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    Quote Originally Posted by Kato View Post
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    Ha. aye good yin. The planning stage was consumed by fitting as many seats in as inhumanly possible. An extra exit would cut that even more. Ordinary things like safety and convenience never occurred to them. The hornies are totally correct in pointing out that aspect. A visiting clubs officials and non-playing staff have to sit in there cheek by jowl with a crowd that often bay for blood at the slightest hint, or imagined hint, of grievance against their cheaty little team. Our manager has already been physically assaulted in that ground - how any Hearts fan can ignore the issue is beyond me. Saying that it's their own staff and officials that'll be bearing the brunt o any abuse for a good while yet. Ann will be cursing missing out on her own, dedicated vomitorium.

    They had to make certain compromises to make sure Tiny Park had more seats than Easter Road.

    I'm sure all the Yams agree that the wee added inconvenience is worth it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hibbyfraelibby View Post
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    Peter and Roughie about to get tucked in to Certificategate...
    Recorded it and just watching it now, Didn't realise Peter Houston is working for Hearts now, Watches the players who are out on loan and writes up reports for levein

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    Everybody that gets a ticket for the 27th should turn up in hard hats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Fleece View Post
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    We have been through this before. There were two statements from Partick thistle. First on the Saturday morning the second on Sunday morning. Both raised the issue of lack of information and SPFL decision.

    They did not wait until after the match.
    Well they left it late then and it was given short shrift That was jist of of my point


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    Quote Originally Posted by Peevemor View Post
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    The drawings submitted are nothing like what's been built so amendments would have been submitted at a late stage. They seemed to be making it up as they went along - Budge-up herself admitted during the work that they didn't know exactly how many seats they'd be able to install.

    The Clydesdale fellie wants shot. It's incredible the number of design errors he's made in what is a fairly simple building (it's not as if there aren't enough examples to copy).
    I've no doubt they made it up as they went along - their big, plastic-coo was getting emptied daily and depending on how much was in it, it dictated if work was continuing the following day or not !. On such a basis, amendments were inevitable as, no matter what was in the building-plans, they would be impossible/scrapped if the coo was short !

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    The seats with the white bits is the press area. The directors sit in the main section behind that. I think the problem was that fans in the sections to either side were held back to let the directors out. The other thing being that Levein would have had to sit there when sent to the stand. Imagine Lennon sitting there!!

    Feel a bit dirty posting this...Attachment 19892
    Their Directors and Visiting "dignatories" seating is a disaster waiting to happen. Only a matter of time before a visiting unstrippped player or director gets decked by a mutant.

    I can see them having to rethink and move it to the area where the press seats are and moving the press all the way up to the back of the stand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenginger View Post
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    Do have my doubts about the letter, but there is a Bob ( Robert ) Park on the force.


    http://www.glasgow.gov.uk/Councillor...2AFQUT0G2UDXZL


    Can't find any links to a John McNeil at the Council.
    There is a John McNeil at Edinburgh council, he's from Musselburgh and a big yam!

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    The press area looks ridiculous and clearly should have been right at the back with the directors just in front.
    They could have saved themselves a lot of bother by simply looking at how we did it

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    The problem is that the directors don't have a dedicated access (vomitorium) to their seats. The only solution I can see is to stick them right up at the back so they can go directly to the doors that lead (via stairs) to the schoolview suite.

    Our directors have their own access - you can see the 'extra' vomitorium.

    Well, one is a Main Stand and the other one is a product of delusional thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 17SquirrelPower View Post
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    Well, one is a Main Stand and the other one is a product of delusional thinking.
    The lights were on and an outstanding view of the whole pitch tonight from the corporate facilities at the AGM tonight. The place looked fantastic. I notice we are now using those natural light racks that benefit the grass in the winter.

    I'm sure they must have a similar view at tiny????

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    Surely they must known this in the planning stages?
    Unfortunately the fag packet was chucked into the recycling. The napkin went through the wash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Unrelated incidents? I refer to the comments reported by a gorgie mob representative. hoe the hell are they unrelated in any way? it's ALL about safety ya tit. they have been given the green light, nae pun, by a cack handed council run by a bunch of idiots. the place is not fit for purpose eg:- safe envirnonment for all that attend a football match in a supposed modern stadium with upwards of 15k people attending those matches. they have had a week by week safety certificate (if actually issued, or signed off) which seems to fly in the face of normal ity in this particular region. they're at it, and so are their council cronies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacomo View Post
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    The police are covering themselves here.

    If, God forbid, there is a serious incident at Tiny Park and any of the issues raised in the letter are seen as contributing factors, individuals at the Council could face criminal prosecution.
    they may be indeed covering themselves, but if you were in their position......../ the Police Scotland are in turmoil, with the latest revelations of top brass problems but at least the divisional mob have taken a grip of this situation and pointed out that they wont sit blindly by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey View Post
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    And people were asking for this thread to be closed as there's nothing to see
    how observant Mikey

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peevemor View Post
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    The problem is that the directors don't have a dedicated access (vomitorium) to their seats. The only solution I can see is to stick them right up at the back so they can go directly to the doors that lead (via stairs) to the schoolview suite.

    Our directors have their own access - you can see the 'extra' vomitorium.

    The directors hospitality area and press room lead directly to the extra exit ..... Its incredible that Hearts haven't included similar in their new stand, its not a case of catering to the posh folk and press so much as accepting the fact that from time to time directors and staff of not just the away team but the home team as well get abuse and the last thing you want is them having to mix with the abusers. I'm sure Rod Petrie has been grateful for that exit from time to time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peevemor View Post
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    The problem is that the directors don't have a dedicated access (vomitorium) to their seats. The only solution I can see is to stick them right up at the back so they can go directly to the doors that lead (via stairs) to the schoolview suite.

    Our directors have their own access - you can see the 'extra' vomitorium.

    Ahh. Looking at that is a welcome interlude.

    Here we have a perfectly constructed, well designed stand within a ground that has more than enough internal and external space. No begging or cash cows involved either.


    Anyway, back to the big ground. There are still some prefabs in Moredun standing so you never know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monktonharp View Post
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    Unrelated incidents? I refer to the comments reported by a gorgie mob representative. hoe the hell are they unrelated in any way? it's ALL about safety ya tit. they have been given the green light, nae pun, by a cack handed council run by a bunch of idiots. the place is not fit for purpose eg:- safe envirnonment for all that attend a football match in a supposed modern stadium with upwards of 15k people attending those matches. they have had a week by week safety certificate (if actually issued, or signed off) which seems to fly in the face of normal ity in this particular region. they're at it, and so are their council cronies.
    Or this bit -

    'Following a satisfactory outcome to a meeting held today at the stadium, attended by all parties, the club is looking forward to welcoming Motherwell Football Club to Tynecaastle Park this Saturday'

    No mention whatsoever of the concerns raised by the Police being addressed or even considered - just keeping up with their 'Big bros' over in Govan by arrogantly dismissing any of the problems mentioned in the letter !!


    Guaranteed there'll be a full, back-page article by 'All-is' tomorrow and everything will be tickety-boo !!

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    Changing the word ‘safety’ to ‘security’ is telling. That statement is a disgrace.

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    Their over use of the words "Tynecastle Park" is nauseating.

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    The bit in the letter about fans standing in the front section is interesting. People in the front section have stood throughout the match whenever I have been in their wretched wee hovel. It’s going to be interesting to see what is done about this. The twirling hoard will not be happy. Good luck to the stewards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brunswickbill View Post
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    The bit in the letter about fans standing in the front section is interesting. People in the front section have stood throughout the match whenever I have been in their wretched wee hovel. It’s going to be interesting to see what is done about this. The twirling hoard will not be happy. Good luck to the stewards.
    Is it not more to do with the design of the stand and the disabled support being behind them? In the old stand that section didnt need to worry about people behind them, now they do.

    I love how they are getting their knickers in a twist over it and the whataboutry when Hibs or Celtic stand the full match.

    Im sure they all stand at E.R as well, and when a whole stand IS standing then the police are pretty powerless, and the away fans wont be obscuring anyones view when they are all at it.

    You can just see it now though, a wee section will stand. PC plod will tell them to sit to which they will reject and point to the away fans doing it. Resulting in their removal from the stadium should they continue to ignore it and all hell breaking loose in their wee section of fannies.
    Its not difficult to be concious of your fellow supporters behind you, especially the disabled ones.

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    Are these safety concerns paving the way for a return to Murrayfield, for the Celtic and Hibs games, to allow them to rectify them.
    Also guaranteeing them a much larger crowd as well.

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    Are these safety concerns paving the way for a return to Murrayfield, for the Celtic and Hibs games, to allow them to rectify them.
    Also guaranteeing them a much larger crowd as well.
    Always thought with this kind of situation, surely the away team has a bit of leeway to negotiate.

    Scenario being, home team are approaching you to say they have fouled up, got a problem of their own making, and looking for ways out of a hole, by requesting the match be moved.

    Surely the away team in these circumstances can reasonably say ok, Hearts can keep the ticket money up to 19,200 tickets (including season ticket holders) as that's all they could have shifted had the game been at Tynecastle.
    But after that, it's a 50/50 split of all ticket money for tickets sold beyond 19,200 (with Season Books included in the 19,200) plus a cut of hospitality revenue (on the basis there wouldn't have been any worth mentioning at Tynecastle, whereas Murrayfield offers more scope)?

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    I'd be amazed if Police Scotland allowed a derby to be played at Murrayfield on the 27th bearing in mind its a night game during the holiday season.

    It would be an operational nightmare considering its never happened before and the Crowd could feasible be anything between 30-40,000.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy.1875 View Post
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    Are these safety concerns paving the way for a return to Murrayfield, for the Celtic and Hibs games, to allow them to rectify them.
    Also guaranteeing them a much larger crowd as well.

    The embarrassment of having to abandon Tiny Park again would surely be too much, even for them.

    All I can see them doing is hiring a load more stewards and security to try and address the issues raised by the polis.

    Or pull a few more all nighters to try and fix the stand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Springbank View Post
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    Always thought with this kind of situation, surely the away team has a bit of leeway to negotiate.

    Scenario being, home team are approaching you to say they have fouled up, got a problem of their own making, and looking for ways out of a hole, by requesting the match be moved.

    Surely the away team in these circumstances can reasonably say ok, Hearts can keep the ticket money up to 19,200 tickets (including season ticket holders) as that's all they could have shifted had the game been at Tynecastle.
    But after that, it's a 50/50 split of all ticket money for tickets sold beyond 19,200 (with Season Books included in the 19,200)
    plus a cut of hospitality revenue (on the basis there wouldn't have been any worth mentioning at Tynecastle, whereas Murrayfield offers more scope)?
    Whilst I think this is a good idea, it would be quite nice to hear Hibs tell them to "Ram their 19,200".

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    All these hearts plums delighted that Dundee’s stand is shut tonight. Comparing their new mega stand to a 50+ year stand. Mugs

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    All these hearts plums delighted that Dundee’s stand is shut tonight. Comparing their new mega stand to a 50+ year stand. Mugs
    Dundee's stand is open just under occupied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibbyfraelibby View Post
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    Dundee's stand is open just under occupied.
    No, it is shut due to a broken pipe apparently according to BT Sport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by overdrive View Post
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    No, it is shut due to a broken pipe apparently according to BT Sport.
    Perhaps Hearts could take a leaf out of the Dundee book and play in front of three stands.

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