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Thread: The Celtc problem
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19-05-2017 02:55 PM #61
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19-05-2017 02:57 PM #62This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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19-05-2017 03:02 PM #63
Whoever accumulates the most points over the league season should always be the Champions.
A play off would be farcical , can you imagine a team won the league by 20-30 points and then lost out in the playoff final to a dodgy last minute decision?
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19-05-2017 03:10 PM #64
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Prize money rewards teams based on merit. What we need is to get someone in charge at SPFL who can get a decent TV deal.
Imo I have seen as many gash matches from England as Scotland on Sky and BT, so we should spend a bit more time talking up our football rather than doing it down.
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19-05-2017 03:21 PM #65This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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19-05-2017 03:23 PM #66
Until we only play each other twice no one will get near them. You have a chance of beating them maybe once. If thats the case its how you do against the rest that will define your season. Currently the chances are they beat you the other three times. Youre 6 points behind before facing anyone else. When Rangers get their act together they might get closer but we are all just making up the numbers as we have done for donkeys. Its a case of by how many for them rather than if.
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19-05-2017 03:45 PM #67
There's only one future for Scottish football - kill the cancer.
Bye bye OF to anywhere at all and have a Scottish League and cup and euro qualification that any of 6-8 teams could claim every season.
Punters would watch, therefore TV would cover, therefore sponsors would support.
There's no other way.
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19-05-2017 05:44 PM #68
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19-05-2017 06:23 PM #69
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Only problem is if Scottish Football received a £100 million pay day from SKY the SFA and SPFL would make sure most of the money made its way to the big two from Glasgow?
Last time it was Setanta money and it tore Scottish Football apart and that rift is still felt today!!!
Fixing Scottish Football is a Glasgow thing, they've been doing it for YEARS!!!!!!!
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19-05-2017 06:40 PM #70This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I mentioned this on another thread last week, but one of the biggest problems with celtic is them hoovering up every bit of talent from other clubs in this country. They poach any talent but still bleat on about how theres lack of competition for them in this country. Riordan being the biggest example of ruined talent at celtic. Scott Allan another one, who i'm still convinced celtic only bought to get it right up the huns. I pray Cummings or McGinn don't end up there, far too much talent to be wasted warming the bench at celtic. As good a player as they both are, they aren't good enough for starting 11 at celtic IMO. Maybe in time but not now.
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19-05-2017 07:13 PM #71This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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19-05-2017 09:10 PM #72
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Franchise the Scottish game, pool the gate money, strips and TV money. I think the American NFL model would be good with the bottom teams getting the pick of the best talent
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19-05-2017 09:12 PM #73This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteSCOTTISH CUP WINNERS 2016
GGTTH
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19-05-2017 09:58 PM #74
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I think that, once they've done 10 in a row, which seems likely, Celtic's support will get bored if Rangers fail to become a threat, as their fates drop they might 'drift' back towards the pack.
Alternatively, Leicester won the EPL. A team other than Celtic winning the SPL is not impossible by any means. Particularly if they inadvertently have another Delia esque manager next.
As for the league is a whole, down south, for all its publicity, everyone from Everton down aren't exactly miles apart. We aren't the only league with a dominant team / a couple teams well clear of the rest. It's not an issue for me, I don't really care who wins the league, unless it's us!
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19-05-2017 10:16 PM #75This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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20-05-2017 12:07 AM #76This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteKicking it in Wellington .
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20-05-2017 12:18 AM #77This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Rangers are miles behind Celtic in financial terms and short of adopting a 'money no object' approach will come nowhere near Celtic. And they will not be allowed to spend big as no-one will lend them cash and it isn't going to come from the Lying King.
Rangers have enough trouble beating Aberdeen as things stand and but for incompetence by Cathro might have struggled to finish ahead of Hearts.
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20-05-2017 08:44 AM #78
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No, they didn't, but they've upset quite a lot of people in England over the years with their songs praising the virtues of the IRA.
I think a lot of English people are quite shocked when they find out the true nature of much of the Celtc support.
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20-05-2017 10:36 AM #80
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20-05-2017 11:19 AM #81
These posts appear quite regularly on this forum and my view still stays the same.
England don't need any Scottish teams and won't want it - would mean other teams get less money and would also mean Celtic having to start at the bottom of the English pyramid. Teams like Leeds and Sheffield have been trying for years to get back into the top league - they would never allow it.
Here is the problem - greed and not seeing the bigger picture in Scotland.
Celtic and Sevco are a victim of their own success. They do need competition and each other to generate interest and give the league and games a meaning. You can see the Celtic fans buzzing this season after hammering the Huns so many times this season to win the league.
What needs to happen starts from the people running the game in this county.
Less old firm bias.
16 team league
Play each team x2 a season. - home and away - stadiums would sell out more often.
TV money and voting rights need to be fairer
National stadium - get away from the Celtic and Sevco end nonsense and build a decent stadium to host finals - like Cardiff.
Things like salary caps / split gate receipts are never going to happen.
Rodgers is comfortable here - wins league - gets praise - gets champions league etc - but the key for me is how he performs in the champions league as go out in qualifiers or fail in group stage / Europa league and are they really improving ?
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20-05-2017 11:46 AM #82
I don't see how a sixteen team league would improve matters.
Clubs will have four fewer home games, which means less income. For Hibs, that is compounded by replacing full houses against Hearts, Celtc and Sevco with a few hundred fans from Hamilton, Ross County or Morton. The TV money will also be less as there will be four fewer rounds of fixtures and far fewer attractive games to show (the TV companies prefer Old Firm matches and Edinburgh derbies to Celtc vs Dundee or Hibs vs Partick). All that adds up to a substantial cut in income which will reduce the ability of Scottish clubs to compete with England (Championship/League One) for players so our best youngsters will leave even sooner to stagnate on benches down South rather than be paid less to play in meaningless mid-table games in March.
Some of those problems could be eased with an 18 or even 20 team league to provide more fixtures but I don't believe that would make it more competitive. The best chance for anyone to compete with Celtc is to have a good side that takes six to nine points from them, which gives some leeway for the inevitable slips against weaker teams as Hibs are far more likely to drop points against Morton or Dunfermline that Celtc are. Ideally we'd have four or five teams who are all competitive with each other at the top of the table, which would prevent any one team sustaining any period of dominance.
On that basis I was in favour of the rejected proposal for two leagues of twelve splitting into three leagues of eight, so that the teams you played four times were teams at your own level and the games would all mean something. It would also have made for a more fluid promotion/relegation area which would be better than the current cliff edge and rigged play offs. I don't deny that there were flaws, but any league structure does.Mature, sensible signature required for responsible position. Good prospects for the right candidate. Apply within.
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20-05-2017 01:10 PM #83This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Likewise why should Celtic, who have finished top at a canter and are unbeaten domestically, deserve to potentially lose it in such a way? And why on earth would they agree to it?
If Hibs had a fluke season, 'done a Leicester' and won the league we'd be spewing if we had to play a second place team and lost it all.
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20-05-2017 01:24 PM #84
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How anyone came up with the nonsense that a team who finishes second, can lose to a team who are fourth, and lose out. Doesn't make the slightest bit of sense to me
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Over there it's the league they are selling first and foremost and the interest they generate in that is by making the competition close every year. They have salary caps, drafts and sanctions for teams who consistently under perform.
It's not perfect but it is a well marketed product.
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20-05-2017 09:14 PM #86
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