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16-07-2017 11:15 PM #121
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17-07-2017 07:07 AM #123This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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17-07-2017 08:27 AM #124
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17-07-2017 09:12 AM #126This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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17-07-2017 09:39 AM #127
I remember thinking that he didn't really do that much, but the little that he did was hugely significant.
He didn't exactly grab games by the scruff of the neck and dominate them.
But the wee pass through the defence against Falkirk, the free-kick at the end and I'm sure there were other contributions - these won points, allowed us to pull away from United at a crucial stage in our league season and in the end imo played a huge part in winning us the league.
Watching him over 90 minutes though, he didn't actually do that much.
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17-07-2017 09:39 AM #128
Tbh, as great as Commons is and while I would be happy if he signed, at the same time i'd have my reservations.
1. If he wanted to sign for us, why didn't he sign in January, instead of sitting on his arse the past 7 months at Sellic?
2. What's the story with his back?
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17-07-2017 09:44 AM #129This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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17-07-2017 10:05 AM #130
It's funny how people remember things so differently as I remember his brief spell at Hibs as being one of the highlights of last season, where we seemed to have a dominance over the other clubs that we didn't really regain.
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17-07-2017 10:14 AM #131This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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17-07-2017 10:15 AM #132
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There is a question of the whether at 34 and with a back problem of unknown severity, he will play enough games for us to be worth a big wage.
We were in a weaker league last year and I think there are legitimate question marks about whether given his age and fitness he would give us enough against the likes of the Ugly Sisters, Hearts, Aberdeen and St Johnstone.
These are the kind of games where we will have to battle hard for the ball, chase the opposition and work rate and general fitness levels will be critical.
With question marks around McGeough's fitness I'm not sure we can afford to have two (presumably) high earners that may not play many games for us.
The other question is where does he play and who then misses out?
We have a decent range of midfielders with Swanson and young Murray now part of the squad and offering us more going forward than last year.
I don't doubt Commons quality but the deal must be right for us.
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17-07-2017 10:16 AM #133This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
His thunderbolt free kick against Falkirk was a defining moment in the season.
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17-07-2017 10:20 AM #134
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If we want to finish as high as we can we need to also take risks. Financial wise yeah Commons could be a risk if not involved depending on how a deal is structured however if he is able to play then we have a great player.
100% worth the risk. This type of player tells me top 6 isnt target (never should be) but right up there.
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17-07-2017 10:41 AM #135
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A couple of initial points -
I'm a big fan of Neil Lennon as a person and a football manager. I love his commitment and his character. Similarly, Commons seems like a good guy with his head screwed firmly on. He's really talented and he would be right up there with the best in our squad, better on his day.
...that being said, I'm starting to long for the days of Stubbsy pulling a Malonga, a Scott Allan, a SDG, a Fraser Fyvie out of the bag.
We've made some good signings under Lennon and I hope Swanson, Efe and Rocky will continue that trend now they're permanently signed up. I just feel like there is ZERO imagination from Lennon when it comes to signings.
Look what Celtic are doing currently, taking calculated punts on young players like Paddy Roberts, Ntcham, Benyu etc etc. Obviously they're shopping in a different market to us, but where are our calculated gambles on exciting young players?
Jermaine Pennant, Tony Stokes, Scott McDonald, Grant Holt, Kris Commons, Kelvin Wilson. Don't get me wrong, some of these guys could do a great job for Hibs - but am I the only one who feels a bit underwhelmed by the players we've been linked to?
I'm not trying to make a negative here out of Commons potentially signing, I'd be pretty happy about that (fitness dependent) and I'm buzzing for the new season, just making what I think is a fair observation
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17-07-2017 10:49 AM #136This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Also these players tend to become available towards the end of the window perhaps as they set their sights lower or their agent widens the net. SDG was Stubbs' first signing and that wasn't until 8th July.
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17-07-2017 11:16 AM #137
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17-07-2017 11:24 AM #139
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17-07-2017 11:25 AM #140This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Thet were playing on Saturday.
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17-07-2017 11:32 AM #141This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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17-07-2017 11:38 AM #142This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
If only I knew at the time what a hero we had just signed
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17-07-2017 02:41 PM #143
Firstly Commons contribution at that time was important, he had little say in coming for the rest of the season due to wages but is now a free agent. He's had a wee op on his back which hopefully fixes his problem, so if fit he's a no brainer. Wages shouldn't be a problem as he isn't going South due to his wife's charity commitments and his kids being st school, Lennons connection will be important in his decision to join. He wants to get into coaching, so a player/coach role could be an interest.
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17-07-2017 02:55 PM #144This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Would you not prefer us to sign players of proven quality rather than an exciting gamble??
You have also answered part of your question yourself.... Smellic are in a totally different transfer league to the rest and can afford the likes of Roberts and co!!
I rather we didn't waste a wage on a gamble (mind you every transfer is a gamble).
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17-07-2017 03:16 PM #145
Kris Commons scored two goals of immeasurable importance to us in terms of pulling away from the chasing pack at the pivotal point in last season. I for one would be delighted to see him back if fit or on some form of pay-as-you-play deal if there is any doubt over that.
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17-07-2017 03:20 PM #146This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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17-07-2017 05:12 PM #147
Commons range of passing, finishing, vision and set pieces are all top class. I'd love someone to find a young player we could afford who has even close to Commons ability. We already have a midfield made of talented young players, experience and a final ball is what Commons provides. I reckon we should jump at the chance to sign him if it's on.
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19-07-2017 01:59 PM #149
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19-07-2017 02:07 PM #150This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Just seen the pic, it looks like keyhole surgery and you'd be surprised how quickly you can recover om this, don't think it's major surgery just a wee clean up job.
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