Griffiths tying scarf to post

[RIP Bestie]

Why would you do this?
i love Griffiths and I understand that he took abuse and had things thrown at him. But for me he really had to start acting like a professional and leading by example.
This was a high profile game for all that is wrong in society never mind football.
This game had to be rearranged due to religious hatred.and you would expect that the professionals involved would not try to light any fuses.
If a supporter was seen to be doing anything that was deemed to ignite hatred in a situation like this, let's make no bones about it, he/she would have been lifted and dragged in front of a court facing a charge of a hate crime.
Leigh let himself down here, it could be argued that he done the same against Hearts. It was irresponsible and stupid and poured fuel, unnecessarily, on an already poisonous and unacceptable situation.

[High-On-Hibs]

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Why would you do this?
i love Griffiths and I understand that he took abuse and had things thrown at him. But for me he really had to start acting like a professional and leading by example.
This was a high profile game for all that is wrong in society never mind football.
This game had to be rearranged due to religious hatred.and you would expect that the professionals involved would not try to light any fuses.
If a supporter was seen to be doing anything that was deemed to ignite hatred in a situation like this, let's make no bones about it, he/she would have been lifted and dragged in front of a court facing a charge of a hate crime.
Leigh let himself down here, it could be argued that he done the same against Hearts. It was irresponsible and stupid and poured fuel, unnecessarily, on an already poisonous and unacceptable situation.

Dragged in front of a court facing a charge for tying a scarf to the post?

I think you've had enough tonight mate!

[OsloHibs]

Completely agree- it's stupid. You don't ever tie your colours around the goals in your opponents ground no matter what. I don't like that side of things, just celebrate the win with your fans.

[RIP Bestie]

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Dragged in front of a court facing a charge for tying a scarf to the post?

I think you've had enough tonight mate!

Had no drink dafty. Just because you don't agree doesn't mean I'm pissed.
Have a wee think to yourself about the situation and how inflamitory the action could have been.
it was stupid and believe me I have seen people taken to court for an awful lot less facing a charge of a hate crime..

[scoopyboy]

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Completely agree- it's stupid. You don't ever tie your colours around the goals in your opponents ground no matter what. I don't like that side of things, just celebrate the win with your fans.

Whole point being there were no Celtic fans present so how was he going to celebrate with them?

[RIP Bestie]

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Whole point being there were no Celtic fans present so how was he going to celebrate with them?

Just go back to the dressing room. Act like an adult and a professional. Set an example.
Dont try to cause a problem.

[Hibeesmad]

He got booked for complaining to the ref about having bottles and coins thrown at him. If the Linfield fans are giving him that disrespect then tying a scarf to a post is hardly a disgrace

[RIP Bestie]

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He got booked for complaining to the ref about having bottles and coins thrown at him. If the Linfield fans are giving him that disrespect then tying a scarf to a post is hardly a disgrace

Fair point, which I had made in my original post.
Wonder what the feeling would have been amongst us if the likes of Skacel had have done that sort of thing at Easter Road.
That would have just inflamed a local rivalry hatred, this could have had political and sectarian implications.

[AZhibee]

I'm sure the Linfield players really appreciate their fans behavior, with a trip to Glasgow coming.

[High-On-Hibs]

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Fair point, which I had made in my original post.
Wonder what the feeling would have been amongst us if the likes of Skacel had have done that sort of thing at Easter Road.
That would have just inflamed a local rivalry hatred, this could have had political and sectarian implications.

We'd be outraged. But so what?

Some people just want to suck the fun right out of the game. I'm kind of hoping one of those Hearts clowns does something daft in the first derby at ER, anything to add extra intensity to the atmosphere.

[AZhibee]

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We'd be outraged. But so what?

Some people just want to suck the fun right out of the game. I'm kind of hoping one of those Hearts clowns does something daft in the first derby at ER, anything to add extra intensity to the atmosphere.

Agreed

[Mcpakeisgod]

I do get the OP's post, but you have to remember these guys are human, if I was getting glass bottles, coins, other objects thrown at me. Would I just walk back to the dressing room and keep the head. Probably not, it's easy to say someone should act professional. It the fact is we're not the ones getting missiles launched at.

Taking that into account I probably would have reacted in a similar way

[Pete]

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I do get the OP's post, but you have to remember these guys are human, if I was getting glass bottles, coins, other objects thrown at me. Would I just walk back to the dressing room and keep the head. Probably not, it's easy to say someone should act professional. It the fact is we're not the ones getting missiles launched at.

Taking that into account I probably would have reacted in a similar way

I'm willing to bet that you're in your twenties like Leigh. I probably would have reacted in a similar fashion if I were his age and I had been provoked. Nothing to do with anything other than immaturity on my part. You don't think about political symbolism in an atmosphere like that no matter how much you are told. It's about the athletic competition first and foremost and after that there might be a bit of room for tribalism.

To the OP, I totally understand but nobody understands until they have wisdom.

[hibbiedon]

Could not care less what Celtic players do, the player in question has done that several times now that he plays for that Glasgow club. This will make him a hero with their supporters now but not with me

[Viva_Palmeiras]

How so a "hate crime" ? Serious question. In the mad world of football and in particular NI provocative perhaps but a "hate crime"?

"a crime motivated by racial, sexual, or other prejudice, typically one involving violence"

is it even a crime? Breach of the peace?

"public disturbance, or an act considered likely to cause on"

if if that starts being applied where does it end with footballl?

[Pete]

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How so a "hate crime" ? Serious question. In the mad world of football and in particular NI provocative perhaps but a "hate crime"?

"a crime motivated by racial, sexual, or other prejudice, typically one involving violence"

is it even a crime? Breach of the peace?

"public disturbance, or an act considered likely to cause on"

if if that starts being applied where does it end with footballl?

I think you need to have a look at the end of the 2016 Scottish cup final.

Only then can we have a mature discussion about certain types of provocation by people who are nothing more than troublemaking fenians.

[Mikey09]

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Why would you do this?
i love Griffiths and I understand that he took abuse and had things thrown at him. But for me he really had to start acting like a professional and leading by example.
This was a high profile game for all that is wrong in society never mind football.
This game had to be rearranged due to religious hatred.and you would expect that the professionals involved would not try to light any fuses.
If a supporter was seen to be doing anything that was deemed to ignite hatred in a situation like this, let's make no bones about it, he/she would have been lifted and dragged in front of a court facing a charge of a hate crime.
Leigh let himself down here, it could be argued that he done the same against Hearts. It was irresponsible and stupid and poured fuel, unnecessarily, on an already poisonous and unacceptable situation.

Wow. Dragged in front of the courts aye?! Are you of the opinion fans can dish out physical and verbal abuse without a player having a wee dig back? I don't give a **** how volitile the game was. That says more about Linfields bigoted, sectarian fans than anything or anyone else. Get a grip. Linfield deserve all that's coming there way as they exploit the sectarian ****. Horrible club with horrible fans. But Leigh having a dig back is the issue?

[lucky]

He did it at Ibrox last year as well. Then in the second game Rangers put two stewards on the posts to stop it happening again so placed a scarf on the penalty spot. For me he's doing it to noise up the home teams fans and play up to the Celtic supporters. I dont believe it's sectarian just a wind up. But if a Hearts player did it at ER I doubt many would be so tolerant about it.

[SeanWilson]

If he played for hibs and done this following the abuse he'd received all game; I'd absolutely love it. He's a Celtic player and I couldn't care less.

[adhibs]

Irresponsible yes, but hope it wound everyone connected to Linfield up stinking.

[JDT]

Its almost as if he's playing up to celtic fans to try and get their backing knowing his Hibs affiliation. Trying to hard to get them to like him sorta thing. What happened during the game was a disgrace though!

[Elephant Stone]

If an opposition player tied a scarf to the goalposts at Easter Road I would kill myself.

[hibsbollah]

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If an opposition player tied a scarf to the goalposts at Easter Road I would kill myself.

Me too. Not before booting the cat across the room with my size 11s and writing a stern letter to my MP. Tying a scarf round a post, its tantamount to genocide.

[Baw187]

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I'm willing to bet that you're in your twenties like Leigh. I probably would have reacted in a similar fashion if I were his age and I had been provoked. Nothing to do with anything other than immaturity on my part. You don't think about political symbolism in an atmosphere like that no matter how much you are told. It's about the athletic competition first and foremost and after that there might be a bit of room for tribalism.

To the OP, I totally understand but nobody understands until they have wisdom.

Good post. I did a load of really stupid things when I was young and daft that are easy for me to sit back and reflect on now with a wiser head on my shoulders.

I do think Leigh needs yet another quiet word in his ear to let him consider why it possibly wasn't the sharpest idea to tie the scarf to the post.

Overall though, given the abuse he was getting and that it wasn't the worst crime in the world, I can just about let him off with just being a daft laddy.

[SunshineOnLeith]

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I have seen people taken to court for an awful lot less facing a charge of a hate crime..

No you havent.

[IGRIGI]

Hate Crime 😂 Can't beat a bit of social media mock outrage!

[Is It On....]

What's a lesser greens scarf on a goalpost compared to Souness charging on to the pitch following a hostile (is there any other type) Istanbul derby and planting a giant flag of his team, Galatasaray, by the centre circle of their bitter opponents, Fenerbahce. Now that is truly incendiary!!

[blackpoolhibs]

Griffiths should be made an example of and sent out on loan to us to mend his ways. FFS what was he thinking of, people could have died.

[Bostonhibby]

Cannae be any worse than having a strangely dressed bloated halfwits intruding on your space and peace by marching up and down the street banging drums and blowing whistles.

[DH1875]

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Cannae be any worse than having a strangely dressed bloated halfwits intruding on your space and peace by marching up and down the street banging drums and blowing whistles.

Or sitting in a Newcastle top whilst Hibs play Sunderland at Easter Road.