is no "right or wrong" answer.
However, on pure footballing ability, skill and devotion to the cause, you will be hard pressed to find a better player than Gordon Smith. The best player I never seen play. I take advice under caution. The more I hear something, from a broad spectrum of people (some of whom, I trust and respect) the more likely I am to trust that viewpoint. I've heard enough and read enough from people with first hand experience including teammates and others of an older generation who witnessed the man to know that it takes a lot to get such praise. Smith. The best. Lawrie Reilly's hero. How much more praise do you need?
Any of the 5 though in reality would be good choices; to do as they done, with the resources back then wont be equalled. Yes, they failed to win the Scottish Cup...look what they DID achieve and back in a day when times were so different and rules (and application thereof) were different.
Stanton was and is a legend and is pretty much the most Mr Hibs you will find alive these days, of the former playing variety. Still remember him telling me to respect the shirt as I fumbled along Albion Road munching a Greggs pie early one Saturday morning and spilling a bit mince on the shirt (fair dues, slastering I was)
Modern era; you'll need to look hard to find a better goalscorer than Riordan, save for Griffiths maybe though I still remember Deek's goals with much joy. Much much joy. Sparky done a job too tho...and then some.
Yes, our cup winning team were legendary but legend status cannot and should not come as easily as a run of cup matches for every player or even a cup winning scorer in my view. Long term contribution to the cause does that. HOWEVER, Gray and Stokesy and the rest of the lads should be given the respect they deserve for being the first team in (a few) years to win that cup. Remember though; we were and are more than just the Scottish Cup. IT was great to win; ****ing braw as it goes and to beat the huns was exceptionally brilliantly braw to boot....BUT, we are far more than just a team that eventually won the Scottish Cup. And that's due to the aforementioned legends.
Make me pick, it must be Smith. Stanton close behind and level with the rest of the Famous Five. Beyond that, the term should be used a bit more sparingly I reckon.
Good to have such a choice though unlike some **** pub teams and newly formed co's (who have never won the Scottish Cup I add)
Its good to be green. God is a Hibby.
ENDOF
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19-07-2017 01:37 PM #76
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Apart from scoring the Cup winning goal and changing the whole direction our Club was heading off the park and on it , helping boost season ticket sales , giving long suffering supporters a magical day, welding young fans to the club for life, sickening thousands of Jambos and tearing up their songbook and swamping Edinburgh with thousands of Hibs one fine Sunday what's David Gray ever done for us ?
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19-07-2017 01:59 PM #77
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Pat stanton..class on and off the pitch
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19-07-2017 02:05 PM #78
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Joe Baker and Pat Stanton both my hero's and legends
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19-07-2017 02:08 PM #79
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hooked after that .
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19-07-2017 02:34 PM #82This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I don't know, but I would love to see him return one day so the fans can give him the reception he deserves. Magnificent player that just oozed class.
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19-07-2017 05:44 PM #83
It all depends on what is meant by the expression "legendary" I suppose.
I didn't see the following two players in their playing days, but from what I've been told by many who did (supporters of Hibs, Hearts, Celtic, Rangers and many other clubs too), and what the history books tell me, it would be between Gordon Smith and Laurie Reilly.
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19-07-2017 05:52 PM #84This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
The ball's still in his court.
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19-07-2017 06:46 PM #85This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
IMO Sauzee was the only player who did that no4 jersey justice after Pat Stanton....
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19-07-2017 10:37 PM #86
Sorry folks but I don't agree that Sauzee is a legend.
Great player aye but he ain't no Sir David.No Eternal Reward Shall Forgive Us Now For Wasting The Dawn
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19-07-2017 10:45 PM #87This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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19-07-2017 10:53 PM #89This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Completely agree James.
It's a one way relationship .No Eternal Reward Shall Forgive Us Now For Wasting The Dawn
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19-07-2017 10:53 PM #90
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I've never been able to pick my favourite legend so I'll just opt for all of 'Turnbull's Tornadoes' - each and every one of them are MY legends ! Played the game as only you can imagine in the wildest of your dreams !
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