Church says no

[snooky]

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Thought he could have been a good signing. Totally understand his reason not for signing though.

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Three reasons I think you might be a clandestine Rangers fan, O39.

[eastmainsmsh]

He couldn't cut it at rkc

[mixumatosis]

I don't care. I'll touch it if I want, it's my body. (Has someone done this joke already ?)

[Eyrie]

As an atheist I'm very relaxed about having no Church at Easter Road.

[Scouse Hibee]

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As an atheist I'm very relaxed about having no Church at Easter Road.

I was looking forward to the denomination debate.

[monktonharp]

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Some people are homely and don't like uprooting regardless of where too. Can't fault her if she doesn't want to move to a new city away from family and friends!

Seems completely reasonable to me.

Berkshire is miles away

[monktonharp]

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Aye because our budget allows us to full internationals with 38 full caps as back ups. Seriously?

we just signed a 33 yr old with 31 caps Not sure where he fits in yet though

[Velma Dinkley]

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I think he's been offered a decent deal as a first choice striker and has turned it down. Not necessarily "top end" but I highly doubt he was being looked at as back-up and there's nothing to indicate this the case.

His history of injury and the fact we didn't offer him a deal he felt was worth relocating his family for (ie presumably not a long deal) are decent indicators.

[Tyler Durden]

I'm pleased to read this. He's not very good as will be proved now from wherever he ends up.

38 caps for Wales means nothing.

The apparent lack of other targets is a bit more worrying but hopefully we're waiting for the trickle down effect of English teams making their own signings and freeing up players

[davhibby]

Article in the Sun with quotes from Lennon saying he was never offered a deal

[southern hibby]

If we're that desperate for a Church we could always go for the one at the top of Easter Road as its up for sale.


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[Viva_Palmeiras]

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Article in the Sun with quotes from Lennon saying he was never offered a deal

Sounds like someone is going to confession on that point then ;)

[lucky]

Players and agents play games to get the best deals they can. Big Dave never had to go on trial to get a deal but Church had to come up and try and prove himself. That in itself tells you Lennon was not convinced by him

[J-C]

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I'm pleased to read this. He's not very good as will be proved now from wherever he ends up.

38 caps for Wales means nothing.

The apparent lack of other targets is a bit more worrying but hopefully we're waiting for the trickle down effect of English teams making their own signings and freeing up players

Owen Tudor Jones has 7 caps for Wales and he was bloody awful.

[greenlex]

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Players and agents play games to get the best deals they can. Big Dave never had to go on trial to get a deal but Church had to come up and try and prove himself. That in itself tells you Lennon was not convinced by him

I think it was more to do with proving his fitness and desire to be here. Rather like Pennant.

[bigwheel]

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Players and agents play games to get the best deals they can. Big Dave never had to go on trial to get a deal but Church had to come up and try and prove himself. That in itself tells you Lennon was not convinced by him

Lennon offered him deal - he wanted him...

[bingo70]

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Lennon offered him deal - he wanted him...

Think Lennon denied that in yesterday's press conference.

[BoomtownHibees]

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Lennon offered him deal - he wanted him...

So is NL lying?

[bigwheel]

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Think Lennon denied that in yesterday's press conference.

Ah...thanks hadn't heard that

[SouthsideHarp_Bhoy]

Managers lie all the time in pressers. Or do you really believe that lenny also has no idea what the situation is with Stokes.

Id be concerned if that were the case, but im certain it isnt.

[Souter96Mac]

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Managers lie all the time in pressers. Or do you really believe that lenny also has no idea what the situation is with Stokes.

Id be concerned if that were the case, but im certain it isnt.

I think that situation is different as Stokes is still contracted to Blackburn and there's not been any announcement on their end to suggest he's been released just yet.

[SRHibs]

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Managers lie all the time in pressers. Or do you really believe that lenny also has no idea what the situation is with Stokes.

Id be concerned if that were the case, but im certain it isnt.

I'd say Church has more reason to lie (increasing demand for himself) than Lennon does.

[mjhibby]

I would find it hard to believe that we offered church a deal then signed Davy a few days later. They presumably were designated the target man role and daveys deal would have taking a wee while to piece together. Church was on trial and daveys wasn't. On all available evidence it would point to church stretching the truth.

[CapitalGreen]

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I'd say Church has more reason to lie (increasing demand for himself) than Lennon does.

This, you got to ask why Church was doing radio interviews the day after. Sounds to me like his agent wanted to get ahead of the news that we were not keeping him on and was making sure people knew he was still available.

[bigwheel]

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I'd say Church has more reason to lie (increasing demand for himself) than Lennon does.

I don't think either will be lying...the truth is football deals take a number of routes and twist and turns. For Church to have been with us so long, there will have likely been some level of conversation with his agent about deal expectations. We may well have not offered formally any deal..but he may have got an indication that it would only be a one year deal. I suspect neither is outright lying.

[Brightside]

I suggest people need to stop bed wetting about us missing out on deal when we aren't.

[SlickShoes]

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I would find it hard to believe that we offered church a deal then signed Davy a few days later. They presumably were designated the target man role and daveys deal would have taking a wee while to piece together. Church was on trial and daveys wasn't. On all available evidence it would point to church stretching the truth.

With what Lennon is saying now it looks more like Church was option 2 if Davy didn't work out, none of us knew about him and he was signed really quickly after Church went to the media to say he had turned us down.

[J-C]

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I suggest people need to stop bed wetting about us missing out on deal when we aren't.

The same goes for Lafferty, he didn't show up and no deal was ever spoken about, he was an option that popped up unexpectedly as we hadn't look at him initially until his representatives wanted a meeting, he wasn't a target to lose out on.

[bigwheel]

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I suggest people need to stop bed wetting about us missing out on deal when we aren't.

...that's football is it not...Danni Alves recently shook hands face to face with Guardiola on a move to Man City, then his girlfriend preferred Paris to Manchester and he ended up at PSG..it happens to even the big money clubs. They then went and secured Walker from Spurs. We will have definitely missed out on some of our targets. Yet, as I'm sure you have said , we will have a big list, and then go to the other options..

[CMurdoch]

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I don't think either will be lying...the truth is football deals take a number of routes and twist and turns. For Church to have been with us so long, there will have likely been some level of conversation with his agent about deal expectations. We may well have not offered formally any deal..but he may have got an indication that it would only be a one year deal. I suspect neither is outright lying.

I'm with you on this explanation.