Same old complaint as last few seasons, but our full backs in particular but also others, just don't get enough decent quality crosses into the box. Both Stevenson and Gray delay putting the ball in early and too often dont get it past the first defender. Boyle also has a habit.of this as well ...anyone any ideas of why this is still a weakness if ours ?
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15-07-2017 06:22 PM #1
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15-07-2017 06:26 PM #3
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15-07-2017 06:26 PM #4
Great (right footed) assist from Stevenson for the first, him and Gray put several good balls in as well as the poorer deliveries.
Even the best wingers in the world don't cross a great ball all the time.
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15-07-2017 06:28 PM #5
Nothing wrong with the crossing today. Every cross in a game isn't always hit pin point or indeed past the defender.
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15-07-2017 06:31 PM #7
I thought our crossing was generally good.
We should have scored from Boyle's one to Shaw at the end.
We scored from a couple of headers after crosses into the box, and won a penalty after another of Lewis' crosses.
I don't know if I've ever seen a game where we've had a better end product from our crosses.
There were a few poor and average crosses but that's always going to be the case. They can't always be good.
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15-07-2017 06:48 PM #8
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Against that opposition we got some.results today ..and.I have absolute no expectation of.every crossbeing.on the money, but at this level when we get into these positions the crosses need to count, about a 40.50% have to get into the danger area .. I think today was perhaps seemed a bit better the reality will be more visible as we go on ...hope for the best as its vital as we have seen !!
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15-07-2017 07:24 PM #9
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15-07-2017 07:29 PM #10
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Out of interest, can you name any teams or even players who excel at crossing? I genuinely can't.
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15-07-2017 07:32 PM #12
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15-07-2017 09:17 PM #13
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If thats Lewis's return today, he might mean he has been working on it, which is all good for the season if he continues with that form into the league . will watch with interest hoping he can !
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15-07-2017 09:36 PM #14
A 4 nil victory and still someone needs to find fault in the performance. I despair sometimes.
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15-07-2017 09:44 PM #15
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No stats on Gray or Boyle.We were counting as there was a guy along from us moaning about Lewis and his crossing. He never once praised his good crosses.
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15-07-2017 10:23 PM #18
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It would be interesting to know if the player crossing the ball is told to hit a certain area (front post/back post) because management have seen a weakness or if they are just playing freely like we all did in the playground?
Personally I think a lot of crosses end up looking crap because the crosser is told to hit an area but the forward is not switched on all the time
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15-07-2017 10:27 PM #19
The current stats / trends in football are showing more goals from wide cut backs than previously - think about Champions League final...Ronaldo etc.
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As often as not, a defender will get to it but if the attacker does then the chances of scoring are far higher than a lofted ball to a player deeper in the box. So the percentage chance of contact is lower but the conversion rate is higher, should the attacker make contact. One can only guess that's based on in-depth analysis. It also explains why so many club fans complain about crosses not beating the first man!
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16-07-2017 02:06 AM #23
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This debate keeps coming up on this forum particularly about Stevenson and Gray holding us back cause of their crossing when in actual fact only 1 in 92 crosses in the top four divisions in England end up as a goal. Just shows that scoring from a cross is becoming a lot more difficult in modern football than before, not sure why but I think it shows that we're not the only ones struggling at times. Today though our crossing was brilliant and a weak footed cross from Stevenson got us going today, but I'm sure some people who slate him next week will forget that.
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16-07-2017 09:07 AM #24
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Welcome to the new season and already your getting on his back!
Its not IF that is his return for the game yesterday it IS his return and maybe if you would give the guy some credit for that then you may have had to watch and criticise another player.
Watch the game and you would have seen his contribution to it along with the other 10 Hibs players on the park!
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16-07-2017 09:46 AM #27
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First competitive game score 4 and clean sheet (yes poor opposition) academy players doing well yet we find a way to criticise the team.
Poor crossing farf!! Someone has provided positive facts yet I bet someone will find a way to try and disprove it.
Literally do wonder what folk think!
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16-07-2017 10:48 AM #29
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The crossing isn't the issue for me. Its the failure to take on the defender and get to the byline for a cut back. Pretty much the easiest goal you can score and we hardly ever attempt it.
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16-07-2017 08:00 PM #30
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Not sure how the crossing comments turns into the response about watching his contribution and the other 10 players on the park ? And I have not critcised what was a decent early season performance with a lot of positives (IMO) At no point do I mention anything negative about the performance, yet a viewpoint on crossing has returned a range of have a pop comments of a wholesale negativity that some.people have derived from my initial part of the thread, by all means have a go in response to the crossing topic but don't make up what you want about anything else please.
Back on topic happy to concede that.I appear to have a different view and expectation level regards crosses and what's deemed an acceptable ratio of crosses getting into the box, the points made about the assists from crosses yesterday is a more than fair point, my issue is that we had lot more opportunities to get the ball in and didn't succeed, but thats my expectation. As.has been stated its an absolutely vital part of the game from where goals, as we saw definitely come from, so wanting more and better quality when we work hard to get into those positions is exactly why I raise the point.
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