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    I've seen a few posts on social media claiming that the police were trying to stop people flying saltires on the bridge today. Reeks of fake news.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg View Post
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    I've seen a few posts on social media claiming that the police were trying to stop people flying saltires on the bridge today. Reeks of fake news.
    It wasn't true.. It really doesn't help us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marinello59 View Post
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    It wasn't true.. It really doesn't help us.
    These bams believe they're helping the case for independence but in reality they damage it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg View Post
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    I've seen a few posts on social media claiming that the police were trying to stop people flying saltires on the bridge today. Reeks of fake news.
    I've posted on the Queensferry crossing thread saying the Ambassadors did a fantastic job, and they did. We did encounter one over eager one asking how my 10yr old nephew got his flag through security, as they'd been told, no flags were allowed. It was keeping him warm was the reply. We walked another 50 yards towards the bus, and another ambassador mentioned how great it was to see the flag, and the Hibs badges.

    I wonder if we'll see any flags on any of the bridges today?

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    Nice to see Fundee, and the weege get the 1500 jobs today. Well done the Scottish Government.

    https://t.co/85Q5uEfl9g

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronaldo7 View Post
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    Nice to see Fundee, and the weege get the 1500 jobs today. Well done the Scottish Government.

    https://t.co/85Q5uEfl9g
    Well done to Dundee who put up a good case to get the jobs there. And to Glasgow, that sees even more Government jobs located in the central belt.
    It's no surprise that when it comes to dishing out these jobs Aberdeen missed out again. Sixty thousand jobs have gone in the offshore industry, it would have been a welcome boost for the area.. The SNP are happy to take jobs away from the City as they centralise our emergency services in the name of cost saving though.(Isn't that called austerity when the Tories do it?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by marinello59 View Post
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    Well done to Dundee who put up a good case to get the jobs there. And to Glasgow, that sees even more Government jobs located in the central belt.
    It's no surprise that when it comes to dishing out these jobs Aberdeen missed out again. Sixty thousand jobs have gone in the offshore industry, it would have been a welcome boost for the area.. The SNP are happy to take jobs away from the City as they centralise our emergency services in the name of cost saving though.(Isn't that called austerity when the Tories do it?)
    We were told the UK government were looking after the oil industry with their broad shoulders, and the 200Billion bonanza. I'm sure they'll come up with it sometime, just like the renewables benefits.

    I'm sure Aberdeen just got a city deal didn't they, can't have it all you know. Other jobs are being spread around Scotland, courtesy of the SG.

    Meantime, we've got to get on and get those people trained and ready to go in the two successful cities.

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    Can any of the 1500 people teach maths?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    Can any of the 1500 people teach maths?
    We're importing Maths teachers from England.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    Can any of the 1500 people teach maths?
    If only they could.
    Sturgeon did say she should be judged on education. Apart from some of her more slavishly devoted followers I doubt that anybody will be giving her pass marks. Even John Swinney says they must do better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marinello59 View Post
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    If only they could.
    Sturgeon did say she should be judged on education. Apart from some of her more slavishly devoted followers I doubt that anybody will be giving her pass marks. Even John Swinney says they must do better.
    The FM said exactly the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronaldo7 View Post
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    The FM said exactly the same.
    Which is a sorry admission to be making after ten years in power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marinello59 View Post
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    Which is a sorry admission to be making after ten years in power.
    We can always do better. Just look at Hibs, and they've been going since 1875

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    Quote Originally Posted by marinello59 View Post
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    Which is a sorry admission to be making after ten years in power.

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    New school curriculum required and this time say to the teachers "tell us what you want and we'll provide it".

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    I see things aren't all rosie in education elsewhere in the UK.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-41388079
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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Fleece View Post
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    I see things aren't all rosie in education elsewhere in the UK.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-41388079
    I'm not so sure that has anything to do with the SNP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marinello59 View Post
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    I'm not so sure that has anything to do with the SNP.
    Of course it isn't smarty I just thought it worth pointing out that the state of Edumacation is also poor in other parts of the UK
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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Fleece View Post
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    Of course it isn't smarty I just thought it worth pointing out that the state of Edumacation is also poor in other parts of the UK
    Especially spelling.

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    I'm not so sure that has anything to do with the SNP.
    Nonsense. Clearly Sturgeon's fault. Divisive division of dividers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Fleece View Post
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    Of course it isn't smarty I just thought it worth pointing out that the state of Edumacation is also poor in other parts of the UK
    It doesn't tell you anything about the state of education apart from some nominal budgets..

    The Nat 5 / Nat 4 thing up here still seems like a total mess and kids are definitely suffering with the pressures of trying to get into Nat 5 classes.

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    The publicly owned, not for profit, energy company, announced for Scotland at the SNP conference today. Thoughts?

    Oh, and Mhari was not too please with Jezza's performance recently.

    https://twitter.com/theipaper/status/917790396058652677

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronaldo7 View Post
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    The publicly owned, not for profit, energy company, announced for Scotland at the SNP conference today. Thoughts?

    Oh, and Mhari was not too please with Jezza's performance recently.

    https://twitter.com/theipaper/status/917790396058652677
    I think it's interesting and it chimes with the public mood. There you go, I've said something reasonably complimentary about the SNP .

    It's a very complex dynamic though - if we want a sustainable method of supplying energy that is environmentally friendly, then that will cost more, at least to start with. At the moment we seem to subsidise the positive rather than taxing the negative. That needs to change. It's probably fair to say that SG is limited in that it can only intervene at point of use, as this proposal lays out. The costs of nationalising production or indeed the whole market would be prohibitive and likely breach EU law.

    The thinking on this seems to mirror Ed Miliband's from five or so years ago - tackling predatory capitalism etc. I think EM had the right ideas, ideas that the majority probably agree with, and maybe more so in Scotland and maybe more so now than then. He was hobbled by presentation and a genuinely hostile media though.

    So at the moment it's a guarded welcome from me. Hopefully it is managed in a way that allows it to flourish.

    I'm also looking forward to Rye Sloan's view on creating a big quango
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye View Post
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    I think it's interesting and it chimes with the public mood. There you go, I've said something reasonably complimentary about the SNP .

    It's a very complex dynamic though - if we want a sustainable method of supplying energy that is environmentally friendly, then that will cost more, at least to start with. At the moment we seem to subsidise the positive rather than taxing the negative. That needs to change. It's probably fair to say that SG is limited in that it can only intervene at point of use, as this proposal lays out. The costs of nationalising production or indeed the whole market would be prohibitive and likely breach EU law.

    The thinking on this seems to mirror Ed Miliband's from five or so years ago - tackling predatory capitalism etc. I think EM had the right ideas, ideas that the majority probably agree with, and maybe more so in Scotland and maybe more so now than then. He was hobbled by presentation and a genuinely hostile media though.

    So at the moment it's a guarded welcome from me. Hopefully it is managed in a way that allows it to flourish.

    I'm also looking forward to Rye Sloan's view on creating a big quango
    Oh I'm here!

    I've been too busy working to see the details so I'll hold my judgement until it's more than just a policy announcement...although yeah as you can imagine I wasn't instantly bowled over by the prospect of the SG going into the energy business, esp. at a time where traditional utilities and energy generators are facing such massive challenges to their business models across the globe....

    But I will wait for the detail of the proposal and judge it then (honest guv. )

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyeSloan View Post
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    Oh I'm here!

    I've been too busy working to see the details so I'll hold my judgement until it's more than just a policy announcement...although yeah as you can imagine I wasn't instantly bowled over by the prospect of the SG going into the energy business, esp. at a time where traditional utilities and energy generators are facing such massive challenges to their business models across the globe....

    But I will wait for the detail of the proposal and judge it then (honest guv. )
    Looking forward to your views when you see the details. We see things from slightly different perspectives but I have a lot of respect for your arguments
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye View Post
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    Looking forward to your views when you see the details. We see things from slightly different perspectives but I have a lot of respect for your arguments
    Likewise

    From what I saw from the rest of the announcements I'm also very interested in how the SG is going to pay for it all....there seems to be no end to the largesse so the tax proposals will be the key.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyeSloan View Post
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    Likewise

    From what I saw from the rest of the announcements I'm also very interested in how the SG is going to pay for it all....there seems to be no end to the largesse so the tax proposals will be the key.
    This, or does the proposed public sector pay rise mean they reduce the staffing establishment to allow the salary hike.

    A bit more transparency about costings would be welcome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye View Post
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    This, or does the proposed public sector pay rise mean they reduce the staffing establishment to allow the salary hike.

    A bit more transparency about costings would be welcome.
    Can't imagine the SG wanting to be seen to cut numbers. It been one of the favourite games in Scotland to judge our public services by total spent (more is good) and total people (more is good and above target even better) so we shall see...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyeSloan View Post
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    Can't imagine the SG wanting to be seen to cut numbers. It been one of the favourite games in Scotland to judge our public services by total spent (more is good) and total people (more is good and above target even better) so we shall see...
    Completely agree

    The increased numbers in NHS staffing don't equate to better performance on waiting times or delayed discharge.

    There's a problem for SG in squaring the circle. By my count there's at least a 1bn increase committed there (happy to be corrected).

    That's only going to be met by taxation, reducing the public sector wage budget or reducing the settlement to local authorities.

    My bet would be that local authorities are expected to swallow it. The SNP has form for it and with the shift in the make-up after the last local elections, they have more incentive.

    The most vulnerable people in our society are the ones who tend to depend most on local authority services. I would be fearing for them tonight.
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    Completely agree

    The increased numbers in NHS staffing don't equate to better performance on waiting times or delayed discharge.

    There's a problem for SG in squaring the circle. By my count there's at least a 1bn increase committed there (happy to be corrected).

    That's only going to be met by taxation, reducing the public sector wage budget or reducing the settlement to local authorities.

    My bet would be that local authorities are expected to swallow it. The SNP has form for it and with the shift in the make-up after the last local elections, they have more incentive.

    The most vulnerable people in our society are the ones who tend to depend most on local authority services. I would be fearing for them tonight.
    Phew - normal service resumed.

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