10 years ago, when I was a 14 year old lad I would play in every golf competition that I could. On a Friday afternoon after school I would have the choice of whether to play the junior medal at Dundas or Linlithgow, and you could guarantee there would be at least 15 playing in each, often much more than this at Linlithgow. Linlithgow would have a dozen youngsters with single figure handicaps and the competition was quite good.
Nowadays, with my brother who is turning 14, it seems like the juniors of today are in hiding. He has the same choice of Dundas or Linlithgow, but there will be a maximum of 2 or 3 playing in each competition, and there's even been times when nobody else has turned up. Between the 2 courses I think there is only 1 player who is off a single handicap.
I thought this was just a coincidence, however he has his name in for a competition up in Nairn this weekend as my dad is away up there with him. And having just checked who he will be playing with, he's the only one with his name in for it!
Where are the young golfers of today? There is no doubt there is some brilliant young golfers about, but it seems there is a lot less kids getting involved in competitive golf at a club level. I wondered whether he was just unlucky in his clubs or whether this is seen elsewhere. How are the junior sections looking at everyone else courses out of interest?
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Thread: The young golfers of today
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09-06-2017 12:16 PM #1
The young golfers of today
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09-06-2017 02:14 PM #2
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Golf is too expensive for many youngsters.
In addition the speed of it doesn't tie in with the instant gratification many want and as such, younger people don't watch as much of it on tv and aren't inspired enough to take it up.
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09-06-2017 06:38 PM #3
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Looking at the World Rankings, Scotland are performing poorly.
Our highest ranking player is Russell Know at 38. Then it's
115 Martin Laird
263 Scott Jamieson
296 Paul Lawrie
303 Ritchie Ramsay
309 Stephen Gallacher
356 Marc Warren
359 David Drysdale
392 Duncan Stewart
416 Jimmy Gunn
451 Craig Lee
Scotland, the home of golf 11 players in the top 500 and only one in the top 50.
England have 7 players in the top 50 and 12 in the top 100.
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10-06-2017 04:23 AM #4This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Golf takes time to learn and a lot of boring practice to get good at which isn't something that's particularly appealing nowadays what with all the other things they can be doing.
I remember when I was young I used to regularly walk from Slateford/Craiglockhart to the braids with a set of clubs on my back, play a round for three hours then walk back. I'm not sure that's something anyone would do nowadays as there are far more options.
The reason I disagree with the cost aspect is that clubs are even cheaper now than they were back when I was younger. I used to play with a set of second hand cut downs but nowadays you can go to sports direct and get a full set for cheaper than one of these phones every kid seems to have now.
Saying all this there is a bit of a drive on now with youngsters in Fife where I live. Easing them into it might not get them hooked immediately but it might leave the door open for them when they grow up.
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10-06-2017 08:22 AM #5
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The point earlier about the media exposure of golf I think is a very good one. I don't think there's any golf on council telly. Golf sold out to satellite and the kids don't get to see heroes like Lee Trevino or Seve Ballesteros.
I enjoy playing on my tablet these days. I suspect any interested kids will be playing cyber golf rather than wet and windy golf.Space to let
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10-06-2017 10:26 AM #7
I'm not sure how much the cost of it is related to the huge drop in numbers in just the last decade. The cost of playing at the clubs I mentioned has not risen at all, and at the end of the day it's the parents who will be coughing up the money for memberships and clubs.
I think the point of games consoles grasping kids attention more than sport is a more likely reason. Kids don't know what they're missing these days; I think getting out on bikes and climbing trees is a thing of the past. 👀
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10-06-2017 10:31 AM #8
As a junior I always felt like an unwanted guest as opposed to a paying member due to the way a lot of the adult members acted, particularly the seniors. I'm not sure that's appealing to youngsters.
There's probably a lot of truth in the instant gratification aspect as well.PM Awards General Poster of The Year 2015, 2016, 2017. Probably robbed in other years
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15-06-2017 06:11 PM #9
Apart from cycling, the apparent lack of interest in pursuing sporting activities by todays youngsters is of great concern. Golf is not the only sport which is suffering at present.
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When I was a junior you had to be good to get a game. Now clubs would happily grab people off the street to make up the numbers.
And to be honest that applies at a junior, adult and senior level.
My take on it is that working patterns are very different to 20, 30, 40 years ago so people can't commit to those sports in the way they did in the past. When it's part of a parent's lifestyle you'll naturally bring more kids in.
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16-06-2017 12:19 PM #11
Id echo a few of the points.
Playing with cheap clubs is a no no, even why I was growing up up was all nike and titliest etc so there is an expense there.
I also used to walk about 5 or 6 miles to play, sometimes on my own, then walk home. I HATED being stuck in the house so there is also that trend of computers to compete with now as well. Lack of decent gold games for computers may also hinder youngsters taking it up.
GOlf is a frustrating sport and I can see how the having to put effort in putting a lot of kids off these days (unfortunatly)
The cost of a round is pretty expensive as well, for me to play local (craigentinny) they are wanting 25quid. Its not that great a course and never worth the same as what I could pay for a round at ratho/pumpherston/uphall etc.
I really want to get my son into golf (he is 5) so was thinking of just getting a small club for him and taking him to the driving range to just hit balls and hope he enjoys it enough to continue. I also looked at lessons for him, but most places I looked were from around 8 or 9 years old on wards.
I also had the feeling as a youth that we were just getting in the way of the adults, hated us being in the club house etc. I guess attitudes will change hopefully, but maybe there is a market for a junior course only with some club pros/ex club pros to provide some help and to work on their techniques etc
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09-12-2017 12:17 PM #12
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We've got only one golfer through to the final two rounds - Robert McIntyre currently in 51st position at -1.
England have 16 golfers through to the final day, 14 of which are in the top 40.
England had 21 players who missed the cut, whilst Scotland had seven.
The decline of Scottish Golf continues!!
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09-12-2017 04:12 PM #13
I had an interesting conversation recently with the pro at Brechin Golf Club, nice course by the way,
He says that in their case they are a bit remote from the town centre so getting juniors out there is the first problem. He said that the instant gratification of video games was killing any chance they had of attracting youngsters to take up the game. They had tried everything even offering free memberships for juniors to no avail. They also have footgolf but it hadn’t helped to boost any interest.
His own opinion was that Golf in general had to have a rethink. He felt that to encourage youngsters back into the game was to change the format, as other have said, kids aren’t interested in 4 hour rounds, so short course games 6 hole format.
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12-12-2017 11:27 AM #14
My own Club is investing a lot of time and resources into the Club Golf program. It seems to be popular enough with the younger kids so hopefully in time these same kids will progress into the competitive side of Junior Golf then ultimately become full members.
I really hope that "Club Golf" is the correct route to be going down, it certainly introduces youngsters to the game at a very early stage but whether that interest can be maintained over the years remains to be seen.
Its also an alarming trend that so many golfers now choose to participate on a "pay as you play" basis rather than taking out a Club membership.
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12-12-2017 02:34 PM #15
I went over to Houston a couple of years ago to look after my nephews.
At the time they were 6 and 8 and we did various things to keep them entertained whilst their parents (my partner's brother and wife) went away for the weekend.
They are very lucky in that they are members of a local country club that has a golf course, driving range, tennis courts, swimming pool, gym etc.
I took them to the driving range once and out for 9 holes of golf once, and they loved it. They have a genuine interest in the sport, and a colossal chunk of sibling rivalry which means they can while away hours just trying to get the better of one another.
The great weather and good surroundings certainly helped, but I couldn't believe how focussed and into it that the 2 wee boys were. Obviously at that age they wouldn't have done 18 holes, but were perfectly happy for 9. It wasn't even that special a treat for them - they go out with their Dad all the time.
I don't know what the answer is here. I suspect that golf in Scotland will change quite a lot over the years and that a lot of courses will disappear. Kids aren't getting into it and young adults are being priced out of it. As the baby boomers die off along with their expensive memberships, I think we'll see a lot of clubs in even bigger trouble than they are now, which is a shame as golf is a great game.
Ski-ing is apparently facing a similar crisis over the next few decades as the people who are interested and can afford to do it lose the physical capability to do so.
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One of my local clubs has over 40 kids every week turn up for tuition by a mix of dads, grandads and pros. They do a fantastic job.
How many of them are actually members of the golf club - probably 10.
How many turn up to play in junior competitions - probably 3 or 4.
The kids are happy to attend Club Golf with their friends. Unfortunately they are not happy to put the time and effort into trying to perfect the game and be really good at it.
Yes there will be the odd one or two who are pushed by pushy parents. But there's very few who have that desire themselves. Golf is a solitary sport, one the kids of today are not embracing.
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4 Austrailians
1 Austrians
1 Belgium
1 Canada
1 China
7 English - Hatton who is 2nd, Fisher who is 14th.
4 Spanish - two in 2nd along with Hatton
1 India - Sharma who is leading the tournament
1 Irish
1 Italian
3 Japan
1 Malaysia
1 Holland
6 South Africa
1 Sweden - Noren, Stenson declined his invitation
1 Thailand
1 Columbia
27 USA
But not one Scottish player - is that no embarrassing for the Home of Golf
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