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    There's a lot more issues to be getting worked up about than her wearing a football top but I wish she put as much thought and energy into trying to stop the HMRC jobs leaving Livingston
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    Very rarely read links posted by our resident SNP staffer. TBF at least it's not Wings he using this time
    So your statement about her not putting as much energy into trying to stop the HMRC jobs leaving Livingston is bull then. She's out their doing her job, unlike some.

    Findlay's little helper is showing his true SNP bashing colours again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ronaldo7 View Post
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    So your statement about her not putting as much energy into trying to stop the HMRC jobs leaving Livingston is bull then. She's out their doing her job, unlike some.

    Findlay's little helper is showing his true SNP bashing colours again.
    Findlay's little helper made me smile, I might even mention it to him next time I see him. As Hannah the invisible can't think of any time she's actually managed to save jobs in West Lothian but hey ho at least she wore a Scotland top and does some keepy uppies. TBF to you that's the closest you've came to commenting on football on this form.

    Always happy to bash the SNP when they are not doing the day job

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucky View Post
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    Findlay's little helper made me smile, I might even mention it to him next time I see him. As Hannah the invisible can't think of any time she's actually managed to save jobs in West Lothian but hey ho at least she wore a Scotland top and does some keepy uppies. TBF to you that's the closest you've came to commenting on football on this form.

    Always happy to bash the SNP when they are not doing the day job
    I see the work of Alan Roden is paying off with the Left of the party now.

    His communication is as good as your comments on fitba

    Here, take a wee trip down and see her yerself instead of whining on here.

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    fraud case against Michelle Thomson has been dropped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacoluna View Post
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    fraud case against Michelle Thomson has been dropped.


    The Crown Office has now concluded that there should be "no criminal proceedings at this time".
    It said this was due to an "absence of sufficient credible and reliable evidence", with the decision coming after "careful consideration of the facts and circumstances of the case".
    Mrs Thomson had always strongly denied any wrongdoing.

    I wonder how the Sunday Mail et al will spin this.

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    The Crown Office has now concluded that there should be "no criminal proceedings at this time".
    It said this was due to an "absence of sufficient credible and reliable evidence", with the decision coming after "careful consideration of the facts and circumstances of the case".
    Mrs Thomson had always strongly denied any wrongdoing.

    I wonder how the Sunday Mail et al will spin this.

    Just for (Un)Lucky https://wingsoverscotland.com/choco-ration-soars-again/
    I've replied on the Thomson thread, I don't believe what she and her business did was illegal, but surely there are morality questions and if so was she a candidate you want your party to stand by?
    Her business bought properties under stress sales and paid less than market value then immediately resold at a higher rate with the required finance in place. Buy at 64K, sell at 95K on the same day and pocket the difference. Buy at 245K and sell at 315K the same day? Astute business acumen or somebody taking advantage?

    Her legal partner was struck off because of irregularities re the finance deals which were nothing if not fraud.

    She has claimed to know nothing about this, possible, but my sceptical mind thinks she knew but distanced herself once her political career took off as data would suggest.

    If this had been Joe Bloggs it wouldn't have made the tabloids, but a complaint had been made by one of the vendors and the media took a bite. I'd also suggest this behaviour is more akin to another party but because she 'was' SNP it would seem that that the average person can't bring themselves to point the finger. Had this been a Tory we'd be baying for blood!

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedy_gonzales View Post
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    I've replied on the Thomson thread, I don't believe what she and her business did was illegal, but surely there are morality questions and if so was she a candidate you want your party to stand by?
    Her business bought properties under stress sales and paid less than market value then immediately resold at a higher rate with the required finance in place. Buy at 64K, sell at 95K on the same day and pocket the difference. Buy at 245K and sell at 315K the same day? Astute business acumen or somebody taking advantage?

    Her legal partner was struck off because of irregularities re the finance deals which were nothing if not fraud.

    She has claimed to know nothing about this, possible, but my sceptical mind thinks she knew but distanced herself once her political career took off as data would suggest.

    If this had been Joe Bloggs it wouldn't have made the tabloids, but a complaint had been made by one of the vendors and the media took a bite. I'd also suggest this behaviour is more akin to another party but because she 'was' SNP it would seem that that the average person can't bring themselves to point the finger. Had this been a Tory we'd be baying for blood!

    Seen it mate.

    I think the SNP did the right thing when the story broke, she removed the whip herself, and was therefor not eligible to stand as an SNP MP, unlike some other parties. The media went for her big time, and if their was anything illegal going on, they'd have found it.

    Fortunately, the law in Scotland, you can't be found guilty by extension of someone else's guilt, when you yourself have done nothing wrong.

    The morality of it all is a different matter.
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...iness-40947422

    Scotland's employment rate hit a record high in the three months to June, according to official figures.
    The number of people in work in Scotland reached 2,650,000, or 75.2%, a rise of 1.1 percentage points over the quarter.
    Meanwhile, Scottish unemployment fell by 12,000 to stand at 107,000.


    thankfully we have a very competent SNP in charge of running this country the tories and corbyns scottish branch party would reverse those good trends...FACT

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    It's all up in the air innit?

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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...iness-40947422

    Scotland's employment rate hit a record high in the three months to June, according to official figures.
    The number of people in work in Scotland reached 2,650,000, or 75.2%, a rise of 1.1 percentage points over the quarter.
    Meanwhile, Scottish unemployment fell by 12,000 to stand at 107,000.


    thankfully we have a very competent SNP in charge of running this country the tories and corbyns scottish branch party would reverse those good trends...FACT
    However, the way the media are twisting it, you'd get the impression that it's our employment rate going down and the rest of the UKs employment rate going up. They're great when it comes to wording things in ways that give the opposition impression.

    Infuriating when people attack this Scottish Government based on headlines, rather than actually looking at the cold hard statistics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by High-On-Hibs View Post
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    However, the way the media are twisting it, you'd get the impression that it's our employment rate going down and the rest of the UKs employment rate going up. They're great when it comes to wording things in ways that give the opposition impression.

    Infuriating when people attack this Scottish Government based on headlines, rather than actually looking at the cold hard statistics.
    That particular headline says...."Scotland's employment rate hits record high".

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    That particular headline says...."Scotland's employment rate hits record high".
    Yet, the STV one is - "Scots unemployment rate rises despite UK-wide fall"

    https://stv.tv/news/politics/1395775...-uk-wide-fall/

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    Quote Originally Posted by High-On-Hibs View Post
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    Yet, the STV one is - "Scots unemployment rate rises despite UK-wide fall"

    https://stv.tv/news/politics/1395775...-uk-wide-fall/
    I guess you're going to have to believe the BBC then

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    I guess you're going to have to believe the BBC then
    Nah, id rather ignore both and just look at the raw data, as everybody else should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by High-On-Hibs View Post
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    However, the way the media are twisting it, you'd get the impression that it's our employment rate going down and the rest of the UKs employment rate going up. They're great when it comes to wording things in ways that give the opposition impression.

    Infuriating when people attack this Scottish Government based on headlines, rather than actually looking at the cold hard statistics.
    I don't know which article you're reading that suggests facts have been twisted.
    Both articles say unemployment in Scotland has risen by 3000 when compared to the the three month period March-May, when compared to January-March unemployment falls by 12000.
    At the end of the day, data is data, how you interpret it or what you compare it against is where the story is.
    Personally I'd prefer a 12 month comparison as this would iron out any seasonal discrepancies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875 View Post
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...iness-40947422

    Scotland's employment rate hit a record high in the three months to June, according to official figures.
    The number of people in work in Scotland reached 2,650,000, or 75.2%, a rise of 1.1 percentage points over the quarter.
    Meanwhile, Scottish unemployment fell by 12,000 to stand at 107,000.


    thankfully we have a very competent SNP in charge of running this country the tories and corbyns scottish branch party would reverse those good trends...FACT
    Every little helps. https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news...montrose-site/

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronaldo7 View Post
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    Is there a typo in that article, 15 new jobs following a 44M investment???

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedy_gonzales View Post
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    Is there a typo in that article, 15 new jobs following a 44M investment???

    No. Hence my "Every little helps" comment

    It's the improvements to the facility which is costing the cash, but it will keep the 450+ jobs in the area.

    https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news...ng-jobs-boost/

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronaldo7 View Post
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    No. Hence my "Every little helps" comment

    It's the improvements to the facility which is costing the cash, but it will keep the 450+ jobs in the area.

    https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news...ng-jobs-boost/
    According to the articles you have linked to this company investment is due to their confidence in the UK Governments post Brexit industrial strategy. Well done to Nicola and the SNP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by speedy_gonzales View Post
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    Is there a typo in that article, 15 new jobs following a 44M investment???
    Given the size of the investment, I'm guessing that the facility is highly-automated. Hence labour costs (which are the single-biggest overhead in any project) will have been kept to a minimum. That sounds like sensible planning to me.

    The company isn't interested in how many jobs it creates; its main concern is its profitability. The SG, though, will be celebrating 15 more people off the dole and into work, as well as a large-scale facility paying rates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marinello59 View Post
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    According to the articles you have linked to this company investment is due to their confidence in the UK Governments post Brexit industrial strategy. Well done to Nicola and the SNP.
    They've been investing in Montrose and Irvine for a number of years. Prior to Brexit even coming to fruition, all with the help of the Scottish Government.

    Well done to Nicola and the SNP...INDEED.

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/busine...e_to_Scotland/

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...ntral-25048627

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronaldo7 View Post
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    They've been investing in Montrose and Irvine for a number of years. Prior to Brexit even coming to fruition, all with the help of the Scottish Government.

    Well done to Nicola and the SNP...INDEED.

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/busine...e_to_Scotland/

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...ntral-25048627
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    Quote Originally Posted by marinello59 View Post
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    Your utter unquestioning devotion to your party is a delight to observe.
    Damn those pesky facts again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronaldo7 View Post
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    Damn those pesky facts again.
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