Hearts' New Stand Thread (Merged)

**~~Peevemor~~** · 13-07-2017 11:35 AM

It should be remembered that when we built the end stands, they went well over budget because STF decided to splash the cash on the internal finishes (chandeliers, etc.).

There was no obligation for him to consult the fans, so he didn't.

***Keith_M*** · 13-07-2017 11:41 AM

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The rationale for the hospitality facing away from the ground comes about because its a one tier stand given the cramped confines of their *hithole. The offer of "skyline views like no other" is a compromise and its a botched one at that. Its like no other I suppose though.

I still don't understand what prevented them from having Eecutive Boxes (facing the pitch) at the back of the stand. This is quite common in a lot of stadia, even where the stand is single tier.

It doesn't exactly have to be much taller to fit them in either.

**mixumatosis** · 13-07-2017 11:57 AM

I see they have opened a PR agency where fans can get the latest on castle views, luxury toilets and super-sized chip kiosks:

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**scotia44** · 13-07-2017 12:06 PM

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So we're talking a view of the sky that the entire country gets free gratis and a chance to look at a few cracked chimney pots and TV aerials along with some old roof tiles?

Could maybe brighten things up a bit by sticking the coo on a roof? Another first for the famous.

Apparently she doesn't do ladders must be afraid o heights

**Smartie** · 13-07-2017 12:08 PM

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I see they have opened a PR agency where fans can get the latest on castle views, luxury toilets and super-sized chip kiosks:

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Do they write Cathro's Churchillian speeches too?

***lapsedhibee*** · 13-07-2017 12:09 PM

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Christ, the fact that Budge can justify a 17% increase in the building work costs and justify it with 'larger kiosks and toilets' and that mob just shrug it off and accept it is proper scary.

£2m straight into her brother's back pocket, which he'll give her back later. Simple fans won't mind.

**~~Fife-Hibee~~** · 13-07-2017 12:14 PM

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£2m straight into her brother's back pocket, which he'll give her back later. Simple fans won't mind.

The club that keeps on giving ! 😂😂😂

***Seveno*** · 13-07-2017 12:18 PM

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Surely the alarming thing (if you're a Jambo) about the new £2m overspend is that it is added to the shortfall they already had. Bearing in mind that they set out to raise £1m from supporter donations and that all the payback for Mrs B's loans has to come from supporter donations that's a lot of digging deep for our maroon mates. I know they're taking enormous pride in their efforts to rebuild their club (as well they should) but surely there should be some kind of agreement with the current owner as to how the money is spent. It certainly seems odd that Ann Budge can just rack up the bill by tweaking the plans when, ultimately, other folks are going to have to pay for it.

Also, while it's undoubtedly useful to have an increased capacity at the chip stalls, they're only open on matchdays. So you have an hour or so before the games and half time to sell stuff times 20 odd home games a season. That's a very limited time window for flogging stuff. They may succeed in simply shortening the queues rather than making more money. One can only hope.

We have yet to hear how much they will charge for the chips!

**mixumatosis** · 13-07-2017 12:22 PM

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Do they write Cathro's Churchillian speeches too?

If you take away the beaches, landing grounds, sea, fields and streets the Germans would have won you know.

**Geo_1875** · 13-07-2017 12:25 PM

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We have yet to hear how much they will charge for the chips!

Apparently £100 per annum to "earn" the right to pay £4 a pop every fortnight for a tray of microchips.

***Seveno*** · 13-07-2017 12:27 PM

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Apparently £100 per annum to "earn" the right to pay £4 a pop every fortnight for a tray of microchips.

Sounds cheap as .......

**~~Peevemor~~** · 13-07-2017 12:32 PM

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£2m straight into her brother's back pocket, which he'll give her back later. Simple fans won't mind.

What does her brother have to do with the new stand?

**HIBERNIAN-0762** · 13-07-2017 12:38 PM

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What does her brother have to do with the new stand?

He's building it! Hibs season ticket holder as well

**dchibs** · 13-07-2017 12:41 PM

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Loved this quote from brokeback on the change in potential views from their lounge:

The rationale for the hospitality facing away from the ground was that it would give a glorious panoramic view of Edinburgh. It would be helpful if the club could clarify that this consists of more than just a close-up of Tynecastle High school's roof.

Budge said they will have periscopes built into hospitality that go up through the roof and for a tenner a pop you get an amazing panoramic view.

**~~Peevemor~~** · 13-07-2017 12:43 PM

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Budge said they will have periscopes built into hospitality that go up through the roof and for a tenner a pop you get an amazing panoramic view.

Their new stand? Are you sure?

He fitted out the temporary changing rooms under the Wheatfield - are you maybe getting confused?

***Moulin Yarns*** · 13-07-2017 01:04 PM

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Budge said they will have periscopes built into hospitality that go up through the roof and for a tenner a pop you get an amazing panoramic view.

just not as good as the original

http://www.camera-obscura.co.uk/

***lapsedhibee*** · 13-07-2017 01:09 PM

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Their new stand? Are you sure?

He fitted out the temporary changing rooms under the Wheatfield - are you maybe getting confused?

The £2m's not going on toilets, though, is it?

***CropleyWasGod*** · 13-07-2017 01:11 PM

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The £2m's not going on toilets, though, is it?

Do Yams actually go on toilets?

**Ozyhibby** · 13-07-2017 01:18 PM

To announce a £2m cost over run so early into the build is impressive. There is lots of scope still for that to rise again.

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***Oscar T Grouch*** · 13-07-2017 01:23 PM

So most building projects have a contingency of around 10-15%, their overspend with 9 weeks construction to go it at 16.6%, although that does include design changes it seems a lot for a project of this size. Do we want to do a wee sweep on the final overspend figure? I'm gonna go for a nice round 25%

***GlesgaeHibby*** · 13-07-2017 01:39 PM

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So most building projects have a contingency of around 10-15%, their overspend with 9 weeks construction to go it at 16.6%, although that does include design changes it seems a lot for a project of this size. Do we want to do a wee sweep on the final overspend figure? I'm gonna go for a nice round 25%

Don't be daft, they've increased the budget rather than exceeding it

To be fair, ever since Cathro took charge they've been keen on moving the goalposts!

**~~connerg~~** · 13-07-2017 01:49 PM

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I see they have opened a PR agency where fans can get the latest on castle views, luxury toilets and super-sized chip kiosks:

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The neighbour next door in that photo must be a Hibby.

**~~Peevemor~~** · 13-07-2017 01:51 PM

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The £2m's not going on toilets, though, is it?

I've no idea but I don't really care either TBH.

The bottom line is that Budge is doing the right thing by building them their new stand. Yes there's FOH money in there (approved by the FOH board), together with all their other fund raising efforts, but Budge is, for the time being, paying the rest - probably around £8m from her pocket.

**itslegaltender** · 13-07-2017 01:55 PM

hoping some Hibee working on sight has placed suitable Hibee related objects in the ground and ready to show them once its completed.

**Alan62** · 13-07-2017 01:56 PM

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I've no idea but I don't really care either TBH.

The bottom line is that Budge is doing the right thing by building them their new stand. Yes there's FOH money in there (approved by the FOH board), together with all their other fund raising efforts, but Budge is, for the time being, paying the rest - probably around £8m from her pocket.

When you say 'paying the rest', surely you mean 'lending the rest'?

**~~Peevemor~~** · 13-07-2017 01:57 PM

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When you say 'paying the rest', surely you mean 'lending the rest'?

OK - lending the rest to her own company.

***greenginger*** · 13-07-2017 01:59 PM

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So most building projects have a contingency of around 10-15%, their overspend with 9 weeks construction to go it at 16.6%, although that does include design changes it seems a lot for a project of this size. Do we want to do a wee sweep on the final overspend figure? I'm gonna go for a nice round 25%

I think we know some of the overspend items already.

They originally planned to use the foundations of the old stand to build the front part of the new stand. The structural engineers said , no way, not if you want us to sign for structural integretry of the stand. Old founds. had to be dug out and new reinforced concrete foundations installed. Rather difficult as the back of the stand blocked access.

The extra safety work to the Distillery storage tanks is a big one. Originally they hoped they would get away with a few splash guards on the top of the old containment wall but the Health and Safety Exec. had other ideas. The finalised plans show new reinforced concrete L-shaped panels fixed to new massive reinforced concrete foundations along the full 100 metre length of the old 4 metre high wall.

I would guess all this is being paid for out of their season ticket money and they hope the direct debits will keep flowing and keep the Tynie lights on and the wage bills met.